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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:17 PM
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'A Republican businessman vilifies George Bush'
Richard W. Behan: 'A Republican businessman vilifies George Bush'
Posted on Monday, October 18 @ 10:21:17 EDT
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Mr. Karl Schwarz -- Conservative and Devoutly Christian -- and His Wild Book of Outrage

By Richard W. Behan

George Bush is not a Christian, Karl Schwarz tells you. He is a liar, and Christians don't lie.
Schwarz is telling this to anyone who might listen, including President Bush, to whom he fired off a smoking email entitled "An American Demands the Truth From You."

Other listeners are adding up quickly. First he sent to his stockholders--300,000 people or so--a PowerPoint presentation daylighting the greed, deception, and stupefying corruption of the Bush Administration. Lately he is making the rounds of the talk show circuit, and the wild book of outrage will soon be on the streets.

It is a formidable read. 810 pages. And a comprehensive title to match: One Way Ticket to Crawford, Texas: A Conservative Republican Speaks Out on September 11, 2001; Afghanistan; Iraq; Bush-Cheney 2004; Imperial Oil "Strategeries".

<snip>

The book displays the ongoing transformation of a decent democracy into the functional fascism of corporate empire. The Republicans are not uniquely responsible for this--Schwarz takes directed swipes at the Clinton years--but the Bush Administration's frenzied, happy sellout to the corporate and the wealthy is rapidly completing the process. George Bush and his henchmen, Schwarz asserts, are brazenly using the military might of the United States to enrich their political supporters and their associated corporate interests.

Karl W. B. Schwarz lives in Little Rock, Arkansas. He was twice asked by his party (but declined) to run for governor, opposing Bill Clinton. He was a top fundraiser for the Republican National Committee, as a close personal friend of RNC treasurer, William J. "Mr. Mac" McManus. Schwarz was active at the highest levels in the re-election campaign of George H.W. Bush. He has not been a lightweight Republican.

<snip>

Schwarz' signature revelation is the story of what happened to an obscure Argentinean company, the Bridas Corporation--and how that might explain 9/11, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

There is $7.34 trillion worth of petroleum and another $3 trillion of natural gas in the Caspian Basin. A pipeline across Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India could bring it to market. (Included in this "market" are a number of gas-fired power plants in Pakistan, owned by US corporations, and, at the time, an Enron project in Dabhol, India.)

In 1995 the Bridas Corporation was negotiating with the Taliban in Afghanistan to build the pipeline. The U.S. Government and the Unocal Corporation were pressing the Taliban fiercely to decline. In January of 1996, however, Bridas signed the contract to proceed: it now controlled the flow of Caspian riches.

Fast forward to1998. The Project for a New American Century is staffed by a group of "neoconservatives," starkly rightwing political thinkers and activists. It is committed to maintaining the military and economic supremacy in the world accorded the United States by the collapse of the Soviet Union. On January 26, 1998, the PNAC sent a letter to President Clinton urging the removal of Saddam Hussein by military means, if necessary. Should he remain in power, much would be put at hazard, including "a significant portion of the world's supply of oil." Signing the letter were Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, James Woolsey, Zalmay Khalilzad, John Bolton, Richard Armitage, and Elliott Abrams.

<snip>

One more fast forward: to January of 2001. The Bush Administration has taken office, and the linkages with the oil industry are intimate, historic, and huge. The president and vice president are just the openers: eight cabinet members and the National Security Advisor were drafted directly from the oil industry, and so were 32 other officials, in the Departments of Defense, State, Energy, Agriculture, Interior, and the Office of Management and Budget.

Vice President Dick Cheney convenes his supersecret "Energy Task Force." Its membership and deliberations remain deliberately obscured, but Schwarz is certain the forced removal of the Taliban and the Bridas Corporation was discussed. The citizen group Judicial Watch did force the release of a few documents, however, with a lawsuit. Prominent among them is a map of the Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, tanker terminals, and oil exploration blocks: the Cheney Task Force had more than a passing interest in Iraqi oil, as well.

From Paul O'Neill and others we know the new Bush people, from their first days in office, intended to invade Iraq. Less well known was the covert planning, undertaken in the spring of 2001, for an attack on Afghanistan. The State Department gained the concurrence of both India and Pakistan for the attack, but as late as August 2, U.S. negotiators were still asking the Taliban to rescind the pipeline contract with the Bridas Corporation. The negotiations were fruitless.

<snip>

To Karl Schwarz' credit, he chooses only to establish the dots of fact, leaving it to others to connect them and find culpability. But his dots show the Bush Administration was fully aware of the Bridas contract and its threat to the domestic oil industry.

Anyone past middle school can understand how desperately the Bush Administration needed a credible excuse to proceed with its planned attack on Afghanistan. To suggest 9/11 was engineered is risky, but to consider it an unrelated coincidence is asking a great deal. Can anyone be that lucky? There is, of course, a middle ground between engineering and random good fortune: the Bush Administration might in fact have known about the impending disaster but chose, as half of the New Yorkers believe, to do nothing.

<snip>

The $10 trillion of hydrocarbon fluids in the Caspian Basin are now firmly controlled by US oil companies, including BP/Amoco, Chevron-Texaco, Amerada Hess, Devon Energy, and Remington/Western Resources. (These companies also have in common a law firm to represent them: Baker Botts of Houston, Texas. The senior partner in the firm is James Baker, the engineer of George Bush's selection as President by the Supreme Court, and former Secretary of State in the first Bush Administration. Baker Botts has been retained also by Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia. Prince Aziz has been accused of complicity in 9/11--and sued--by the families of World Trade Center victims, and Baker Botts is defending him.)

<snip>

President Bush spoke repeatedly of an al Qaida-Iraqi linkage, deliberately and successfully (and we know now falsely) persuading the American public Saddam Hussein was an accessory to 9/11. Chemical weapons, biological weapons, soon-to-be nuclear weapons. Months and months of lies and deception at home, of arm twisting abroad and at the United Nations. And then came the "pre-emptive" invasion.

Now that the lies of the Bush Administration have been exposed, we are told the Iraqi adventure was undertaken to bring freedom and democracy to that tragic region of the world. Liberation to the Iraqis, however, looks more like occupation. And the construction, once more, of permanent military bases in Iraq provides ample reason to feel that way.

US military might has now cordoned off, during the Bush Administration, both the $10 trillion in Caspian Basin resources and the world's second largest pool of petroleum in Iraq. This is a fact, one of Karl Schwarz' dots. Is it truly just a collateral result, a mere by-product of bringing freedom and democracy to the Middle East?

Ask who benefits from the fact. Ask who bears the costs. And ask how it happened. Karl Schwarz can answer all three questions, with names, dates, and places. He will let you connect his dots.

Mr. Schwarz has seen what other Republicans need to see: Emperor Bush is utterly naked. He is a geopolitical Wizard of Oz. Behind the curtain of his "freedom and democracy" rhetoric there lies indeed a world-class liar, a wretched charlatan.

As no other president in history, George W. Bush has directed a Big Lie campaign against his own country, disgracing our nation in the eyes of the world and dividing our people at home

<snip>

We need to give George W. Bush a one-way ticket home.

This essay is deliberately not copyrighted, so permission to reproduce it is unnecessary. Richard W. Behan's latest book is Plundered Promise: Capitalism, Politics, and the Fate of the Federal Lands (Island Press, 2001). For information about the book go to http://www.rockisland.com/~rwbehan/. Behan is currently working on a more broadly rendered critique, Degenerate Democracy: A Failing U.S. Constitution and the Triumph of Corporate Avarice. He can be reached at rwbehan@rockisland.com.
 
http://smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=18312&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Excerpts from review posted at length with full permission. Read the Book
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:22 PM
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1. Yee-Haw!!
Chickens are finally coming home to roost!
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:42 PM
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2. Has anyone here read his book? n/t
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:09 PM
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25. Yes - Karl is the real deal!
His book is chock a block full of Bush crime family business dealings and all their friends, law firms, you name it.........

He also exposes 911 - more deeply than anyone else - follow the money - Karl will have some surprises for you.......

Read everything he has written.....study it

Bama
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 12:50 PM
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3. Amazing read...
thank you so much for sharing it. I will certainly be looking for this book!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 01:56 PM
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4. Time to Nationalize Oil AND disbar Jim Baker
"The $10 trillion of hydrocarbon fluids in the Caspian Basin are now firmly controlled by US oil companies, including BP/Amoco, Chevron-Texaco, Amerada Hess, Devon Energy, and Remington/Western Resources. (These companies also have in common a law firm to represent them: Baker Botts of Houston, Texas. The senior partner in the firm is James Baker, the engineer of George Bush's selection as President by the Supreme Court, and former Secretary of State in the first Bush Administration. Baker Botts has been retained also by Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia. Prince Aziz has been accused of complicity in 9/11--and sued--by the families of World Trade Center victims, and Baker Botts is defending him.)"
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:00 PM
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5. Karl knows 9/11 was an inside job.
Karl wants to know about Bridas in Afghanistan...about Sibel Edmonds...and much more.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:24 PM
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8. Which is probably why Schwartz was vilified here on DU
when he first got some publicity.

Mr Schwartz has quite a few interesting things to say, as testified before the Reopen 9-11 panel:
http://66.111.201.132/video/cte_26_lo.mov (video - mov)
https://secure.reopen911.org/freedvd.php
www.reopen911.org
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:49 PM
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10. Yes he does. He also calls out the phony 'Christians' like Pat Robertson
and Falwell in accepting 'faith based' funds and corrupting both politics and religion.

Good links, thanks for posting.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:09 PM
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13. Good!
I'm glad someone is!
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:01 PM
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6. Ah!
What we so despairitely need, more 'good' republicans to come out of the woodwork. :headbang:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:23 PM
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7. "Forbidden Truth" finally validated.

Very interesting-sounding book, but you know, these "revelations" and more are available in the 2002 edition of Forbidden Truth by Jean-Charles Brisard & Guillaume Dasquie. However, when the book was published, Bushco had so succeeded in villifying the French, and convincing the sheeple that somehow Bush was the dear untouchable leader, that Forbidden Truth was immediately scorned and dismissed as merely tinfoil hat material from the hated French, and all of its (proven and undisputed by Bushco) FACTS buried.

It's good that Schwarz has come out against Bushco, but he doesn't convince me he was unaware of the depths of depravity and corruption within the Republican party when he was out there raising fistfuls of dough in order to grease its operation. Even after all this, I bet he still wouldn't vote Democrat.


Good for him, though, that he's still able to feel outrage and has decided to do something about it.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 02:44 PM
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9. It will take someone with his Repug credentials to even get a hearing
from diehard Repugs - they won't listen to anyone else - but his closet better be squeaky clean because we all know what happens to critics of this administration

Good luck on your mission Mr Schwarz, trying to bring the truth to people who don't want to listen
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:04 PM
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11. Sounds like Karl is one of the Conservative Americans
Who realize that they've been highjacked by the Neocons.

I've never really had a problem with the traditional conservatives...just these neocon bastards. One can debate with a traditional conservative...neocons just insult you and call you unAmerican. I hope more real conservatives listen up to the likes of him.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:11 PM
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14. Yes
With some cons I've started at the end of the debate with one and one time me and one ended up having an agreement about the issue we were discussing. It's the neocons who like to divide and conquer when they could care less about anything else besides money.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:19 PM
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16. The traditional conservative:
Small Government
Laissez Fare control on the economy
Constitutional values
Insular foreign relations

Just what part of those values does Bushco and their knuckle dragging ilk follow?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:08 PM
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12. Nice
He talks about PNAC. Good. :D And of course Bush isn't a true Christian. Actions speak louder than words. Here's a little passage with that: Matthew chapter five verse thirty-seven: Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:16 PM
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15. Wow!! :-)
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 03:29 PM
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17. Very Interesting Stuff Here: Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble Part 1
Edited on Wed Dec-28-05 03:31 PM by Clara T
Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble

Part 1: The 9-11 Commission

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer


<snip>

Yes, Mr. Kean, Nicholas Brady, Ms. Holiday and F. Border Walker will all benefit by the removal of the Taliban and Bridas Corporation. Part II—Pop Goes the Bush Mythology Bubble in part addresses the pipeline all of these people conspired to take over. They could not make billions from oil investments in Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and not have a way to get the landlocked oil and gas out. They had to have that pipeline across Afghanistan and the Taliban / Bridas Corporation were blocking the way. Chevron and Condoleezza Rice had to have been sitting in that boardroom down there, too, trying to figure out ways to get control of that pipeline so the oil and gas could get out.

Now they want a pipeline through Georgia and the Ukraine to the Black Sea too, so that is in part what the hubbub is over in Ukraine in regard to the U.S., Republican International, National Democratic Institute <"NDI"> and George Soros' efforts to control that election.
What Caspian モdoersヤ does Baker & Botts represent? BP Amoco, Unocal (Delta/Saudi), Amerada Hess (Delta/Saudi), PennzEnergy (now Devon Energy), Remington Holdings, Ltd / Western Acquisitions, Inc, LLC and LP that were lucky enough to get $130.75 million in financing from OPIC to acquire oil and gas reserves in Pakistan. This one smells "pay off" and all Americans have the right to know who Remington Holdings and Western Acquisitions, Inc, et al, are, since both are reported to be Washington, DC-based Baker & Botts clients.

"OPIC AGREES TO FINANCE THE PURCHASE OF PAKISTAN OIL AND GAS CONCESSIONS, 7/1/2002: The Overseas Private Investment Corporation and Western Acquisitions, Inc. entered into a finance agreement on April 9, 2002 whereby OPIC agreed to finance Western Acquisitions' purchase of nine oil and gas concessions being privatized by the Government of Pakistan. Collectively, these concessions contain nearly 50 oil and gas fields producing approximately 26,000 barrels of oil equivalent per day and 168 million cubic feet of gas per day. "

"Remington Holdings, Inc. Purchase oil and gas concessions $130,750,000 Finance, (Western Acquisitions, Inc.)

Baker, Kean, Amerada Hess, Caspian Basin, bribes in Kazakhstan, Nicholas Brady, Edith Holiday, had to have a pipeline and got really big deals cooking in Pakistan, too, that conveniently have not been disclosed publicly on a wide basis and that wayward pipeline that can get natural gas to Pakistan's electrical plants, too. Come to your own conclusion.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/12/305263.shtml
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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:02 PM
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18. who is bridas
who on the other end of this deal?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:16 PM
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19. Bridas: an Argentine company.
http://www.lfkm.com/5thupdates1.htm

Bridas had a contract (in the early 90's) to build an oil pipeline in Afghanistan. I believe it also had a contract with the then-Afghan government, the Taliban. Unocal, an American company, was disappointed that it had not won this contract.

Bridas' contract was with the government of Turkmenistan. (Incidentally, the oil minister, or head of the energy department, of the Turkmenistan government, at this time, was a dual national who was both Turkmen and Israeli.)

The lawsuit described in the link arose because Bridas got screwed out of its contract.

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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:17 PM
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20. Also see Clara T's post above. Very informative.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 07:54 AM
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35. Schwartz on Bridas and related issues (video)
before the Reopen 9-11 panel:
http://66.111.201.132/video/cte_26_lo.mov (video - mov 32MB)
https://secure.reopen911.org/freedvd.php
www.reopen911.org
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:20 PM
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21. Can't find any of his books on Amazon...
:shrug:
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:11 PM
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26. go to RBNLive or www.karlschwarz.com
I ordered mine from RBNLive
Bama
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 11:49 PM
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27. Thanks - just bought one
couldn't find it on Amazon, then saw your post. It's hard to remember, since the neocons have given repukes such a bad name, that there was a time they were just the party I voted against, because the Democratic party represented me better. There was a time, I think, when they weren't all crooks, liars, murderers and worse - I'm surprised we don't hear about more of them being outraged.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:25 PM
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22. His website... He's running for Prez in 2008!!??
Entrepreneur and author, Karl Schwarz is running for President of the United States in 2008, representing a brand new independent third political party, and he intends to win. As crazy as this might sound at first, Schwarz makes a very compelling case, and after listening to him talk about his plan, you begin to see that these are extraordinary times we live in, and a rare opportunity indeed exists to have the type of impact Ross Perot had on the election in 1992, and far greater. You too start to believe. This is not only possible. It just might happen.

http://www.karlschwarz.com/

:wow: :shrug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 01:17 AM
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29. Yes, this would be good
in exposing what has been going on and repukes might not dismiss it as partisan politics given it would be coming from a republican.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:25 AM
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32. Wow, I really like what he had to say!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:27 AM by Rainscents
Looks like, he is going to start presidence trail on '06! Why can't dem's come out and speak up like this guy!!!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:42 AM
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33. I just did three hours research on this guy....
videos, interview, fact checking etc etc....

he will never make it to 2008 alive....

he is far too dangerous to the corporation of ameriKa
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:25 AM
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37. I like this: "I couldn't possibly screw [the country] up any worse
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 10:27 AM by Habibi
than they already have." Now, that's what I call a campaign slogan!

edit: typo
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 07:57 PM
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23. Nominated and I swiped ....
your excellent synopsis for reposting on another forum.

"You can't stop the signal."
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-28-05 10:30 PM
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24. Some more interesting stuff
Seems this Schwarz guy has quite a handle on the incestuous nature of these affairs and where the money flows.

Here:
Jamie Gorelick sits on the boards of two companies directly
benefiting from Bush-Cheney policy, one oil related (Schlumberger),
one defense related (United Technologies), not to mention her prior
position as general counsel of the Department of Defense while the
Bridas "mugging" was in progress in two countries—Pakistan and
Turkmenistan. Christine Todd Whitman, former Bush EPA head, sits on
the United Technologies board too. What environmental policy?

After being elected president, Bush found ?friend? Victor Ashe a
cushy job at Fannie Mae, and that agency is now under investigation
by the SEC for some serious wrongdoing. Of course, 9-11 Commission
member Jamie Gorelick was also on that board during the period of
time that the SEC was investigating. When news got out that people
were digging into a 1984 Chattanooga matter and seeking Victor Ashe,
Bush appointed him ambassador to Poland so he would be too busy with
our GWOT buddies over in Poland to talk to the media.

"I thought maybe Jamie S. Gorelick, Commissioner was a go-getter
until I saw the Big War Pig and Big Oil Pig boards she sits on and
her former role as general counsel for the Department of Defense, and
they are certainly 100 percent behind the Bush-Cheney Ball Busting
Foreign Policy.

"From May 1993 until she joined the Justice Department, Gorelick
served as general counsel of the Department of Defense."

http://www.mideastbeat.com/2005/12/and_in_the_beginning_was_911.html
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:05 AM
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28. Kick it back up. Recommended too.(nt - Impeach Bu$h avatar)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 03:53 AM
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30. he's coming at 9/11 from the other side - and he too can't accept that it
"just happened." Sounds like he's a LIHOP man.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 04:23 AM
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31. Kick and Recommend!
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 04:24 AM by ClayZ
Now "WE" are talking. That is what I call Bipartisan!


:woohoo:



:kick:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 05:53 AM
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34. And this doesn't even touch on the surveillance issue,
which was what I was expecting, prior to reading the OP.
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 08:02 AM
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36. LIHOP / MIHOP going mainstream! kicked and rec'd nt
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:37 AM
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38. thanks!
and kicking
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 11:52 AM
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39. "Carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs"
Well whaddya know? A planned invasion of Afghanistan in the spring of 2001, along with plans to invade Iraq for OIL! :wow: I'm shocked! :rofl: Non-believers of 9/11 being a LIHOP attack, does this convince them?
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