So the GOP sends the Democrats a letter about the Foley Scandal.

[madfloridian]

This goes under the heading of too weird to believe, but I guess that heading is out the window now.

GOP prods Dems over Foley scandal

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Faced with fending off the backlash from the Mark Foley scandal, House Republicans took the offensive Friday, asking Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats to testify about whether they engaged in partisan trickery by releasing Foley's messages weeks before the midterm elections.

Top GOP leaders -- including House Speaker Dennis Hastert, of Illinois, and Majority Leader John Boehner, of Ohio -- have accused the Democrats of knowing about Foley's correspondences with teen pages, and waiting to release them until it was politically advantageous.

In a letter to Pelosi, which also was sent to Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean, Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Georgia, asked them to disclose whether Democrats played a role in publicizing Foley's correspondences.

"Just as it must be determined whether any Republican members or political operatives were aware of and attempted to conceal Mr. Foley's activities, it must also be determined whether any Democrat members or political operatives were aware of and attempted to conceal these same activities," Kingston wrote in a letter signed by 10 other GOP lawmakers.

So the party in total control of the country is outraged that the party that has no control may have known something that the party in total control failed to act upon.

:rofl:

[Straight Shooter]

1. The mouse is swatting at the lion this time. n/t

[IDemo]

2. Stay tuned for "The Path to PageGate" n/t

[waiting for hope]

3. It's amazing how they are trying

to spin this - I've heard at least ten times in the past three days that Nancy Pelosi has marched in gay pride parades with the leader of Nambla either right beside her or marching in front of her.....too fucking unbelievable. Oh, I forgot, Hillary was there too! ;) I hope this will demonstrate how pathetic and desperate they are...they will say anything...oops, they do that anyway.

[Canuckistanian]

43. His name was Harry Hay - and he was never a leader of NAMBLA

In fact, he was never even a member. He did, however, give a number of speeches at NAMBLA meetings, mostly about gay issues and the need to organize gay groups.

He was widely considered to be the father of the gay rights movement, founding the gay rights Mattachine Society back in the year 1950, back when homosexuals were prohibited by law to congregate.

He was excoriated by the general gay community for his "inter-generational relationship" advocacy, but took he took pains to reject accusations of illegal pedophilia or coerced sexual relationships.

He was quite an intellectual and left activist at a time when it extremely dangerous to be one.

Read about him here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Hay

[ms liberty]

4. K&R...

"So the party in total control of the country is outraged that the party that has no control may have known something that the party in total control failed to act upon."

That sums it up pretty well...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kierkegaard]

5. Are these people completely unhinged?

Wait...don't answer that.

:eyes:

[KittyWampus]

6. what a bunch of tinfoil-hat-conspiracy theorists...

FREAKS!

Yeah, the Democrats knew all about Foley and kept it back cause they knew YOUR were keeping it back....

[City Lights]

7. ...

:crazy:

And nevermind that Faux had the story and chose to ignore it. :eyes: The repubiclowns are desperate. :nopity:

[Demobrat]

8. Can't wait to hear Dean's response.

:popcorn:

[cynatnite]

46. I'm sure he'll give one as soon as he stops laughing

Could be a while :rofl:

[babylonsister]

9. It's been repeatedly said that a repug released the beasts.

What is there not to understand about that? I guess that person's name will have to be released to quell the startled, disconcerted masses in the idiotic repug groupthink. :eyes:

[Erika]

10. Yeah, why didn't the Dems tell us Foley was a pedophile?

Hilarious beyond belief. They didn't even tell the lone democrat on the page board about the complaints they received about Foley.

Now they are blaming the democrats for their own incompetence? No wonder Iraq is so screwed up, as is everything else in this country.

Get rid of the GOP incompetents.

[mazzarro]

11. On the face of it

If I were Dean or Pelosi, I will reject the letter outright until this SOB addresses Dems correctly and appropriately. I will not tolerate him addressing Repukes as "...Republican members..." while at the same time addressing Democrats as "...Democrat members...". This damn insult has to stop and it must begin NOW!

[No Exit]

12. Latest Bin Laden tape has him taking credit for the Foley debacle

I think Bin vetted this plot in his last meeting with Howard Dean. (See whistleblower Joe Lieberman for details.)

[Nikki Stone 1]

14. LOL!

:)

[drm604]

36. If Bin Laden was a 16 year old page...

The Republicans would have found him by now.

[TahitiNut]

13. The GOP "know nothings" claim the Dems knew about it?

GOP pages. GOP predator. GOP leadership. GOP control of FBI. GOP notified several times in last 3 years.

The "party of responsibility" DID NOTHING!!

And they want Dora Doofus and Danny Dimwit to believe the Dems 'had the goods'???

Sadly ... there are millions of imbeciles who'll swallow this dessicated dog turd.

Chow down, shit-eating idiots. :grr:

[madfloridian]

15. Almost unbelievable, isn't it.

I love your post. You said it all much better than I could.

:headbang:

[ComerPerro]

22. I know. What the hell

For starters, what are the odds that Dems ever would have known about it? Moreover, if Dems did know about it, then how could the Republicans not have?

[Catherine Vincent]

16. That's just too funny, isn't it?

[Blue_In_AK]

17. That guy and some idiot from Georgia

were on Hardball spinning that line this afternoon. Those people have no shame.

[madfloridian]

18. I think I caught just the last part of that..

That picture of the GA guy looked familiar. Didn't see enough to know what it was about.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

19. Kingston's the idiot from Georgia; the other guy...

Patrick McHenry, is the idiot from North Carolina.

http://kingston.house.gov/
http://mchenry.house.gov/

I tuned in this evening and had to laugh - they're so transparent it's beyond absurd, but at least Tweety was calling them on it. Frick and Frack had that talking point DOWN! By testifying, Heavy D will be "exonerated," but Nancy and Rahm better look out! The sad thing is that I can hear one of my wingnut neighbors echoing the exact same talking point. If I run into her, think I'll suggest the lie detector test as mentioned above. That'll shut her up.

[peacetalksforall]

20. So Brian Ross is a liar. He said he got the information from

Republicans and Republicans won't believe him. It's all about finding out who betrayed the Republican plan to cover it up as long as they could through the election and swearing in, if not forever.

[ComerPerro]

21. Republican voters WANT to be lied to, they NEED to be lied to

[Touchdown]

23. Every recipient should say on TV the letter was meant for someone else.

Pelosi and Dean should punk the cable channels in a response (which they'll run red lights in their vans for), and claim...We recieved a letter that was obvously meant for members of something called The Democrat party. This is not us. We are members of the Democratic Party. So we need to return this, as the mail was erroneously sent to us and not it's intended recipients.

[bleever]

24. As my younger brother once said,

"The fox smells his own scent."

This story could be titled, "Party of Personal Accountability Holds Democrats Accountable for Not Holding Republicans Accountable on Accountability Issue".

[cui bono]

25. How do they keep coming up with this brilliant new material? n/t

[porkrind]

26. "partisan trickery"?

Oh, you mean like Ken Starr or the Iran Hostages? These assholes wrote the book.

:rofl:

[LeftCoast]

27. Pitiful, now they're trying the 'double standard' excuse

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas says:

"No Democrat demanded prescience from Speaker Tip O'Neill, and no Democrat shouted for his resignation. Neither did any Republican," Barton wrote. "The focus was on the members who created the problem, as it should have been and as it should be now."

while conveniently forgetting to add that Tip O'Neill didn't know about the problem for almost a YEAR unlike Hastert who at best did NOTHING. Rep. Barton, why are you defending a man who enabled a child predator?

[mykpart]

41. Barton is my congressman, and I just sent him an email.

[TexasLawyer]

28. The GOP had control of this information

for years and could have released it at any point.

[kster]

29. The Child Predator Enablers

have vowed to get to the bottom of this Child Predator story, but first they need to know if the Democrats knew about the story before the Republican enablers knew about the story, and if they held back any information.

Are they trying to investigate the Dem's? Or are they going to have a true investigation about the Child Predator and the Child Predator enablers?

I am at a loss for words, there is a sex crime going on in a house in you neighborhood, many neighbors have notified the local authorities, the authorities come out, find out that there is indeed sex crimes happening in that house, instead of the authorities arresting and or questioning everyone in that house, they pan out thru the neighborhood and start questioning the neighbors, as to why they have not spoken out about the crime sooner. I don't know where the hell I am going with this, but I really believe, that this tactic is not going to work for Hastert.

[madfloridian]

30. Well, you make more sense than their letter did.

I know I found myself going in word circles as well. But that is exactly what they are doing. They are twisting themselves into tight little knots, and when it all unravels they will be in pain.

[madfloridian]

31. Ok, now this is worse. Shimkus wants Pelosi and Durbin to apologize.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/breaking_news/15698850.htm

"WASHINGTON - Republican Rep. John Shimkus demanded Friday that two of Congress' leading Democrats apologize for what he said were accusations that he tried to cover up the Capitol Hill pages' scandal involving former GOP Rep. Mark Foley.

In interviews with news media outlets in his south central Illinois congressional district, Shimkus lashed out at a fellow Illinoisan, Sen. Dick Durbin, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California.

"People, like Sen. Durbin and Nancy Pelosi, who are using this for partisan gain, they ought to be ashamed of themselves," Shimkus said on WJPF-AM radio in Herrin.

Shimkus also said in an interview with The Associated Press that Durbin and Pelosi should read an anonymous statement released Thursday and attributed to the parents of the former Louisiana page whose Internet dealings with Foley led to Shimkus' involvement in the case. The letter does not mention Shimkus, Pelosi or Durbin by name but expresses the parents' desire to protect the privacy of their family and son.

"(Durbin and Pelosi) have helped inflame the rhetoric which caused this family that wanted to be left alone, to be put in the national spotlight," Shimkus said, saying the parents also deserved apologies from the Democrats.

Rather than apologize, spokespeople for Durbin and Pelosi counterattacked."

[madfloridian]

45. Wow, Durbin spokesman really did speak out.

"Durbin spokesman Shoemaker questioned why Shimkus had not called police, contacted the House Ethics Committee, convened a meeting of the page board or checked with other pages to see if the "alleged misconduct" was occurring with others.

"No. Instead he `talked' with the suspected offender, and proceeded to sweep it under the rug," Shoemaker said."

When I was teaching, there was a law about reporting any kind of suspected abuse. NOT proven, just suspected. We were required to report it to child care authorities...NOT to talk it over with the parents who might be involved, not to do the investigation ourselves. We could not even talk to our principals. My principal heard I was going to report something...still don't know how she found out. She called me in told me not to report it as they were influential in the community.

I told her I could be fired for not doing it, and I would forget she requested it. I reported it from my home phone. It was a good call. The principal later apologized to me.

You do not mess around when abuse of any kind is suspected.

[bunny planet]

32. Unfrieking believable.

Any letters to Faux news and the FBI as to why they sat on the story for a year and since July respectively??

No, I didn't think so.

[Crunchy Frog]

33. Hopefully the Dems will treat this

with the level of respect it deserves.

[Lugnut]

34. K&R

I would laugh if it wasn't so pathetic.

[symbolman]

35. Let's answer a question with a question here

"Don't you think that if WE KNEW about this and were going to release it in the last two years that WE WOULD HAVE released it right BEFORE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?"

Actually, better would be, "Would you like us to Trot out a page who's been penetrated by this man? No? Then SHUT THE FUCK UP." :)

Kind of simple.

I have one for them, "How goddam long was this going on while YOU KNEW? 10 years? 20?"

[LunaC]

37. Sorry, Pugs, trying to reframe the debate won't work this time

and only digs your hole deeper as far as public perception is concerned.

[slaveplanet]

38. These Asshats have really short memories

don't they.

Gee... sex scandal used for political gain.

Does that ring a bell asshats?


What they are really pissed about is... that it happened on the last day of session, and they got caught unaware and while they were all split apart. Like a neighborhood group of thugs, they'd much rather get busted all together so that the story can be kept straight and the intimidation factor can have more effect.

When they're picked off alone they are true "girly" men.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Our Response? "Sure Thing, OJ. Tell us when you find the real killers"

:rofl:

[Lasher]

40. I'm sure they won't mind putting Karl Rove on the stand.

Since it was their idea to have a dirty political tricks inquisition, how about if we swear Karl Rove in? There's a question or two I'd like to ask him. And there's some things I've always wanted to ask Poppy about his plot to stop Iran from releasing the American hostages until after he and Saint Ronnie were safely elected. Better get Junior scheduled too. And no, you can't sit on Darth Cheney's lap this time.

[mykpart]

42. How do we know some of the Dems DIDN'T call

Hastert 2 years ago? And maybe he just blew them off as Democratic spin. It coulda happened.

[deutsey]

44. Typical Rovian strategy: Attack your opponents strengths

If he pulled it off when he smeared Kerry's military service, this should be a piece of cake for hiim.

You'd think the Dems would have a strategy to retaliate against Rove's tactics...

:evilfrown: