PAY ATTENTION HERE: Bush's Mysterious 'New Programs'

[Jcrowley]

Bush's Mysterious 'New Programs'
By Nat Parry, Consortium News. Posted February 23, 2006.

Is the Pentagon building U.S.-based prison camps for Muslim immigrants? Evidence points to the possibility.
Not that George W. Bush needs much encouragement, but Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales a new target for the administration's domestic operations -- Fifth Columnists, supposedly disloyal Americans who sympathize and collaborate with the enemy. "The administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue Fifth Column movements," Graham, R-S.C., told Gonzales during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on Feb. 6.

"I stand by this president's ability, inherent to being commander in chief, to find out about Fifth Column movements, and I don't think you need a warrant to do that," Graham added, volunteering to work with the administration to draft guidelines for how best to neutralize this alleged threat.

<snip>

Labor camps

There also was another little-noticed item posted at the U.S. Army website, about the Pentagon's Civilian Inmate Labor Program. This program "provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations."

The Army document, first drafted in 1997, underwent a "rapid action revision" on Jan. 14, 2005. The revision provides a "template for developing agreements" between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations.

<snip>

The White House also is moving to expand the power of the Pentagon's Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA), created three years ago to consolidate counterintelligence operations. The White House proposal would transform CIFA into an office that has authority to investigate crimes such as treason, terrorist sabotage or economic espionage. The Pentagon also has pushed legislation in Congress that would create an intelligence exception to the Privacy Act, allowing the FBI and others to share information about U.S. citizens with the Pentagon, CIA and other intelligence agencies. But some in the Pentagon don't seem to think that new laws are even necessary.

http://www.alternet.org/story/32647/

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. There is no doubt in my mind people are gonna get rounded up, and that

included liberals just because they are left-leaning.

[MadMaddie]

3. It will happen if we don't win in November....

[SledDriver]

6. Rounded up, shit...

Just put a big-ass TV tuned to American Idol on a flat bed truck and 2/3 of the zombies in this country would go along willingly, trampling over each other to keep up with it.

[Dora]

10. I couldn't agree with you more.

I dare anyone on DU to quit watching television (quit it completely, get all of them out of the house) for a month. A MONTH. No compromises like "I'll only watch PBS, I'll cut off the cable and limit myself to network TV, I'll only watch DVDs..."

If a month seems too HARD, then how about a week?

Think smoking is addictive? Heh.

[Pied Piper]

18. It's been 4 years

since I got rid of my television. Haven't missed it a bit. Last spring I was on vacation, and I turned on the hotel TV. I couldn't believe what a wasteland TV has become - and I thought it was bad 4 years ago!

[Dora]

22. It's four for me too.

It's five if I include my first quitting attempt.

It was hard for me to quit, and now it's hard for me to watch. "Hard" in the sense that now, when I'm around television, I find it so invasive and distracting that it demands all of my attention, even if I'm with other people.

I hate television. It was a monkey on my back.

Do people defend their viewing habits to you when they find out you don't watch?

[Matariki]

36. isn't it funny how weird tv looks when you never watch it

my sister has hers on all the time and when i visit i'm riveted in dis-belief. i ask her how she can have it on all the time like that and she says "she can tune it out - and i'm obviously weak minded because i can't". However, her political & social opinions belie her ability to tune that shit out.

[Ravenseye]

43. My sister says that about her son

When we put the TV on, rarely, for our daughter she is GLUED to it. Put on Winnie the Pooh and she'll sit there for a half hour.

My sister's son bounces around and never watches anything for more than 5 minutes. My sister plays it off as if he's somehow superior because of it. I matured differently and dont' argue with her. However, she has that thing on constantly, and the kid is a hyper hypo. Watching it. Screaming. running. watching it...Basically acting how my daughter did when for a breif period we let her watch way too much television...

I think that the 'tune it out' concept is flawed. I think it becomes so pervasive that you might not notice it, or recognize it, but it's doing it's damage far more insidiously. I know that even I feel better about myself and my week if instead of watching TV every night I've .

Heck even just sitting out back by the firepit and watching the sunset and the stars come out makes you feel better than soaking up three episodes of House in a row...and I LIKE that show.

[LiberalEsto]

19. I once quit for nine years

back in the 1970s.

[Dora]

24. Well, heck... then do it again!!!

:hug:

[Ravenseye]

33. I got bored

It's not so much addictive as it is 'easy'. I've gone periods longer than a month without television. The cravings for television aren't really all that strong compared to smoking. Any craving for television after it's gone is more out of boredom than anything, and it just needs to be channeled into something different. Many people just don't know what to do otherwise.

I've been heavy into television at different stages of my life, only to have it gone for other stages. As long as you're busy while it's gone, you barely notice, if at all. For instance I went on a 2 week camping trip. Packed everything in. It was great. I don't even recall television coming up at all, other than part of a campfire game of charades.

I'm not defending television, but I'm not for an outright ban either. It's something that should be used in moderation, like pretty much everything else. The guy across the street from me is nuts and washes and waxes his car every day. He's psycho. That doesn't mean that washing your car is bad.

Yet I've noticed what it does to my daughter. The more television she watches, the more whiney and aggressive she becomes. She's two. If a half hour of Dora the Explorer (coincidence with your name ;) ) makes her a brat, then it's an issue. So she doesn't watch television at home. From when we get up in the morning, till she goes to bed at night, no television....except when we absolutely must have her glued to her seat for a half hour or something. If it does it to two year olds, it does it to adults as well, whether we notice it or not. It has to effect how we behave.

I think television's cruelest cut though has been to the social ability and outlets of all americans. Where people used to socially gather frequently, they don't anymore. Or at least not as much. I live in what was once a porch community which buzzed with people interacting on their porches when the whether permitted. It barely happens anymore, and hardly ever in prime time. The flickering blue glows coming from the first and second floor windows of houses bely the death of bowling leagues and regular card games.

Television isn't addictive. It isn't even probably all that bad for you. In reasonable amounts. When you have no social life though, and you gauge what day it is by "what's on tonight" you probably have a problem.

[conscious evolution]

42. Camp fire effect

That is what I call it.Ever notice how people seem to just stare into the fire.Televisions are just the modern day equivalent.Except that staring into a fire has a calming effect.Probably because a fire is basically the same image but with small variations in what you are see.TV,on the other hand, has constantly changing images and a sound track to boot.

[Dora]

47. Ease is part of addiction.

Is it hard to drink alcohol? No.
Is it hard to smoke cigarettes, or crack, or crystal meth? No.
Is it hard to snort cocaine or crystal meth? No.
Is it hard to inject heroin? For most of the population, yes.

This is why most addictions are with those substances that have a built-in ease of delivery. {With the exception of other drugs that users tend to self-moderate (marijuana and some hallucinogens, for example).}

The insidiousness of television is its ease. Your campfire anecdote illustrates how environment plays into addictive behavior. Take the viewer out of the using/watching environment, and the impulse to use/watch is not as strong.

I am a television addict. I didn't even have cable. Weeknights, from 5:30 until 11:00 or later, the tube was on each night. Weekends varied, but I'd estimate that it was on a minimum of 6 hours per day. The anxiety I felt on quitting was intense, real, and more severe than any depression-related anxiety I had experienced before. I crocheted insanely and mindlessly. I read novel after novel after novel (and I was already a voracious reader). I looked forward to washing my dishes by hand. I dreaded going home after work because I had no idea what do with my time. It was a good 1-2 months before I felt somewhat free of television. Even today, when I'm around a telvision set - I'm sucked right in.

I really am glad to hear that television is not a problem for you. For many people it is, and many don't realize how much of their soul has been benumbed by The Box.

[Clark2008]

41. I only watch Keith Olbermann - when I watch TV, that is.

Since I moved to my new house a month ago, there are days and days I don't watch any television - at all. If I do end up watching "My Name is Earl" and "The Office," it's because the hubby turns it on. I never even hit the remote.

If my TVs were were gone from my house, it would take me at least three days to even notice it and then, I'd just go to the web and find the Keith Olbermann on C&L and be just fine.

:hi:

[kineneb]

46. haven't had a TV in the house since 1979!

I moved away to college and could only afford a radio. I had TV service to my computer for a short while but could only afford to keep the cable modem. So, no tube here.

Gives me lots of extra time... to practice service music for my new church gig.

[Dora]

48. Church gigs can rock.

Good money, there, but lots of work. Congratulations!

[Dem2theMax]

58. I've done it. Also, no newspapers, no radio, nothing.

Total blackout. Did it while on a three month vacation (working vacation) in the High Sierra's.
It was wonderful. And it wasn't hard at all.

Of course I was living on my own then. Now I have other peoples in the house and they like the TV and the newspaper.

And if you are REALLY going to go cold turkey, the computer has to go as well. :evilgrin:

If I had high speed internetS, I would have no problem with no TV, no newspaper, and even no phone. I HATE the phone. But I live in the boonies and there is no 'high speed' anything here. Darn it.

[Dora]

60. Yah. The computer.

I hear ya.

We didn't have one at home for a period of time, but I've always had one under my nose at the office.

:hide:

[cyberpj]

17. Add beer or free food and you'll bet 3/4 ! nt

[Done]

45. Those people don't need to be rounded up. nt

[jberryhill]

15. It's a little tricky...

...to round up the majority of the population as, currently, that would define the magnitude of those who do not approve of this president.

[truedelphi]

23. After watching the Daily Show last night

I remarked (only half joking) I hope when the time comes that I get put
in the Jon Stewart Labor Camp.

[CoffeeCat]

52. How would they identify "left leaning"...

...people?

Would they take the obvious progressives and BushCo naysayers--like those in the media? Would they come and get Keith Olberman, Bob Woodward and those who have written anti-Iraq-war and anti-BushCo books?

Or, would they also come after those who belong to organizations such as anti-war-movement groups and progressive political groups?

What about DU posters...would they come and get us for our words online?

Just posing questions...

[bonito]

55. It's not going to happen. n/t

[madmusic]

2. I wonder if I'm guilty of treason.

Even if not, these laws do their job by introverting and thereby silencing me.

Well, maybe that would be true if I were a normal person.

[Dhalgren]

4. Well it looks like all of our "tin-foil" hats just turned into prison caps

I keep seeing that young Nazi wunderkind from the movie "Cabaret" singing "The future belongs to me!" Jesus..... :scared:

[savemefromdumbya]

31. they do that at the Republican conferences?

they have their little pages dressed in lederhosen

[jpak]

5. ChimpCo Prison??? The newest location for the next DU meet(round)-up????

:evilgrin:

[liberalmuse]

7. Not since the Viet Nam War protests...

and the McCarthy Era has America had so many 'terrorists'. It's funny how many Americans become 'terrorists' only when they're under an imperialist, facist, government which is actively defacating on The Constitution.

[Jcrowley]

9. Is this not fascism at least in it's nascent state?

Amnesty International deeply regrets that its appeal fell on deaf ears. The past five years have seen the USA engage in systematic violations of international law, with a distressing impact on thousands of detainees and their families. Human rights violations have included:
• Secret detention
• Enforced disappearance
• Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment
• Outrages upon personal dignity, including humiliating treatment
• Denial and restriction of habeas corpus
• Indefinite detention without charge or trial
• Prolonged incommunicado detention
• Arbitrary detention
• Unfair trial procedures

http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGAMR511542006

[bonito]

26. Aren't we freeing Iraq from all that? n/t

[nam78_two]

40. Its certainly the beginnings and seriously

for all those pooh-poohing it and saying people are being overly dramatic, I think its better people be "overly dramatic" than risk fascism....

Besides it doesn't have to be all that dramatic or theatrical...They can just be careless and not give a fuck and make callous mistakes and not be accountable etc.

Look at Mahed Arar's case...do you want to risk losing a year of your life being beaten and kicked about in some hellhole because some government thug made an "error"?

Bottomline is, without accountability these thugs can do as they please...

[The Animator]

8. Bring it on...

I intend to defend myself.

[EnviroBat]

64. Me too.

All of my armed friends as well...

[asjr]

11. Bush's "programs" are actually pogroms. He is

bound and determined to do away with all of us. And Lindsay Graham is an asshole!

[EVDebs]

12. Yes, I saw this reported earlier in DU and the question then was...

how, Constitutionally, were these programs initiated and paid for ? Congress allowed this excrement on their watch ? THIS ALONE requires the grown-ups, by this I mean Democrats, to retake Congresses two houses and initiate investigations and demand accountability.

Orders to Kill by Wm Pepper comes to mind...MLK Jr didn't stand a chance. Neither do we

[grasswire]

13. thank you

Very dangerous stuff.

My fear is that Rove-Cheney-Rummy will decide that a demonization of African-American Muslims will serve their purposes, and they'll deliberately start a race war. Groundwork for this has already been laid by conservative "opinion leaders" who consider U.S. prisons as schools for "islamo fascists."

[ryanus]

14. Yes scary. What I don't get

is how people can observe things like this happening, yet continue to believe the official story of 9/11. Connect the dots people.

[Gregorian]

16. Who is THE ENEMY?

Is it the one that was so unimportant that they ignored the briefings they were given?

And even if it was Bin Laden. That's one man. And he's dead. And if not dead, was he not on the CIA payroll?

Who is the enemy?

"The Enemy" sounds a lot like the republicans when they kept talking about "we", during the last election.

It sounds like it's "WE" versus "The Enemy". And I think I know who the enemy is. It is US.

[bobthedrummer]

37. There is a heuristic device from a USAF think tank that may be helpful

when translating what meanings these "notus" folks employ-as crazy as it sounds, it is the Rosetta Stone to a lot of what the "notus statements" convey imo.

Reframing Perception-Space (P-Space): A Quick Overview of a Unifying Concept
by Col. Michael McKim USAFR (ret)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc/reframing-p-space.htm

[Gregorian]

51. Oh my god. These people are fucking ROBOTS!

I read the first couple of lines of that link and...

Well, let me just say this- I'm simple. I don't lie. I don't conjure up constructed ideas. I just experience life. Birds. Trees. Wind. Light.

I recently called my very first girlfriend. She got a degree from Stanford in philosophy. She said something that was so foreign to me. She said she was still "processing" our email.

Maybe I'm retarded. I know I'm slower than molasses. But processing and creating auras of perception is so far from anything I will ever do.

Yep, the simple and stupid life is for me. Bike riding through the forest. Sometimes I think I'm the only one who is actually living on this planet.

[cyberpj]

20. THIS PART:

"But recent developments suggest that the Bush administration may already be contemplating what to do with Americans who are deemed insufficiently loyal or who disseminate information that may be considered helpful to the enemy. Top U.S. officials have cited the need to challenge news that undercuts Bush's actions as a key front in defeating the terrorists, who are aided by "news informers," in the words of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld."

CHALLENGE NEWS THAT UNDERCUTS BUSH - See here, it's going to happen:

US "invents" software to track press
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2866048

[schmuls]

25. Well if you believe the Alex Jones photographs he took of the

FEMA camps and of foreigners (think they were Germans) being flown into these sites, and consider the riots that will take place if gasoline goes too high, illegals keep coming in, dissidents are rounded up, etc. Then consider the possibility that the national guard will refuse to round up their own people. Then picture the fact that other countries are buying up farm land all over the place, and the picture isn't pretty. I think the Neocons want to destroy America as we know it, eliminate the middle class, selling out our holdings to other countries, and when the time is right, they'll just let non-Americans do their dirty work. The rich will direct the poor as slaves and the middle class will be gone...thus no-one to protest! I'll remove my tin foil hat now.

[resist_vote on paper]

30. Well thats cute

because you use the same terms like we do in Germany- only in the opposite direction.

Our facilities get sold to Americans- big houses with hundreds of apartments, once owned by the government, have been sold to hedge-fonds for a shaming price.
40.000 $ each apartment.

Big companies sell their property to American Hedge fonds and lease it back.

Did you know, that Americans own the canalization of Düsseldorf? Amazing, isn't it?

I wouldn't say anything against it, if only the basics would be equal, but they aren't. America prints money as much as it needs, and buys resources like drinking-water-facilities and real estates with, excuse me, worthless paper named dollar.

Of course I know, that YOU can not print the money, but the big ones can - and they do!

Thats why we all suffer the same shit. The big ones turn us into slavery, running in a hamster-wheel to be able to pay interest rates. Here and there.

It is absolutely urgent to take the money out of the hand of the FED, that would be a solution for more problems than you would think.

[file83]

56. Welcome to DU!

:hi: Hello Germany!

And I agree with you about needing to get rid of the Federal Reserve. It's a private Corporation disguised as a governmental entity that decides the fate of our nation, and the world.

[OzarkDem]

21. Milking Taxpayers for More Halliburton Graft

Using prison camps for Muslims as a "front" is just marketing and salesmanship to right wing voters. Extra bonus - ratchets up the fear factor.

[Rex]

27. Of course they mean Dems when they say enemy.

I wonder how many at DU they will round up and put to work in concentration camps? Laugh while you can.

[smoogatz]

28. Would those be the immigrant detention camps KBR was touting on its

website? The relevant press release appears to have been removed from KBR's website, but the story is here:

http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

[paparush]

29. They'll count the labor camps in the Unemployment Figures

and they'll point to how the econonmy is 'booming', and unemployment has shrunk 5%.

[bonito]

32. Better have my brand of coffee

Or else, heard the have indoor sports complete with water boarding.

Seriously, if we believe this will take place look at Baghdad, I don't think so, it's just another fear we can do without.

[chill_wind]

34. Listen to the language being used right out in the open.

"... not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue Fifth Column movements,"

[dogday]

35. The hair on my neck stood up when I heard Graham say this....

The administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue Fifth Column movements," Graham, R-S.C., told Gonzales during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on Feb. 6.

[Jcrowley]

38. They have been preparing this step by step

rather methodically and meticulously.

Every American school child is taught that in the United States, people have “unalienable rights,” heralded by the Declaration of Independence and enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. Supposedly, these liberties can’t be taken away, but they are now gone. Today, Americans have rights only at George W. Bush’s forbearance. Under new legal theories – propounded by Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito and other right-wing jurists – Bush effectively holds all power over all Americans.

He can spy on anyone he wants without a court order; he can throw anyone into jail without due process; he can order torture or other degrading treatment regardless of a new law enacted a month ago; he can launch wars without congressional approval; he can assassinate people whom he deems to be the enemy even if he knows that innocent people, including children, will die, too.

Under the new theories, Bush can act both domestically and internationally. His powers know no bounds and no boundaries. Bush has made this radical change in the American political system by combining what his legal advisers call the “plenary” – or unlimited – powers of the Commander in Chief with the concept of a “unitary executive” in control of all laws and regulations.

Yet, maybe because Bush’s assertion of power is so extraordinary, almost no one dares connect the dots. After a 230-year run, the “unalienable rights” – as enunciated by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and the Founding Fathers – are history.

Legal Analysis

The Justice Department spelled out Bush’s latest rationale for his new powers on Jan. 19 in a 42-page legal analysis defending Bush’s right to wiretap Americans without a warrant.

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/012406.html

[mmonk]

54. Look at this web site. They call CCR a fifth column law factory

http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6148

Spooky stuff. To them, everybody is either communist or a terrorist sympathizer.

[nam78_two]

39. Its interesting that Fifth Columnists refer to others as the Fifth Column

As per usual-Inhofe chairs the committee to protect the environment, Scalia protects the constitution, Foley takes care of missing and exploited children....:eyes:
Up is truly down and vice versa....

[tex-wyo-dem]

44. Appears that plans for "detaining citizens" have been around for a while..

The Rise of the National Security State: FEMA and the NSC

by Diana Reynolds


MILITARY RULE

In January of 1982, FEMA and the Department of Defense issued a joint paper entitled, "The Civil/Military Alliance in Emergency Management" which specified many of the provisions of Reagan's policy on emergency mobilization preparedness. This document indicates that FEMA had been given emergency powers to acquire resources from federal and state agencies (including National Guard personnel) and the private sector (banking, communications, transportation, etc.) "for use in civil disturbance operations."

Apparently General Frank S. Salcedo, Chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division and Giuffrida's former colleague at CSTI, wanted more. In 1983, in a workshop at the annual meeting of the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences, Salcedo recommended expanding FEMA's power further in the areas of survivability training, research on imposing martial law, and the potential threat posed by foreign and domestic adversaries. As he saw it at least 100,000 U.S. citizens, from survivalists to tax protesters, were serious threats to civil security.

Salcedo saw FEMA's new frontier in the protection of industrial and government leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as the prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion or a global audience in times of crisis.

<snip>

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

<more>

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_3.html

More at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4671967

[The Cleaner]

49. I KEEP SAYING We're Turning Into the Third Reich...

But apparently that opinion is "controversial..."

To me it is obvious and evident. People need to wake up.

[Jcrowley]

53. Give 'em the short list

and ask if they see any of this in America today.

From Laurence Britt:
1. Powerful and continuing nationalism
2. Disdain for the recognition of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. Supremacy of the military
5. Rampant sexism
6. Controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and government are intertwined
9. Corporate power is protected
10. Labor power is suppressed
11. Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections

I mean geez how could any other than the most blind not see these as characteristics that describe America circa 2006.

[formercia]

50. I would rather risk dying in a detention camp

than live under a theofascist dictatorship. Bring it on, Baby!.

[Jcrowley]

57. Another weapon to criminalize dissent

Ruthless Republican Dictatorship Arbitrarily Mandates Another Legal Weapon to- CRIMINALIZE DISSENT

this is a victory for so-called Al Quaeda types

"they hate us for Our Freedom's"

SO, lets take americans freedoms away
so they will like us, respect us, identify with us
and LEAVE US ALONE....

WE ARE TERRORIZING OURSELVES INTO TYRANNY !

hell-bent terrorists do NOT need to lift a finger
they are laughing their asses off,
The House and the Senate have given Bin-Laden A VICTORY!

the insidious, odious, anti-logic and implications of this
has been bugging me all day and for some time
when considering this:

The patriot achtung, executive order 1388, (among other affronts, "gives unnammed private entities the right to collect data on Americans") and this recent EVIL law,...claim!

one can be considered enemy, national security threat, detained if:
if deemed by The Whim of 'authorities' to be a threat to personnel, facilities, or broadly, INTERESTS of the UIS government, they can be wisked away to a secret place without a trace or clue as to why.!

(I am working on post that will highlight these provisions in these unconstitutional legislative weapons, mandated by the Inquisitors, with much more pissed off and sarcastic ranting, hopefull also.)


THIS IS NOT ABOUT PROTECTING AMERICA, KEEPING US SAFE

IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE RUTHLESS REPUBLICAN ONE-PARTY RULE,
and keeping their smug, selfishes asses safe from criticism and absole
them from the responsibilites of the results of their warmaking!

and protecting the uninterrupted flow of profits, to their cohorts in the defense contractor, iron triangle, Eisenhower warned about.

this is about putting a chill on free speech, criminalising dissent.

FOR WE ARE EITHER WITH THEM LIKE LEMMINGS, OR AGINST THEM AND...
THEREFORE: NOW! ILLEGAL !

for they can do NO wrong, it is not the authors, the architects, the premedited manipulation, with lies and deceit no less, the trigger pullers, the people who pulpified prisoners legs, etc, causing death...

it is not their fault that people of all 'sides' have been killed, that wars are being lost.

IT IS THE FAULT OF THOSE REFUSING TO GET ON BOARD WITH ILLEGAL, IMMORAL ACTIONS OF VIOLENCE, KILLING, DESTRUCTION, MAIMING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, UNILATERALLY, AGGRESSIVELY, when the whole world F15, 2003 protested to prevent this latest scourge of war.


Their is an intrinsic, basic human need/right! to understand and make sense of ones world !
WE HAVE INALIENABLE GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE IN THE WAY THAT BEST WORKS FOR US, IT IS THE DUTY OF OUR...HEARTS

we caring folk have a duty/right to openly freely speak simple truths to advance the possibilites of justice, peace and progress, health!

NOW it is a crime to be free, to be righteous, to be just
but IT IS NOW LEGAL to be an idiot, to be BAD!
for those who steal elections, to make draconian laws, that wouldn't pass in the middle ages.
THIS IS THE MOST MACABRE SOCIAL ENGINEERING EXERCISE IN THE PLANETS HISTORY, BAR NONE.

THIS IS LIKE SACRIFICING CERTAIN PEOPLE SO , THE FRIGGIN CROPS WILL GROW!

it is the actions and words of the Peace Activists, the internet journalists, the veterans and their families speaking out, The Gitmo Lawyer threatened with internment, because his client committed suicide, even though his legs were pulpified and the cause of death was stated heart attack.

IT IS the REPUBLICAN DICTATORSHIPS', CRITICS AND DISSENTERS WHO ARE CAUSING WARS TO GO WRONG AND CONSCIENCES TO FEEL GUILT AND LIVES TO BE SNUFFED, AT TIMES HORRIBLY, QUICKLY, GROTESTQULY, AND OTHER TIMES SLOWLY, METHODICALLY, PAINFULLY, SADLY AND

I N H U M A N E L Y.

I hate our Freedom to perpetuate sinful deceit, heinous violence, any 'type' of war, slow death of famine, and 21st century now, Festering of Pestilence.

[Amonester]

63. That's why ** must be stopped. And throw all unconstitutional...

signing statements, and all 'electronic voting machines' where they belong: in Boston Harbor!!

Also: THE CROPS WILL not GROW anymore if the indifference and 'do-nothing' attitudes in regard to fighting global warming persist at the highest level of the federal governement!

They MUST ACT NOW!

(Actually, they should have acted years ago...) :mad:

[meuniermr]

59. Slight of hand here??

{ "Template for developing agreements" between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations.}
This makes me think that possibly "real" criminals could be moved from prisons to the camps and the correctional prisons are actually where the dissidents are meant to go!

[bigbrother05]

61. civilian inmate labor

will be used as Guinea pigs, drug experimentation.

[Jcrowley]

62. Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps

Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
by Peter Dale Scott
February 6, 2006
Pacific News Service


Editor's Note: A little-known $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build detention facilities for "an emergency influx of immigrants" is another step down the Bush administration's road toward martial law, the writer says.

A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."

The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

To date, some newspapers have worried that open-ended provisions in the contract could lead to cost overruns, such as have occurred with KBR in Iraq. A Homeland Security spokesperson has responded that this is a "contingency contract" and that conceivably no centers might be built. But almost no paper so far has discussed the possibility that detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=%20SC20060206&articleId=1897

[Jcrowley]

65. Here's how it goes

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=6asuJ8XUBi8&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg28ngH9ezY&NR

Impeachable offenses?

[bobthedrummer]

66. And guess who the "legislative branch" of Rumsfeld's Pentagon

junta interfaced with, people like former House Intelligence Subcommittee on Human Intelligence Analysis and CounterIntelligence Chairman Randy "Duke" Cunningham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_%22Duke%22_Cunningham

and all those folks from Mr. Feith's "special" offices gave out contracts to so called private military companies (whose loyalty is not to defending, preserving or protecting anything but their own profit driven extreme ideology) that were paid for by stealing and manipulating our treasury, taxes and so called "budget"-not to mention "disappearing" what they stole into the black budget network.

So, to pathetically try to keep the treason and crimes of this unelected administration hidden there was a notice from the decider that makes anyone decided upon by these criminals and traitors in the criminal "special access programs" a terrorist, potential terrorist, or terrorist supporter via another one-year extension of the "national emergency" declared by the decider in Presidential Order 13224.

Here you are, citizens-more ground lost as "freedom is on the march" from fascism to totalitarianism
http://cryptome.org/pn092106.htm

[Jcrowley]

67. American Prison Camps Are on the Way

American Prison Camps Are on the Way
By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted October 9, 2006.

Kellogg Brown & Root, a Halliburton subsidiary, is constructing a huge facility at an undisclosed location to hold tens of thousands of Bush's "unlawful enemy combatants." Americans are certain to be among them.
The Military Commissions Act of 2006 governing the treatment of detainees is the culmination of relentless fear-mongering by the Bush administration since the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Because the bill was adopted with lightning speed, barely anyone noticed that it empowers Bush to declare not just aliens, but also U.S. citizens, "unlawful enemy combatants."

Bush & Co. has portrayed the bill as a tough way to deal with aliens to protect us against terrorism. Frightened they might lose their majority in Congress in the November elections, the Republicans rammed the bill through Congress with little substantive debate. Anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on Bush's list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies could be declared an "unlawful enemy combatant" and imprisoned indefinitely. That includes American citizens.

The bill also strips habeas corpus rights from detained aliens who have been declared enemy combatants. Congress has the constitutional power to suspend habeas corpus only in times of rebellion or invasion. The habeas-stripping provision in the new bill is unconstitutional and the Supreme Court will likely say so when the issue comes before it. Although more insidious, this law follows in the footsteps of other unnecessarily repressive legislation. In times of war and national crisis, the government has targeted immigrants and dissidents.

In 1798, the Federalist-led Congress, capitalizing on the fear of war, passed the four Alien and Sedition Acts to stifle dissent against the Federalist Party's political agenda. The Naturalization Act extended the time necessary for immigrants to reside in the U.S. because most immigrants sympathized with the Republicans.

The Alien Enemies Act provided for the arrest, detention and deportation of male citizens of any foreign nation at war with the United States. Many of the 25,000 French citizens living in the U.S. could have been expelled had France and America gone to war, but this law was never used. The Alien Friends Act authorized the deportation of any non-citizen suspected of endangering the security of the U.S. government; the law lasted only two years and no one was deported under it.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/42458/