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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:03 PM
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Bush’s Chernobyl Economy; hard times are on the way
By Mike Whitney

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15545.htm

In the next few months, a financial crisis will arise somewhere in the world which will jolt the American economy and trigger a swift and precipitous decline in the value of the dollar This is not speculation; it will happen and there is nothing that the Bush administration can do to stop it.All of the traditional supports for the dollar have been removed by the shrinking economy, a massive $800 billion account deficit, dramatic increases in the money supply, and the reckless manipulation of interest rates.

Now, the noose is tightening. Our foreign trade partners can see that we are drowning in red ink and are refusing to buy back our debt in the form of US Treasuries. This is a death sentence for the dollar. It means that in a matter of months the once-mighty greenback will crash through the floor and free-fall through open space.

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There is nothing accidental about the crisis we'll soon be facing. Officials at the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury are fully aware of the devastating effects of massive trade deficits, increasing the money supply, and self-serving interest rates manipulations. They have set the country on the path to ruin as part of a broader scheme for remaking the global-system according to well-known precedents. In truth, the plan to modify the present system has a long history; going back to the 1980s when many of the same actors in government today were in positions of power in the Reagan administration. For the last 6 years they have been patching together their strategy; producing record deficits, unfunded tax cuts, mammoth government expansion, and doubling the money supply.Did Greenspan know that by lowering interest rates in 2001 to 1.5% that he would sluice trillions of dollars into the real estate market producing the largest equity bubble in history? And, if he didn't know, then how is it that the Fed provides the statistics which state precisely how large the housing bubble really is?Didn’t Greenspan read the charts and graphs put out by his own organization?And why did Greenspan support the shaky “no down payment”, “interest-only” loans and ARMs which allowed “high-risk” people to qualify for mortgages when the Fed knew, according to their own figures, that when interest rates went up, foreclosures would skyrocket?Of course he knew; they all knew. How could they NOT know? They produce the facts and figures themselves! It’s all part of a madcap scheme to shift wealth to the top 1% and drive a wooden stake into the heart of the middle class. When Greenspan saw that doomsday was approaching, he got “cold feet” and bailed out. Now the scholarly Bernancke is left to supervise the economic meltdown and face the public scorn.

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The country is now facing a Chernobyl-type meltdown and the prospects for changing direction appear to be minimal. The foundation blocks for sound economic growth and prosperity have been replaced by a misguided faith in military adventurism and police state repression. The results are plain to see.We are now more vulnerable to a seismic economic event than anytime since the Great Depression. The corporatists and the money-lenders have absconded with the nation’s wealth; gutting the manufacturing sector, creating enormous equity bubbles, and raffling off our vital industries to foreign investors. At the same time, the Bush administration has sown dragons-teeth around the world leaving the US with precious few friends to throw us a lifeline when ship starts taking on water.

Hard times are on the way; only this time it’ll be detention centers instead of soup kitchens.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:08 PM
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1. I posted this about a day ago!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:12 PM
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2. Bears Reposting until people pay attention
The way it's going attention is the ONLY thing

we'll be able to pay
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:15 PM
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3. see if this works, heres my post, maybe
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:16 PM
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4. Hey, wow, I just learned how to do that!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:22 PM
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6. 1000+ posts and you just figured that out ? n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:21 PM
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5. Iranian bourse.
'Nuff said.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 05:55 PM
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11. .
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:25 PM
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7. Everyone needs to pay attention to this! Recommend Please! eom
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:12 AM
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26. Let me say this again: Greenspan is a name which will live in infamy for selling
his soul and selling out social security and the middle class to fund large tax cuts for that 1-or-so% who already owned/controlled 90+% of the wealth. :mad:
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:51 PM
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8. Well, hate to be a kill-joy, BUT
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 04:13 PM by Dangerously Amused



...this is exactly what has been on my mind. Hooray, we won!!! Uh... we won what, exactly?


A losing war. Two of them, actually.

Unprecedented international hostility.

A record deficit.

A plethora of new laws which sell out the most vulnerable members of our society while rewarding greed and corruption.

An economy on the brink of The Big Flush.

Our treasury raped and billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars snuggled securely in the offshore accounts of the Halliburton and Carlyle mafiosos and a certain La Roche stockholder...

...the list goes on and on.


Now we are left to clean up their enormous stinking shitpile and we will be blamed - most likely in the polls - for any of it still remaining in two years. And realistically... is two years enough time to turn the economy around, much less remedy all the other stuff? Um... no. Not even close.




You know what? I'm not so sure we won as much as they bailed. I'm not so sure this isn't a case of Republican's crocodile tears hiding their big ol' wolf grin.


Anybody know how the exit polls correlated with the vote totals this year as compared to the past few elections? That would be telling, now wouldn't it?



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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:57 PM
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9. "I'm not so sure we won as much as they bailed."
You got a real point there buddy
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:39 PM
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13. google truthisall. He has figured it all out with charts etc..
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:18 AM
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14. Thanks for the tip. Will do.



:)



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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:33 AM
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18. Exit polls correlated pretty well--except for VA and MT n/t
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:24 AM
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25. The horse race is over
and now we get to clean the stables.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:57 PM
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29. this thread may interest you
TRUTHISALL: The 2006 FINAL National Exit Poll does NOT compute - again!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x458020
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:16 PM
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30. Thank you, I bookmarked it.



Yeah, thay have to make it look close, even when they lose. That way it's an easier sell when they "win."


That and we can't burst George's fantasyland bubble wherein the people really do like him and support Cheney's George's piracy for profit compassionate conservative agenda.




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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:33 PM
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10. .
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 06:15 PM
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12. Yeah, I'll give it a kick. It's important info. Let's keep it out there.




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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:21 AM
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15. K&R
More people need to read this!:kick:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 12:58 AM
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16. This is one scary shit...
People need to read this and be prepare.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:08 AM
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17. Guess it is greater than impeachment.
A good reason to buy real estate in Paraguay.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:37 AM
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19. "Foreclosures Up 17% in Third Quarter (up 43% from 2005)"
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:13 AM
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20. Hard times are on the way; only this time it’ll be detention centers instead of soup kitchens.
Edited on Sat Nov-11-06 02:13 AM by SlavesandBulldozers
detention centers instead of soup kitchens? that's a little dramatic. how come the big round-up is always "about" to happen? in any event im not too concerned because i wont be rounded up, nor will i allow my neighbors to be.

"hard times ON THE WAY?" that's what gave me the biggest laugh. i don't know where anybody else is but these last couple years haven't exactly been a walk in the park. and ultimately because of what? rising interest rates on homes? i guess im just out of the loop, i don't get what i should be panicking and pulling my hair out, perhaps i've just been panicking and pulling my hair out over financial straits for so long i don't realize what can cause panic in others.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 02:42 AM
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21. or what happens when the US gov is bankrupt
see, we got all those debts out there, and we don't make anything anymore to pay them off... guess we will be up *beep* creek when the debt collectors come calling

or maybe we will have to export people... like Ireland used to do
(could we send the religious whackos and NeoCons out first???)
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 03:27 AM
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22. Not sure *how* to prepare
Sell stuff and buy gold I guess.

I've been thinking we have received a white elephant with this win too. But we have to do it again. The choice is utter, hopeless ruin if Republicans continue.
Speaking of white elephants - Thailand's PM was ousted in an almost cooperative manner. He seemed to be allowed to send money out and fly high end valuables out at the same time, and even after!

So where's Cheney?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 06:01 AM
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23. Detention Centers? Prior to Nov. 7th - I would have agreed, now I'll say it will be soup kitchens
:hi:

Now that we have a Democratic Senate and House, I don't see that ever being allowed to happen.

That said though, Bush and the GOP have screwed our country and our economy so badly with their out of control spending, budget deficit, trade deficit etc....

Yes, I think hard times are coming and we will all be paying the price. The only good news is that the demcratic house will start being a little more in control of the spending and spending it wisely. But they and us have been left such a mess from the last 6 years that it will be difficult to fix.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:21 AM
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24. The detention ctrs will be full:
of complicit Repub elected officials from top to bottom, HAL employees, Diebold employees, etc.

The confiscation of ilegal gains will help, too.

We need an audit-corps to get our money back. We're talking TRILLIONS, here, people.

Also, read this & freak out:

http://www.senate.gov/~levin/newsroom/supporting/2006/PSI.taxhavenabuses.080106.pdf

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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:00 AM
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27. They've been saying it since early 1990s at least
There have been people - some of them economists, but most just amateur commentators - predicting an imminent collapse of the banking system, fall of the dollar, at least since early 1990s. Look up David Emory, for example. 9-11 tinfoil hatters (such as myself) will be familiar with Michael Ruppert's ruminations on peak oil and the supposed coming crisis. His is one of the most cogent, coherent stories. It seems to make sense, and I have no information to refute it. Except that he was making a living out of this peculiar brand of fearmongering - including paid investment advice - until he closed shop and moved to Venezuela two months ago or so.

And then you have people like Greg Palast who claim Peak Oil is a hoax and that he has documents to prove it. I trust Greg Palast more than I trust Michael Ruppert, but Ruppert makes more *sense* than Palast this time.

It's all about what you choose to believe will happen. I've been reading a lot to get informed, and the net result is, I know nothing. I have to be agnostic, because there are contradictory claims we have absolutely no way of verifying. I can chooser to believe Michael Ruppert or I can choose to believe Greg Palast, or I can choose the believe Mike Whitney in this case, but it's not knowledge - it's belief, no different than religion. We simply do not have facts that are both incontrovertible and unambiguous.

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 01:03 PM
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28. .
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