So....How are things in Massachusetts? Society crumble yet?

[boolean]

It's been a couple of years since gays have been allowed to marry in Massachusetts. Anyone here from Massachusetts? Tell us how bad things have gotten. I'd like to know. By removing one of the major pillars of society, I assume breakdown, if it has not yet occurred, must be in its initial stages.

Have deviant homosexuals begun trolling the streets at night yet?

How many of you have 2 year old sons that show an interest in ballet and barbie dolls?

Where can I go to get some public sex? I assume laws must have been passed by now to limit when and/or where people are allowed to have casual, meaningless sex outside. I just want to know the location and time.

Are the children so confused by what they're seeing that they can't decide whether to sit or stand while using the potty?

Has everyone contracted HIV yet, or is it still too early to tell?


Come on, Massachusetts. Give me a status report.

[papau]

1. Gay divorces seem down - or at least we do not hear about them like we did

about the first divorce that was filed for last year.

Other than that, it sems to be, as it should be, a topic that just does not make the news, beyond wedding photos.

[TechBear_Seattle]

2. The real question is...

Is the divorce rate in Mass. experienced a significantly higher increase than the rest of the country? Is there any evidence that spousal abuse has become more common? Has there been an explosion of child abuse claims?

In other words, has equal marriage destroyed "traditional" marriage like the Talibangelicals have been prophesying for years would happen?

[WindRavenX]

4. MA has the lowest divorce rate in the nation

I don't know if this holds true for gay marriages, but I know for a fact MA still has the lowest rate of divorce in the nation, which is awesome :D

[MADem]

6. Ahhh, but see how the right would play that?

We have the HIGHEST rate of GAY divorce in the nation, because we're still the only state that allows 'marriage' of gays (civil unions don't count! Not the same!!). Just one lousy divorce would ruin the statistics! :rofl:

[WindRavenX]

3. Letsee...haven't sunk into a sea of fire...

...haven't had locusts invaid the state and eat everything...haven't had first born straight sons killed...mmmkay...I think we're ok :hi:

[Tesha]

5. Y'know, it *DID* rain yesterday.

Y'know, it *DID* rain yesterday. But otherwise, it's been pretty much a
nice autumn.

There is a fair rirsk of Kerry Healey's head exploding, though. That would
be messy.

Tesha

[WindRavenX]

7. and it is a bit windy today

Goddamn faggots and their wind-causing homo-ness! :sarcasm:

[WestSeattle2]

12. LOL....we had a bible thumper running for

governor of Washington state years ago, Ellen Craswell, who proclaimed one year on a rainy, stormy, gay pride day, that God was making it rain to convey his opposition of homosexuality.

Not a word was said about all the years it's sunny and 80 degrees on gay pride day though......Hmmmmmmmmmm

Those BT's are insane.

[MADem]

8. I imagine the folks who cater, let out function rooms, and specialize in

large group celebrations, as well as wedding bands, cake bakers, invitation printers and so forth are thrilled with the law. It's good for business.

Ever since Mitt the Shitt took over with his false promises of luring businesses to MA, the state has been LOSING people and businesses in droves. I swear, they sent that muthafucka here from Utah to SCREW with us. Can't wait till Deval takes over, and we have an adult in charge...

[WindRavenX]

11. If Mitt runs for prez...

...have LOTS of popcorn ready. It'll be a hoot.

BTW, have you noticed that asshat makes the WORST jokes EVER? He joked about polygamy for god's sake!!!

[MADem]

15. He looks like Skeletor with plastic hair. I suspect he'd wither in the national

spotlight--he just doesn't have the right stuff, at all. For every person with something nice to say about him, there are a thousand Massachusettsians who would just as soon fart directly in his face as speak to him. And fart twice more at Healey!!!

The bastard spends more time in NH than he does in MA...and not that I wish ill on my northern neighbors, it's probably why he hasn't fucked MA up as much as he could have!

[WindRavenX]

18. Mittens spends a majority of his time BASHING MA on OUR taxes

What a swell gov, huh? :eyes:

[MADem]

30. The same shithead who capped the circuit breaker taxes on great Aunt

Minnie and great Uncle Lou, who bought their house for peanuts, but because they've had the nerve to raise their family and live there for a whole sixty years, it's increased in value beyond the limit for geezers. And because of that, they aren't ELIGIBLE for the senior tax break...so they are stuck paying full taxes which have fucking tripled in ten years on a fixed social security income.

So sell your house full of memories, where the grandkids and great grandkids come for all the holidays....move out, Lou and Minnie, to some shitty, overpriced, lousy "senior apartment" without room for the family to come visit, because ShitMitt and his evil factotum Healey think you old bastards are "over housed." GOP compassionate conservatism at work! Asshole!!!!

[polmaven]

35. Imagine if he were the president

I know, I know...:scared:...but try.

Can you see him running around the planet bad mouthing America to boost his chances of being king of the world?

[Tesha]

27. I dunno.

> If Mitt runs for prez have LOTS of popcorn ready. It'll be a hoot.

Actually, I'm afraid it will just be sort of sad, esepecially for Mitt.

Even though he's been a good, loyal, appropriately-toady Republican
all these years, and aided the people that the Republican hierarchy
deemed needed aiding and screwed the people that the hierarchy deemed
needed screwing, he won't get anywhere. And its likely that no one
will have the guts to tell him: "Face it Mitt, you were just a useful
fool. You didn't really think all that we'd take a chance that all
those fundy idiots that we depend upon for votes would back a *MORMAN*,
did you?"

Yeah, I'm afraid when the truth comes crashing in on Mittens, it'll
just be kind'a sad.

Tesha

[MADem]

31. I won't find it sad at all. I totally agree with your 'useful tool' assessment

He's trying to fundraise and buy himself some love with the national GOPigs, and they're taking his dough and talking about his geeky Mormon ass behind his back. They'll tar him as a "liberal" even though he's tacked slightly to the right of Attila the Hun--they'll probably drag out his bullshit statements about how he wouldn't change any prochoice laws we have here in the People's Commonwealth.

And then, he has a sick wife. She'll be little help to him. And his kids are just creepy looking--like little Stepfordish-robotic creatures; way too primped and scalded.

I won't feel sorry for the bastard, though. He's an evil entity who deserves to have his smug, plastic face ground into the shit of his own hypocrisy.

I mean, hell, this kind of shit LOOKS like BIG LOVE even though it isn't:

[Marrah_G]

9. Life is good

People don't seem to even blink about gay marriage now. The world hasn't come to an end and my town has the very first legally married gay mayor. The rest of the country will come around in time I hope.

[bluerum]

10. Things are good here. Can't say as much for Iraq. nt

[stepnw1f]

13. Nope...and My Sister is Getting Married to Her Girlfriend!

Interestingly enough, the sanctity of these so-called conservative christian marriages are still without much sanctity, just as much as any other marriage out there at any other time. All is well in Mass...

[WindRavenX]

14. congrats to your sister and her partner!

:party: :bounce:

[stepnw1f]

16. You Cannot Prevent Love

It is impossible... the right wing will lose this issue across the US, just as they lost on the issue of bigotry and intolerance of the past. My sister is going to prove that again....

[donco6]

17. My ex-partner's mother lives there. I think she's still OK.

We haven't had to go rescue her yet, so that must be a good sign. :sarcasm:

[tewl]

19. LOL

:P

[druidity33]

20. well actually...

Most of the health care benefits from my wife's former Union could be taken away from same-sex couples if they DO NOT marry, now that the law has changed. Some people are a little weirded about being compelled to marry to keep their bennies. It's fair enough if you ask me, but it is an awkward situation.

Course, Union jobs are pretty darn rare and don't all offer same-sex benefits... so the point is probably moot.

Otherwise, i'd say gay marriage hasn't made people gayer or anything. Since i live very near the gay mecca of Massachusetts (can anyone guess?), i am pleasantly immersed in the Arts and Music and Restaurants and Cool Social things to do area of the state. Co-ops, healthfood stores, lotsa colleges, quaint New Englandness abound...

Yup, things are pretty good here in Massachusetts... and might be even better if the Celtics start winning games.

[JerseygirlCT]

25. I think that's fair enough, too.

Marriage has pluses and minuses. The gov't awards benefits, but there are also responsibilities. I think the fair thing is to make marriage available to all, regardless of orientation, and then it's fine to attach the benefits to marriage.

When marriage isn't an option, then it's all up for grabs.

[Katzenjammer]

26. "i live very near the gay mecca of Massachusetts"

Well, since you mention colleges it can't be P-town, so it must be N'hampton. But "co-ops"? Plural? Where? The closest one I know of is in Greenfield. Did the N'hampton one finally start up?

[druidity33]

34. yes...

There was one in Amherst until the proprieter went missing. The one in Noho will be running next year, they have the capital. There is one in Leverett. Also there's food buying clubs and CSA's in ABUNDANCE.

Good Local Beers too...

[hvn_nbr_2]

21. I heard there are only six surviving hetero marriages there now and...

the number is dwindling fast. The gay agenda's attack on traditional marriage seems to be succeeding. Lest anyone be too slow to get it: :sarcasm:

[FVZA_Colonel]

22. As far as I know it hasn't descended into a "Road Warrior" like chaos,

but you know that damn liberal media, always trying to obfuscate the facts in favor of their agenda...

[Tesha]

28. *YOU* obviously haven't been out on I-93 lately!

> As far as I know it hasn't descended into a "Road Warrior"
> like chaos, ...

*YOU* obviously haven't been out on I-93 lately!

Tesha

[MADem]

32. Never mind 93, try to get through the goddamn Ted Williams tunnel

without the roof falling in on ya....

[dddem]

23. All I can say is,

The one same-sex wedding I was privileged to attend really put things into perspective for me. Out two dear friends were able, after 12 years together, to legally commit to each other (emotionally, that had been done 11 1/2 years before), and boy you could really see how much it meant to them. It kind of made me realize that as a 20 year married person, I just sort of take for granted what it means. It brought me back to thinking how important it is to be accepted as a couple (legally as well as socially). This is a civil right that should be granted to any 2 adults who are willing to make such a commitment to one another. God Bless them, I say.
And by the way, my marriage was put in far greater jeopardy by my husbands job loss, and no health insurance for my kids for a year. I didn't notice anyone protesting that, though. Hmmm.
Peace.

[TayTay]

24. Let's see. Marriage Equality became the law in May of '04

Since then, the Patriots and Red Sox have both won World Championships. My kids graduated from High school and went on to college and one came back cuz, 'I found out I didn't want to do that anymore.' Property taxes went up again, the high school team went undefeated two seasons in a row. There are 3 or 4 same-sex couples who married in my little town and settled down and are indistinguishable from any other couples in town, functionally.

I think the Republicans will lose the Governorship this year. Ahm, and I think there might be a heavy snow winter coming up. The Pats look good, the Red Sox need to rebuild. I am worried about the job and housing situation in the state.

Nope, same old, same old.

[Tesha]

29. Only 3 or 4?

> There are 3 or 4 same-sex couples who married in my little town
> and settled down and are indistinguishable from any other couples
> in town, functionally.

Only 3 or 4?

It wouldn't be surprising to find that there are more, but
they're simply *NOT NEWSWORTHY* anymore, which I think would
be the best possible outcome of all of this.

Tesha

[G_Leo_Criley]

33. Re: So....How are things in Massachusetts? Society crumble yet?

ha!

Right here in Massachusetts things look good. I've seen no roving gangs of same-sex would-be partners, laughing madly, stalking about, leaving broken marriages in their wake.

Funny thing is that I don't see a lot of folks running around defending "traditional" marriage either. Maybe I'm missing something but it all looks good to me.

Everything is cool Boolean. Very cool. :-)

glc