if things are not going well for bush and his power grab,

[flordehinojos]

if he fears that the nation is about to break loose from his yoke ... just watch for an increased break down on dissenters ... bush's victory over the killing of habeas corpus will be felt very swiftly by people on the streets who will be picked up and a chain of bush seeded fear will sweep over the land.

that is what dictators do when they feel that they are losing their grip.

[whistle]

1. The military SS will also sweep into action with the heat ray micro

...wave weapons which the torture law bill has opened up for use on U.S. citizens

[aquart]

2. And this army of automatons will come from where?

[babylonsister]

4. I'd like to know, too. At some point the 'enforcers' must ask

themselves, "What am I doing to my fellow citizens? And why?"

[dailykoff]

7. A few will, and they'll be made object lessons,

just like in Iraq. Most won't.

[aquart]

10. They're in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Of course, George could go for the draft. And I wish him well with it.

[dailykoff]

6. DHS.

They've been building their goon squad for the last five years.

[aquart]

9. Yeah? How many they got?

Enough to march into 50 states and take over control of the statehouses? Because we are going to have a lot of Democratic governors.

I don't want to rain on your hysteria, but this is a federal system.

A hated president starts arresting citizens? Good luck with that.

Is this his plan? You betcha. Will it work? Just as well as every other thing he's done.

[dailykoff]

11. The figures are pretty staggering.

Let's start with the annual DHS budget of 27.8 billion dollars, and that's only a fraction of federal domestic "security" spending:



Have a look at some of what they're spending it on:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/dhs.html

Oh, and they've been arresting innocent US citizens since 9/11/01. Now they won't even have to bother coming up with phony charges.

Haven't you been paying attention? :eyes:

[aquart]

13. A friend's Jordanian husband was rounded up.

They posted bail.

[tjwash]

14. "Will it work? Just as well as every other thing he's done."

LOVE IT :yourock:

[Richard Steele]

8. ...

[piedmont]

12. Easy-- it will come from here:

http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/index.asp

not much to fear now, but give it a few years....

[Divine Discontent]

3. and If there's not OUTRAGE about that

if it occurs, when it probably will at some point in USA history, then this country is DEAD.

I watched the Miami youtube video of that lawyer getting shot twice with rubber bullets for NO reason, and the extremely bad Portland gassing and beating of antiwar ralliers, and that tells me that sickos like that sergeant in the last video, will JOYFULLY burn people and laugh about it the next day, like in the Miami video.

[Cobalt-60]

5. Fortunately rope production is sufficient

to provide a new noose for every one of them.

[flordehinojos]

16. today the BROWARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE was out

rounding up known teen-age law breakers for the purpose of getting their mug shots and fingerprints and bringing them before a judge. There is no way that ALL BROWARD COUNTY TEENAGERS COULD HAVE ACTED UP ALL IN THE SAME DAY. They were just rounding up these for the most part boys, for the most part black and hispanic minorities, booking them, taking their mugshots and fingerprints and letting them go until a judge calls them.

This may have been done before. It is just something I have never heard of before and it sounds all so muddied up that i am wondering if it is somehow connected with the killing of the writ of habeas corpus. i am wondering if it somehow is related to the police state that will now become o so apparent for all of us, and to some sort of national registry equal to the one that putin used to head back in the days of the U.S.S.R.

This may all just be a dress rehearsal for all of that.

They are also rounding up lots of foreigners around here for the purpose of checking their papers.

[whistle]

17. More like days of Nazi Germany

[tjwash]

15. Don't bet on it.

We will simply collapse into a half a dozen separate countries like the Soviet Union did during its downward spiral. Same as Rome did during its spiral into oblivion. And Greece, and Persia, and China...oh wait...