All Men Are NOT Created Equal...Another Sicko (Ed Meese) Advising WH

[kpete]

Former Attorney General Ed Meese is interviewed in the latest issue of GQ--and not for his sartorial splendor. This is as depressing a statement on American liberty and justice as anything I have read these last six years.http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/011190.php

Here are some highlights from the Q&A:


Jefferson wrote, "All men are created equal," not "all Americans."
He said that men are "endowed by their Creator" with these rights, not endowed by "the Constitution."

MEESE: But that doesn't have to do with enemy soldiers.


No surprise then that Meese is hard to nail down on whether waterboarding is torture.

It seems like some of these techniques, like waterboarding, are a long way from humane.

MEESE: Well, again, I have a great deal of confidence that the administration would not engage in torture.


Would you call that torture?

MEESE: I don't know. I don't know about waterboarding.


It's putting a wet rag over someone's mouth and making them think that they're going to drown.

MEESE: Yeah, I don't know. As I said, I don't know enough about it to give a firm determination.


That doesn't necessarily sound like torture to you?

MEESE: I don't know whether they're doing that.


And if they are?
MEESE: I don't know, because I don't know enough about it.


I'm asking, if that is what they're doing, does that sound like torture?

MEESE: Well, I'd have to find out how long they do it and whether it does create the impression of drowning. I've never heard of this using a washcloth in their mouth before.


http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_5196&pageNum=4

[Cleita]

1. For the sake of argument, let's say he's right.

I would then postulate that he be sent back to the monkey house with the rest of them.

[LoZoccolo]

2. Ban porn and legalize torture.

Good thing he's got his priorities straight.

[Mythsaje]

3. I hates that Meeses to pieces...

I remember him from his first round.

Well-heeled scum. Like the rest of his ilk.

[JeffR]

6. Meeses to pieces?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mythsaje]

10. Did I just date myself, Jeff?

:D

[JeffR]

11. Maybe we both did

It's a great line.:D

[Mythsaje]

12. I used to use it back in the day...

I was just a teenager, but I paid attention.

And that name made it irresistable.

[JeffR]

13. You may just have sent some people to the googles for background

:)

[Mythsaje]

15. Possible...

Hey, have you seen my latest? Short, but intriguing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2752677&mesg_id=2752677

[JeffR]

16. Yes, and I think the idea has a lot of merit

:toast:

[Lexingtonian]

4. let's give him a good waterboarding

Maybe that'll help him make up his mind.

For some reason it is considered torture in United States v Sawada, a postwar case in which a Mr. Sawada waterboarded a pilot captured after the Doolittle raid on Tokyo.

[acmejack]

5. Iran/Contra Ed is as big a low life as there is.

Attorney General Edwin Meese III became directly involved in the Reagan Administration's secret plan to sell weapons to Iran in January 1986, when he was asked for a legal opinion to support the plan.1 When the secret arms sales became exposed in November 1986, raising questions of legality and prompting congressional and public scrutiny, Meese became the point man for the Reagan Administration's effort, in Meese's words, ``to limit the damage.''

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_31.htm

[evlbstrd]

7. To bring back a phrase that was popular back when he was AG ...

Meese is a pig.

[Spirochete]

8. Geez! What rock

did that slimeball crawl out from under? Thought I'd heard the last of him.

[Crunchy Frog]

9. Somebody should waterboard Meese

so that he can make an informed judgement as to whether or not it constitutes torture.

[Generic Other]

14. He spent his whole time as AG oogling porn!

Idiot.