Paranoia, paper ballots, and tinfoil hats.

[badgerpup]

Seems as though a lot of places will have paper ballots "on request".
That's nice.:eyes:

I trust that about as far as I could toss my ex-Beloved Sig Other, who was a very big guy.
Paper ballots...well, gosh darn it, they might have gotten given out, but...
"Who's to be certain they were actually used?" :sarcasm:

How about having someone there (I'm checking out my area) to verify SOLELY how many people request paper ballots, and USE THEM?
Requests for a ballot would be marked and numbered on a tally sheet, and the voter can make an "X" or something next to their number once the ballot is dropped in the wastebasket box...
something like this will at least be some kind of tabs on the paper ballots, would it not?


The "X" denotes "yeah, I used this thing" but doesn't invade privacy like initials would.

Am I making sense here? :freak:

[pooja]

1. You can never be sure your vote will count when it comes to other

people counting the votes. Its just the way that it is. Paper or machine there is always going to be fraud. When you vote in silence, you give up your right to make it official. There is no way to check and make sure your vote has been counted correctly or at all.

As much as I hate allowing a big brother system... every registered voter needs a number. They need to have that number registered election ballot. A ballot that can be checked once submitted. I hate the idea of it. But the obscure vote is killing us... and think if you could actually vote on-line... how many more people would take the time to vote... how easy would it be for military personel, college kids, elderly with disabilties to vote.

[stillcool]

2. that doesn't sound like any solution.

if we already have purged voter rolls and voter suppression with anonymous balloting how can registered ballots be better? And, until there is a computerized system of voting that can be proven accurate, how can you possibly equate the questionable missing votes of non-paper ballots, with the easily verified paper ballot?

[pooja]

5. Because paper can be tossed... look at the stolen Mexican election.

Its the anonymous part that is making it hard to track.. if I vote paper or machine I place my vote in the hands of other people and have to trust that it is counted correctly. There is no checks and balances in voting.

[badgerpup]

3. I KNEW I wasn't coming across clearly....

This way, if the emergency paper ballots 'get lost' between the polling place and where they are to be counted, at least THERE WILL BE PROOF that there's some election fraud going on.
:tinfoilhat:

No, there's no way to tell what the votes were. But if enough ballots 'disappear' it might call the election into contest, is what I'm on about.

[BootinUp]

4. A thread after my own heart.

Of course there is fraud possible with either system. I actually trust computer technolgy that has been certified accurate more than paper ballots.

Yeah yeah I know they can be hacked. Happens every day.

Hey where'd that bag of paper ballots go, there where 5 of them last time I looked.