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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:31 AM
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What about the War on Halloween?
Ever notice how everyone has a "Fall Festival" these days instead of a Halloween party? And nutty moms and dads get all worried about this supposedly Satanic holiday, and try to keep it out of the schools.

Why hasn't O'Really done a series on the War on Halloween? Our traditions are under attack, people!

:yoiks:
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:32 AM
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1. My House is a Halloween house BOO
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:32 AM
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2. Good point!
The fundies keep trying to take the fun out of Halloween, yet no one is kvetching about it. Its one of my favorite holidays!
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:24 PM
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29. A fundie where I worked wouldn't let his kids go trick or treating.
It's a pagan holiday, you see. This same guy would not let his children use the word "Easter" since it is derived from the name of a pagan god, Astarte. (Did I mention that this was a rare "intellectual" fundie?)
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:34 AM
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3. If you wanted a War on Halloween, you should have started in August
it's the middle of October, and you want to start a War on Halloween now? We're gearing up for the War on Christmas.

It's gonna be a looooonnnng autumn.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:43 AM
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8. hopefully with all the combat,
nobody will notice Thanksgiving. Yay, turkey.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:53 AM
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13. shhh!!! MrsCoffee makes the World's Greatest Stuffing.
anyone tries to take Turkey Day from me is gonna get five across the lip.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:56 AM
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15. You can't start a War on Halloween in August.
You don't introduce new products until the fall!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:35 AM
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4. I sent a really snarky email to one of our local
tv stations a few years ago, telling them they need to check their history before talking, when they asserted on air that Halloween was a holiday devised by atheists in order to worship satan and destroy christianity.

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:40 AM
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6. it's really astonishing
what passes for facts on local TV news.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:09 PM
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16. "....devised by atheists in order to worship satan ...."
Do these people even pay attention to the crap that spews out of their own mouths????

:wtf:
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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:39 PM
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19. Athiests don't worship satan,
nor god. that's why they're called athiests. duh.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 03:58 PM
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27. I know that, you know that
local anchor personalities just say whatever they feel like.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:44 PM
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20. Atheists that believe in Satan?
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:40 AM
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5. I LOVE Halloween!!!! It's my favorite!!!!!!!!
Halloween's the coolest! The Fundies can eat my undies! :bounce: :patriot:

Kick for Halloween!

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:40 AM
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7. us evil liberals love halloween. family, laughter, together, neighbors
joy, play, festive.....

taking evilness and mocking it.... ya.. how bothered would god be in the play of halloween.

my kids went to fundie school and was just telling them the other day, this school refuses halloween saying honoring satan. nothing to do with it. i had a coffee mug, orange and ghost i would carry into school a couple times a week. lol. they started with fall festival, to get funds and then changed to freedom fest..... everything about it was halloween with another name. candy, games, pumpkins, dress up....

i would tell the parents and teachers and adm they were being hypocrits

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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:44 AM
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9. freedom fest?
Wow, that's really lame! What is wrong with these people?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:49 AM
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12. pretty lame. my family refused the freedom fest. continued fall
festive. no way were we going ot call it freedom fest
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:44 AM
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10. First they came for the pumpkins...
First they came for the pumpkins and I did not speak out because I was not a pumpkin.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:45 PM
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21. Best post of the day!!!
:rofl:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:48 AM
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11. Halloween is as American as apple pie!
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 11:53 AM
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14. Yep, when I was in elementary school...
many moons ago, we had a "Halloween Carnival" every year, where we bobbed for apples and played games and there was a Haunted House. Now, my 10-year old niece has Fall Festival where they basically do the same thing... well, maybe minus the Haunted House. I don't get it.. Halloween is about the most secular holiday that we have! It has lost all of its religious overtones. I did a paper in college on the history of Halloween, and most people have no idea of its origins. Here it is in a nutshell: the church, in its infinite wisdom, tried to "marry" a popular pagan festival, the Celtic New Year, to a religious holiday, All Saints Day, in the hopes that the religious holiday would eventually erase the "pagan" holiday. Apparently this was standard operating procedure for the Catholic church in the early years - they would try to merge their own religious holidays with the ones of the people conquered by Rome. The same thing happened with Christmas/Saturnalia and Easter/Eastre (and other celebrations of spring). While Christmas and Easter have retained their religious significance, Halloween turned out just the opposite. The "pagan" holiday won, and the religious holiday lost (when's the last time you celebrated All Saints Day??) All of that "Satan worshipping" stuff is utter BS. The Celtic people had no concept of Satan until Christianity arrived.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:31 PM
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17. What about the war on Mithra?...
Mithra was:
born of a virgin in a stable on the winter solstice--frequently December 25 in the Julian calendar (the emperor Aurelian declared December 25 to be the official birthday of Mithra, circa 270 CE)--attended by shepherds who brought gifts;
worshiped on Sundays; shown with a nimbus, or halo, around his head; said to take a last supper with his followers when he returned to his father; believed not to have died, but to have ascended to heaven, whence it was believed he would return at the end of time to raise the dead in a physical resurrection for a final judgement, sending the good to heaven and the wicked to hell, after the world had been destroyed by fire;
to grant his followers immortal life following baptism.

Followers of Mithra:
followed a leader called a 'papa' (pope), who ruled from the Vatican hill in Rome;
celebrated the atoning death of a savior who has resurrected on a Sunday;
celebrated sacramenta (a consecrated meal of bread and wine), termed a Myazda (corresponding exactly to the Catholic Missa (mass), using chanting, bells, candles, incense, and holy water, in remembrance of the last supper of Mithra).
The emperor Constantine was a follower of Mithra until he declared December 25 the official birthday of Jesus in 313 CE and adopted the cult of Christianity as the state religion.

http://www.bsu.edu/web/01bkswartz/xmaspub.html
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:38 PM
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18. They hate us for our candy corn
I've never really liked candy corn either, actually...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 04:03 PM
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28. What are you???An Amerikkkan???
You don't like candy corn?
I'm ferklempt.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 12:49 PM
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22. Right Wingers have their own brand of "political correctness".
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:11 PM
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23. Taking Witches Seriously
Hey... Halloween is the only time that the Fundies actually claim that Wicca is a religion! :D Although, if they'd see our Samhain celebrations, they'd be bored silly.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:26 PM
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24. He is too afraid to touch the story n/t
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:49 PM
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25. SamHain is not pleased...
The dead will have their revenge...
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-14-06 01:50 PM
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26. The people who put fluoride in your water want to stop Halloween!
Edited on Sat Oct-14-06 02:04 PM by Democrats_win
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