This just in: Bush is a coward and wants to cut and run from terror!

[Ian_rd]

I hereby declare that the terrorists have won and America has surrendered.

Bush Says He'll Reconsider Iraq Strategy
President Plans To Consult With Top Generals About Escalating Violence

(CBS/AP) President Bush acknowledged Friday that the situation in Iraq was tough and he said he would consult with U.S. generals to see if a change in tactics was necessary to combat the escalating violence.

Seventy-four American troops have died in Iraq in October, likely to become the deadliest month for U.S. forces in nearly two years.

"One of the reasons you're seeing more casualties is the enemy is active and so are our troops," Mr. Bush said in a brief interview with The Associated Press.

He said he planned consultations in the next day with Gen. John Abizaid, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East, and Gen. George Casey, who leads the U.S.-led Multinational Forces in Iraq.

"We are constantly adjusting tactics so we can achieve our objectives and right now, it's tough," the president said.

He declined to say whether he thought a change was necessary.

The president says U.S. goals in Iraq remain the same: to have a country that can sustain itself, govern itself and help in the fight against terrorism.

"The president is not going to alter his approach based on political considerations, but instead on the business of trying and moving toward having an Iraq that can sustain, govern and defend itself," White House spokesman Tony Snow said earlier Friday, reports CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller. Snow added that political considerations don't win conflicts.

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In other news, CBS fails to mention that any time over the past three years when a Democrat suggested the president change strategy they were characterized as cowards who wanted to retreat from the fight against terrorists. Thank you, CBS News. Keep that ol' memory hole fire burnin'! Love ya. Assholes.

[babylonsister]

1. Ya mean he's flip-floppin'? Say it ain't so! And which Dem plan

will he adopt? :eyes:
At this point, I don't care who gets credit. Get those soldiers out of there!

[JuniperLea]

2. Waaaaa? Consult Generals?

Whodathunk you might consult Generals during a war? Why I never!


Oh, but W isn't going to alter his approach based n political considerations... we know that! He only stayed the course for political considerations.

[resist_vote on paper]

3. America has lost anyway, it has lost its constitution

Have you already read this:

By Bev Conover
Online Journal Editor & Publisher


Oct 20, 2006, 01:34

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Actually, the government hasn't served the people for a long time. But now, with a stroke of a pen, George W. Bush wiped out the last vestiges of the US Constitution, nullifying our democratic republic, and has all but declared himself dictator. So what are we going to do about it?

Are we going to sit back and hope that the US Supreme Court will declare the Military Commissions Act of 2006 unconstitutional? A hard thing to do in the absence of a constitution, i.e., if someone can even bring the case to the court, given that Bush declared "enemy combatants" have no rights.

Are we going to cross our fingers and hope that the military will effect a bloodless coup by marching into the Oval Office, the Executive Office Building, the Pentagon, the State Department and the Department of Justice and removing Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Gonzales? Doubtful, since today's so-called patriots, unlike those who risked all in 1776 to declare our independence from Britain, are not apt to risk their careers, much less their lives.

full article here: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_1339.shtml

[Solly Mack]

4. and that is what we call a blink

"The president is not going to alter his approach based on political considerations, but (will alter his approach)instead on (based on) the business of trying and moving toward having an Iraq that can sustain, govern and defend itself,"

So he'll change the course, directions, "strategy" - whatever they want to call it - but the rhetoric will remain the same. Course, they want you to know that polls, American voices , and political expediency ("political considerations") play absolutely no role in this.


We'll hear how Bush will "alter his approach" based on "what the generals on the ground say" - which has been their talking point for a while now - that they listen to the people actually on the ground in Iraq (not). An attempt to frame any "change the course" in terms of it just being the smart thing to do at this time...at this time being the key talking point...as in, before now changing the course would have been bad...but now, and only now, have events gotten so bad that a change was needed.


In other words, the WH is about to try and sell a crock of fresh shit as the "plan all along"

[VOX]

5. FLIP-FLOP, big-time. n/t

[BurtWorm]

6. He does want to cut and run, but this is not an example of it.

Cutting and running is cowardly. It's what Bush plans to do on January 21, 2008, when he cuts and runs from every mess he's made in the previous eight years.

What he's talking about above is *not* cutting and running. It's called "trying to look like you're not going to cut and run."

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. Don't count on it.

After all, putting another two hundred thousand boots on the ground there would also be a change in strategy. And frankly, to accomplish the goals that they say have NOT changed, that might be the only way to do it.

The question is, how do you sell it?

[babylonsister]

8. I've read they don't have an additional 200,000 pair of boots to

put on the ground. And now would be an 'unusual' time to pronounce a draft.

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. Scenario: We accuse Iran of directly aiding the Sadr militia, and

in retaliation, put a naval task force in place to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. Knowing we don't have the manpower to attack, the Iranians respond by trying to break the blockade with torpedo gun boats or anti-ship missiles. One of the ships is seriously damaged, with casualties.

THEY ATTACKED US!!!

The flags come out, we send in the B-2s, and in the patriotic ferver, congress passes the draft.

Do you think they got the selective service system up to speed without the intent of using it?

Is ANY of the above improbable?

[babylonsister]

11. Not at all improbable; very very frightening though. I

wonder how many would swallow your scenario? I also have doubts Iran would act so clueless.

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. Well, frankly, they don't have to act on it.

We just have to say they did. Tonkin II.

[Hubert Flottz]

9. Bush was for the war in Iraq before he was against it.

For the Bin Laden Family, before he was against them.

For bringing bin Laden in dead or alive, before he was for forgetting about him.

[leftchick]

13. changing tactics vs changing strategy

hmmmm, a lot of word games here. If anyone really thinks anything is going to change in Iraq before that shit head leaves office you are sorely mistaken. Bank on it.