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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:54 PM
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Hillary is Disgusting: Joins Republican Phoney Spin by call for "Apology"

It is hard to imagine something more harmfull to the Democrats than
a Leader of the party bolstering the Republicans phony
"Kerry was attacking the troops" campaign.

She is smart enough to know what they are doing and should be
knocking it down and showing how they are using the "troops"
for their political ploy.

I am really disgusted. I have met Bill Clinton. He is a great guy.
I am sorry he has to be associated with this self-serving manipulation
by his wife.

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:55 PM
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1. She should apologize for asking for an apology! n/t
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:55 PM
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2. link please?
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:10 PM
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22. No link: Cable Networks "Kerry comment on troops Inappropriate" etc.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:16 PM
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29. Yes, BUT, did some network actually report that Hillary ACTUALLY said this? -eom
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:22 PM
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56. Exactly!!! I haven't seen a quote from Hillary Clinton
and until I do, with full context including who asked the question and exactly what was asked, I'm not ready to criticize.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:18 PM
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31. The media can be CREATING this lie just like they did for WH's lie about Kerry.
Proof is always needed with corpmedia.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:34 PM
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62. link here "Sen. Clinton visits Kingston, says Kerry should apologize"
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:37 PM
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63. But the story doesn't actually support the headline
Much like some DU threads
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:55 PM
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3. Shit...and she happens to be my actual Senator, too.
:evilfrown:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:56 PM
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4. Before I jumb, I would like to see a link also. Thank you! n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:57 PM
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5. Is there a link or did she call you in person?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:59 PM
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11. Bwahahahahaha!! My thoughts EXACTLY!
The waft of concern is simply overWHELMING!!!! From a disabled user profile, no less!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:57 PM
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6. Hillary goes with the flow
Absolutely no backbone whatsoever. She's way too entrenched in D.C. to be a real maverick.

She tries way too hard to please, and I highly doubt she'll ever be the '08 nominee. Then again, I've seen other lapses in voter judgement.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:58 PM
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7. Typical DLC Dem.
Simply allow the GOP to define you.

I don't care if she does get the 2008 nomination. I won't vote for her now. I am FED UP with Democrats who ALLOW the GOP to twist and manipulate their intentions. Instead of fighting back and sticking together, they just stand there and say, "Yes, they're right. We're sorry."

:grr: :grr: :grr:

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:06 PM
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18. Exactly!
Their goal is to pull the party farther to the right.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:30 PM
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42. Have you seen a link ?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:42 PM
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49.  emulatorloo posted (below) that Hillary's office said she never asked for an apology.
As I said in response to that, I'm glad to hear it. But the sad part is that I had no trouble believing it because of the history with things like this. :-( So many Dems have tried ridiculously hard in the past to please the GOP and their base, even when the GOP was lying about them. Remember Dick Durbin?

I was wrong about Hillary on this issue and I apologize for that. However, Democrats in general are going to have to show a spine far more often before my gut reaction is to NOT believe things likes this. I hate it that I feel that way ... but they've rolled over too many times. They need to start standing together and smacking down the GOP smear machine EVERY TIME something like this happens.

Bill Clinton stepped up to plate. John Kerry loaded up the bases. Now it's time for the rest of the Dems to get up and hit it out of the park! :-)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:22 PM
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54. No, it's typical DU post and run bullshit.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:33 PM
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61. What are you talking about? I didn't post and run
:shrug:

I was wrong about her and I acknowledge that in two other posts in this thread.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:58 PM
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8. She is the poster child.....
for a dem without a spine!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:58 PM
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9. Link, please?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:04 PM
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16. Where and when did she say this?
Had news on all a.m. and haven't heard that one??
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:15 PM
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26. Should show up on CNN, Fox, and MSNMC sites in next hours.

They aren't reporting exact words but jist is that she
treats Kerry statement as insult on troops.

Hope it is clarified.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:36 PM
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47. Link please
and if you could enable profile.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 12:59 PM
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10. Yet another reason why I won't support her for Prez in '08.
Seriously, I will vote Green before I vote for this former Goldwater Rethug. Did you know she supported Goldwater in 1964?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:05 PM
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17. She Was Seventeen (LOL)
By the way I'm not a fan of her's either...
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:22 PM
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36. Yes, but it does tend to show why she's DLC.
Nonetheless, I am glad I hear you don't support her, either. We need to have an anti-war consensus candidate in '08, eh?
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:00 PM
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12. She needs to just STFU and leave the situation ALONE
This is ridiculous. Once again, Shillary plays into the hands of hysterical wingnuts and their media.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:32 PM
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45. Why don't you ask for a link before spouting off? Or does it matter?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:02 PM
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13. I Prefer Verification By Link.... but IF She Has Made These Comments
all I have to say is "lady, it's just one more nail in YOUR coffin!" I haven't been one of her supporters, once was... but if this is true, THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!

Why don't you just give John McCain a big wet one and get it over with!!

I'll take it back if this proves to be untrue... but I will never support her! If anyone here thinks KERRY made a mistake, this one will TRUMP ALL!!!


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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:02 PM
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14. Proof? Link? I'm holding fire until I see it in print. Thanks! -eom
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:09 PM
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20. Breaking Report: MSNBC, various including O'Donnel
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:12 PM
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24. That's funny, it's NOWHERE on their website. -eom
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:03 PM
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15. awful lot of threads recently without supporting links. boo.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:07 PM
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19. Yup - sure seems fishy to me...... -eom
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:09 PM
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21. I'm no fan of Hillary
but you do need to provide a link as to where you read or heard this.

And can I ask you a question? Why do you chose to disable your user profile? I notice quite a few people do that and was just wondering what the reasoning was. At least having your state and when you joined is helpful.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:12 PM
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23. Her office says NO ShE DID NOT SAY THAT --
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:15 PM
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27. Thanks ... I'm glad to hear it.
The sad part is that I had no trouble believing it because so many Dems try ridiculously hard to please the GOP and their base, even when the GOP is lying about them.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:13 PM
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25. Until there is a link to actual quotes from her...I say bullshit.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:16 PM
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28. You're disseminating a bogus story
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:17 PM
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30. It is all over the Networks, So she may want to clarify -- She is being spun
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:18 PM
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32. Seems like we're being NETVOCATED again!
Why is there no link to a video where Hillary makes this statement?
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:19 PM
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33. I would not be a bit surprised if she did
BUT I called her NYC office because I can't get through to the DC office - and they are not aware of her asking Kerry to apologize - so I'll wait for a link too.....
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:20 PM
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34. I HONESTLY HOPE HILLARY COME OUT TO CLARIFY -- Networks are
misreporting that she criticizing Kerry for
"Inappropriate" comments.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:24 PM
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40. Hillary doesn't need to do a goddamn thing. But there are those who would LOVE to set her up for a
comment, aren't there?

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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:29 PM
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41. The Cable Nets are reporting "Harold Ford, Hillary Clinton" criticising Kerry
for innapropriate statements.

HRC can release a statement correcting this before is spreads.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:31 PM
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44. NOPE - The cable nets need to issue a RETRACTION, that's how it works. -eom
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:34 PM
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46. So far, you seem to be the only one spreading it.
:eyes:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:23 PM
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57. Just like manure.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:36 PM
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48. OR, you could stop spreading it!
Instead of swallowing it hook, LIE, and sinker!
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:21 PM
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35. No offense- but I hit "alert" due to you not having a link.
I suggest others do so as well.

This accusation is too serious to not have a link.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:22 PM
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37. Her office denied this
Can we please focus on the fugging elections. Some people here are doing exactly what the Rethugs want. Fugg!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:24 PM
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38. STOP SPREADING REPUKE LIES!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:24 PM
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39. this is disgusting
I'm certain she's denied the report

Where's the effort to take care with our party? Leave the bashing of Democrats to the opposition.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 01:30 PM
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43. MORE LIES! LIES LIES LIES LIES.
Who's manipulating? YOU!
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:13 PM
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50. Just walked in again on MSNBC coverage, C. Brown cites Clinton
on campaign trail criticizing Kerry.

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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:17 PM
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51. STILL nowhere on their website! -eom
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:19 PM
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52. Whatever Dems need to do to make this go away ASAP
... is fine by me. This isn't about Kerry. This is about an election next week. The Rs were successful in changing the subject and we need to change it back ... soon.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:20 PM
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53. Gotta link to back up this bullshit?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:22 PM
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55. It Figures.
With her hubby hobb-knobbin' with Poppy an' all. :eyes: Something stinks about that friendship.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:23 PM
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58. Something stinks about this "story"
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:24 PM
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59. IMO, no more Dynastic Families in the WH - that includes both the
CLINTON as well as the BUSH families. No more! :puke:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:24 PM
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60. Politics as usual.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, and don't forget blah.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:37 PM
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64. Kiss my ass, Mrs. Clinton.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:40 PM
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65. I'm going to lock this.
Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory. Please use good judgment when starting threads; inflammatory rhetoric does not normally lead to productive discussion.

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