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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:34 PM
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NYT editorial: Trying to Contain the Iraq Disaster
Trying to Contain the Iraq Disaster
Published: October 24, 2006

No matter what President Bush says, the question is not whether America can win in Iraq. The only question is whether the United States can extricate itself without leaving behind an unending civil war that will spread more chaos and suffering throughout the Middle East, while spawning terrorism across the globe.

The prospect of what happens after an American pullout haunts the debate on Iraq. The administration, for all its hints about new strategies and timetables, is obviously hoping to slog along for two more years and dump the problem on Mr. Bush’s successor. This fall’s election debates have educated very few voters because neither side is prepared to be honest about the terrible consequences of military withdrawal and the very long odds against success if American troops remain....

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Today we want to describe a strategy for containing the disaster as much as humanly possible. It is hardly a recipe for triumph. Americans can only look back in wonder on the days when the Bush administration believed that success would turn Iraq into a stable, wealthy democracy — a model to strike fear into the region’s autocrats while inspiring a new generation of democrats....If an American military occupation could ever have achieved those goals, that opportunity is gone. It is very clear that even with the best American effort, Iraq will remain at war with itself for years to come, its government weak and deeply divided, and its economy battered and still dependent on outside aid. The most the United States can do now is to try to build up Iraq’s security forces so they can contain the fighting — so it neither devours Iraqi society nor spills over to Iraq’s neighbors — and give Iraq’s leaders a start toward the political framework they would need if they chose to try to keep their country whole....

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For all the talk of timetables for Iraq, there has been little discussion of the timetable that must be handed to George W. Bush. The president cannot leave office with American troops still dying in an Iraq that staggers along just short of civil war, on behalf of no concrete objective other than “get the job done,” which is now Mr. Bush’s rhetorical substitute for “stay the course.” The administration’s current vague talk about behind-the-scenes agreements with Iraqi politicians is next to meaningless. Americans, Iraqis and the rest of the world need clear, public signs of progress.

Mr. Bush can make the first one by firing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. There is no chance of switching strategy as long as he is in control of the Pentagon. The administration’s plans have gone woefully wrong, and while the president is unlikely to admit that, he can send a message by removing Mr. Rumsfeld. It would also be a signal to the military commanders in the field that the administration now wants to hear the truth about what they need, what can be salvaged out of this mess, and what cannot....

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/opinion/24tues1.html?hp
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:36 PM
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1. they ignore one of the bigger elephants in the room (pun intended)
Firing Rumsfeld without sidelining Cheney would be fruitless.... Why will none of the MSM EVER tackle Cheney?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:41 PM
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2. NYT is sure singing a different tune than when they let that peter pan
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 11:45 PM by The_Casual_Observer
twit transcribe propaganda directly from cheney's office. Their advice is still useless, rumsfeld isn't doing anything anymore anyway, the damage has all been done.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:45 PM
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3. You must be referring to Judas Miller.
I understand there's a whole new wing of Hell named after her. It's on the Liars campus.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:52 PM
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4. That's it. I didn't want to bother to give it a name. Peter pan or Jiminy
Cricket work just as well for me.
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