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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:33 PM Original message |
I think it is somehow a little shameful that we seem to be gloating over Haggard |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think he's gay. |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
116. It's about the hypocracy |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. shameful? you know what's shameful? Hypocritical pompous pius |
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KSU Wildcat (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.... |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. welcome to DU KSU Wildcat! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
99. Were you as willling to be so charitable with accusations |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
118. Ive never gotten cranked up then went out and sucked dick... |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. good for you-- I am neither christian nor gay... |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. His sex life is NOT his own business. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I disagree-- you either believe in the right to privacy or you don't... |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Don't go there. I am not "being like them". |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. you're justifying using his sexual orientation against him... |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. What other hypocrisies get a pass from you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Oh, great. Now I'm a gay-basher. |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. So how often should they be allowed to smear us |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. so you would be just like them... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #36 |
64. I agree it is really easy to slip into the "tu quoque" |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:16 AM Response to Reply #36 |
83. You cast my position anyway you wish |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 10:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. Incorrect. I believe in a right to privacy from government intrusion. I do not, |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. I'm sure you are right... but I've seen the clips of Haggard in |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
85. It certainly is not his own business |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh really - Well what about all of the lives, particularly young |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
121. they have damaged the country too |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. As NYT ethics columnist Randy Cohen said on CNN re: Foley... |
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BurgherHoldtheLies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. "If you can't delight in the downfall of a hypocrite, you have no zest for life" |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. "The fellowship could fall apart over this..." |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Amen. |
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Burried News (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Leaders who betray a trust need to be punished. |
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Liberal Jesus Freak (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. I sort of know what you mean. |
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ldf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
130. it IS too bad that "christian" has become as derogatory |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. Its a chance to right some incredible wrongs |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. Why would people walking away from a church be a bad thing? |
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Oleladylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. The results of his actions could affect many but shouldn't be |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Perhaps |
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Oleladylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That's interesting..n/t |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Built on a faulty foundation |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
106. If that's the case with the New Lifers, then so be it. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. Do unto others. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. I have nothing but contempt |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Amen. eom |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Can't we gloat just for a little while? |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. What about the total hypocrisy of a faux "Christian" church... |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. Tired of their hypocrisy, accusations, charges of us being traitors. "Kind" is not the issue here. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Wow. Has Haggard done all this??? |
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mntleo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
72. He Has Led that Crap, Yes |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Cat Please Post This As A Thread It Is A Beautiful Summation |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
109. You couldn't be more accurate. Breathtakingly focused. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. i don't care if he's straight, gay or bi, it's about hypocrisy. He cheated on |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. He preaches bigotry and his "flock" and faithfools follow him. Enough said. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Oh please. |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'll worry about being seen as kinder |
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William Bloode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. I've had similar feelings. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
37. I gloat with gusto. |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. If it wasn't for their hypocrisy, it wouldn't be such a big deal |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. he lacks the integrity to teach followers, people that leave themselves |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. I am all out of "kind" for hypocrisy this venomous and on this scale |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. can you give me evidence of any of your four points? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Are you in a conservative evangelical church? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Hold it Youmade those accusations against Haggard |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. Actually it was another poster and I jumped into |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. Well, for starters, try this from another post: |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. This piece paints a less authoritarian brand of evangelicals |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
124. WTF? Bono is hanging out w/ Haggard? |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Damn Hatrack I Think You Took The Perk Out Of Perky With That |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
110. He rejoices in bloodshed, revels in materialism. Just what you'd look for |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
123. OK - I formally renounce my post about feeling sorry for him in |
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april (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. oh what a tangled web we weave when we |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
46. If I could gloat hard enough to break my ribcage he'd deserve it |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #46 |
101. You got that right Mondo. |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
47. It's not his homosexuality that's being outed - it's his hypocrisy. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Of course you are right...but again it is nothing to gloat over. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
49. It's not a little shameful...It's VERY shameful. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. If the BushCo can gloat over Kerry's slip....calling it a gift to the PUBs |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
53. Do not worship false prophets. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. ok I will bite |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. Yeah, I feel just terrible. |
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LordLovesAWorkingMan (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. I had to do a lot of research just to figure out who the hell he is |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. As a person who was subjected... |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. this guy made millions preaching hate against people just like himself |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Millions? |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Do the math |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Oh you are talking NAE not his flock |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Uh....as President of the NAE...awww forgit it. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Yeah ok what is his salary? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. I assume |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
62. Uh...it's hypocrisy. It's not about being gay or not |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
65. Try walking in a gay or lesbian American's shoes |
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specimenfred1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
66. Awl, BooHoo |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Now wait a minute |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. this isn't gloating, its justice |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Now wait a minute |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
115. I guess I'm not nice. I'm good, but not nice. n/t |
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Red Right and BLUE (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
67. That's noble. Not me. nt |
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greenbriar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
73. that is exactly the kind of bullshit that gets us in trouble... |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
84. AMEN, My Friend |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. oh for the love of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-02-06 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
82. I have NO pity for that grifting cocksucker... |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 08:01 AM Response to Reply #82 |
90. I Love You Even More..... "Grifting Cocksucker"... ROFLMAO |
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TheFarseer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
87. I don't care if he's gay |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
89. "I just wish DUers were a little kinder . . ." |
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Lefty-Taylor (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #89 |
125. Yep. |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
91. "it's just my own christian mercy showing through here" |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #91 |
111. You've got it! Virtue doesn't announce itself. It simply IS, with or without |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
92. We need to return the GOP's kind of "Kindness" in kind! |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
94. It's just my own GAY mercy showing through here, but I'll reserve my |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
95. Normally I'd agree with you but.... |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
96. You gotta be kidding |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
97. Thank the gods... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
98. What does the bible say about hypocrites? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. I offered not one scintilla of defense |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-03-06 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
100. Yeah, I'll weep terribly... |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
102. Have you read the Harper's article about how he 'grew' his church? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
104. Haggard deserves intervention not kindness at this point |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. I am fine with that too. |
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BigMcLargehuge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
107. Maybe "his flock" will be a little smarter after this. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
108. On this one, it's you, but not me. Sorry. This guy is the reason |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
112. He made his bed. Let him sleep in it. |
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Riddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
113. I don't feel the least bit shameful or sorry, only elated! |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
114. IMO the only ones deserving sympathy are his children. n/t |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
117. Well I'm shameless |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
119. OH BULLSHIT |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
120. This is why people say liberals don't know how to fight. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
122. His flock will be better off as a result of this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
126. Maybe you need to see this video...the utter hypocrisy. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
127. Shameful to be happy over the outing of another hypocritical |
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MODemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
128. You think we're shameful; look what the republicans did to Kerry |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-04-06 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
129. I sincerely hope the fellowship falls apart. I hope it crumbles into a thousand |
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