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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:49 PM Original message |
"The facts on 'femicide'" - from the Guardian |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good article, but it's hatred of 'women' not 'females'. nt |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. and girls. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-04-06 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. kick |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. kick |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
5. I have a horrible feeling |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. "Too much capacity for abstract thought" LOL at such nonsense |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He wasn't denying it |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. well, I'm laughing at his exploration of an explanation or motivation |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. So what do you think causes it? |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
303. hatred of women is learned |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. as am I |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Read "The Murderer Next Door" by David Buss. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
74. What about this? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
153. start a separate thread on it. PHMT is not the topic of this one. n/t |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #153 |
206. It is relevant... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Using that terminology detracts from solving the problem |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
212. Probably the best post in the thread kia |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #212 |
218. Certainly my only good one. (n/t) |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
277. Excellent Post |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:56 AM Response to Reply #277 |
284. And once again here's a man... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:02 AM Response to Reply #284 |
287. ONce again |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
281. More men should do what my husband does |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. goes back to eradication of goddess culture, women as evil, patriarchal |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. When was the goddess culture wiped out? |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Read Chalice and the Blade by Riane Eisler |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I thought anthropologists thrashed that notion a while ago. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
81. It's history, including in the Bible (!) |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. The Bible is hardly a good source of history |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. while the re-created religions... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. That may be the source of my confusion |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #109 |
304. Ancient religions were a lot more complex... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #304 |
322. I don't know what |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 02:17 AM Response to Reply #322 |
323. I dunno... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #323 |
325. I suppose it's easy enough to find people you disagree with.... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #94 |
138. You might learn more |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
255. You really should read it and decide for yourself. You seem like an |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 01:58 AM Response to Reply #94 |
330. Of couse its not a history source... |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Let's talk about that biological imperative? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. If it's biological |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Does it ever occur to men that what women don't find attractive |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I wasn't talking about sexist attitudes |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
223. Actually, other species rape, too. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #223 |
234. I've heard of that too. Saw it on Discovery Channel (or similar) |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. But in general, in my experience women don't live this out.... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. "The Friend Zone" |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
101. And sometimes self-described "nice guys" are really |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #101 |
289. Exactly, Lydia, as is said below, from Usenet. |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #289 |
292. That is definately an interesting hypothesis... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:52 AM Response to Reply #289 |
293. That's exactly it! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Maybe the young women have been |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
305. maybe some women go for the alpha male because they are more |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
205. And meanwhile, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
256. Unfortunately, this is all too true. I learned pretty early that women say |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
95. Very true--no woman with an ounce of sense will stay with |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. But that's a failure to address the issue. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Coping with it |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. How do men cope with their "biological" proclivity for violence? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Totally agree with you on... |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
91. it is a bullshit cop-out. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #91 |
146. Well that's where many people go wrong |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
144. Genetically engineer it out of us |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #144 |
236. Margaret Atwood had a solution in Oryx and Crake |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:22 AM Response to Reply #236 |
290. Yes, I read it and remember that solution. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
278. Male on male violence |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:52 AM Response to Reply #278 |
283. Then maybe y'all should DO something about it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:00 AM Response to Reply #283 |
286. Deleted message |
VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #286 |
291. Talk about projection |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #291 |
294. Projection? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:01 AM Response to Reply #294 |
295. I am going to try to use small words... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:09 AM Response to Reply #295 |
296. Deleted message |
BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #295 |
300. NP |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #300 |
310. you say you were done "the minute [Velma] opened her mouth" |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #310 |
319. I was done |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. I don't believe it is biological... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
107. MIsogyny is taught -- like racism, homophobia, etc. |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 05:43 AM Response to Reply #107 |
272. If misogyny is taught, who is the teacher? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #272 |
321. Deleted message |
Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 10:35 AM Response to Reply #272 |
324. Excuse me, |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #324 |
326. I never read your post,but I think I know why. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-08-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #326 |
328. Except it wasn't true, |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-09-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #328 |
329. I'll break this down into simple sentences even you can understand. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
263. Agree |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. evidence of men's war against women and girls |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-07-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
327. Come on! People are at war with People. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. Hmm. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Apparently, men are at war with ourselves too. |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It depends |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. White, lots of names, Virginia |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. bring this, it'll help; |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I've declared myself an uniformed enemy combatant. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Good call. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Way to miss the point completely. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. There hasn't been such a tirade |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. If a OP brought up an article and discussion regarding violence |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I was trivalizing the responses to the thread. |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Thank you for illustrating my point. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. You think a phrase attacking people who agree with you is a good idea? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
100. Agree n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
99. Forget my post on another thread about how Progressive |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Since when are people here progressive? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
96. Oh, it'll happen... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
279. Whiny? |
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verse18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. What % of these murder victims |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Why does that matter? |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. but how many are killed BECAUSE they are men... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
19. How about if we call it a "war" against "the feminine"? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
77. To some extent |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. What if someone attacked you for being an American? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
177. Interesting take but we are to blame for the crimes that have been |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. I disagree. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. It's like being the captain of a ship, or CEO of a corporation. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #179 |
265. Forget my other reply, it is beside the point and I withdraw it. What you |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
37. What a ghoulish thing to do. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Isn't it possible... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Whoa, are you taking this a tad too personally? |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. What if we're trying to be part of the solution and are attacked anyway? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Then maybe you should take a step back... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Given that it was an OP, absolutely nothing |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Get it straight... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Well |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I find two of the three groups... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. How so? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I just don't think you do yourself any favors... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. No, it's not. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I have to disagree with you... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. I wasn't saying it was more common |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
185. And you wonder why these issues can't be discussed on DU |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #185 |
204. And that goes both ways. nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
103. Me too... why do the responses on threads like these continue to |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. When you are discussing misogyny, I think males need to |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Totally agree and I would add... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #73 |
194. I agree! nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
92. I've never seen a woman on DU or IRL attack a man |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #92 |
110. Which is exactly why I was attacking the "men at war with women" rhetoric |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
45. What An Absolutely Silly And Misguided Premise. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. So, what can be done to address the issue? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. You're Asking How To Erradicate The Act Of Murder? |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Haven't seen either. Please do tell. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Well, |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Thanks for the synopses. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
229. Unless I'm mistaken, these are movies, right? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Whoa. Talk About Misreading Context ROFLMAO! |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. some interesting stats in there |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. And what's the percentage of |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Don't Change The Subject Just Cause The Original One Was Obliterated. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It's not "ridiculously false" |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. the problem with breaking it down... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I think you're missing my point. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. SO you agree there are underlying issues... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
162. The underlying issue is partiarchal heteronormativity |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #162 |
189. And maybe that tendency for violence against non-conformity |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Hey, You're Entitled To Your Opinion. I Find The Premise To Absolutely Be |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
193. Deleted message |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Do You See The Moderator's Message Below? Please Read It. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. Get beyond the statistics |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Far More Men Are Specifically Targeted For Violent Crime Based On Their |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Ok...so let me see if I've got this straight... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. Same Reasons Why Some Women Hate Women, Hate Other Men, And |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. I hope your estimate... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
105. About 16,700 Murders A Year, 88% By Men, Male US Population 140,000,000. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. to do the math would require... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #111 |
119. Ummmm, That's Right There In The Header. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. that's assuming one perpetrator... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. From A Mathematical Standpoint And Margin Of Error, It Would Still Come |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. the next step is to account for it being... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. But let's get beyond the statistics. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. The OP already said it: |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. And I Think It's Been Shown That Malicide Is Far More Prevalent. |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. You don't seem to be comprehending the point |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:08 PM Original message |
Actually, Oddly Enough, It Appears You Have Failed To Comprehend The Point |
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QuestionAll... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
125. good grief. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Stay Focused. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. actually the focus was on both... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #135 |
154. Wrong. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. way to conveniently ignore... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #155 |
161. Stop The Semantics. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:13 PM Response to Reply #155 |
168. yEAH! sTOP tHE sEMENTICS!! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. Mind Providing Anything Of Substance Omega? |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #89 |
133. what % of men were killed by women? forchristssake, cop to it already, why |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Uhhhh, Maybe You Should Read. My Arguments Have Had Nothing To |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
143. I don't like facts. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:04 PM Response to Reply #143 |
166. Life is like a box of Truthiness |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. Well At Least The Poster Knows What He's Gettin Here. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #167 |
230. Why does it seem to be your mission to march in and dominate |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #230 |
238. there's always some interesting psychology... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #238 |
240. You Mean Like The Psychology Of Seeking Truth? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. It's not thinly veiled at all... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #243 |
247. Here, I'll Correct That Statement For You: |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. Thank you for proving my point... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #250 |
253. How Could I Prove A Point You Didn't Have? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #230 |
239. Because The Premise Was Completely Faulty. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. The simple fact is... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #242 |
245. Show Me Any Link Below That Contains Data On 'Femicide' Please. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #239 |
269. No Actually What I Aksed Was |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #230 |
262. And you've added soooo much to this discussion |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #262 |
270. Wow can't believe BOTH you and mindcrime are here at the same time |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:32 AM Response to Reply #270 |
273. hohoho |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
118. Men are rarely targeted because of their gender |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
196. Most excellent post Tansy |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:15 PM Response to Reply #196 |
217. A good point, Mongo, one that is brought up in a most |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. But I'm not talking about soldiers killing soldiers |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #220 |
237. If you will recall in Kosovo... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #220 |
241. Yes, it is targetted murder, but not because of their gender |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:36 PM Response to Reply #241 |
260. Look at these two examples |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #241 |
297. Brillian post, Tansy. Thank you for being here. eom |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #241 |
308. Richard Speck |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #241 |
309. Please explain the contradiction. |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #118 |
222. That's a great post |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
88. Did you actually look at those stats? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Oh Don't Act So Naive. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
102. I'd say the woman |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #93 |
104. But that man in your story was not murdered because he was a man... |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
187. Only impossible for SOME males |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. *Sigh* |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. If it's a cultural norm to believe... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
115. You Couldn't Be More Wrong On That Issue Either. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. What dream-world do you live on... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Ummmm, It's Called The World Of Today. Not The World At Some Point In |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. I will paraphrase you... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #128 |
140. It's shocking, really |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #140 |
173. Marital rape is now a "crime" in all 50 states, but it wasn't |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:51 PM Response to Reply #173 |
182. There are still marital rape exemptions in 30 states |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #120 |
126. I think he lives in OppositeLand n/t |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Men are far more the VICTIMS of Domestic Violence than women? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #131 |
152. Not Making Anything Up. Here's A Good Place For You To Start: |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #152 |
192. Um, actually, no. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #192 |
199. Ohhhhhhh, Ya Want More? Here's Plenty. |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #199 |
207. aren't you embarrassed yet? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. Why Would I Be? I've Provided Data. Have You Provided Any Femicide Data? |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #208 |
213. Data... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. How Bout You List Any. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:17 PM Response to Reply #199 |
268. Bullshit OMC. It was/is YOUR job to provide one of those sources |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #131 |
226. Oh, this old meme again... *sigh* |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Here Ya Go. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:55 PM Response to Reply #115 |
225. Um |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #225 |
227. Um |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #227 |
233. How does that dispute anything I've written? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #233 |
244. Wow. I Mean, For Real? You Really Don't Know? Did You Not Even Read Any |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #244 |
246. This is exactly what I was talking about... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #246 |
249. Where? What Stats? Where Are They? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #244 |
312. Uh-huh |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #312 |
318. Three Things. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #227 |
264. Fiebert |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
108. You changed the subject with 'intent to rob'. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. It Is A False Epidemic. Show Me These Current Factual Stats Of Women |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. Why should anyone show you anything... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:36 AM Response to Reply #123 |
274. A serious query for you, Velma, and Tansy |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #274 |
311. Nice Set Of Slanderous Lies You've Got There. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #311 |
314. one need only look at your first post in this thread... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #314 |
317. Prove The Opinion Wrong. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. You'd like to see stats that validate a 'false notion'. lol |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #127 |
134. Nope. It Is The Absence And Inability To Produce Them That Validate The |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. That's not even one of your better tries, OMC. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
156. It Was A Pretty Concise, Direct And Factual Statement Dear Lars. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #156 |
164. I don't think you're educable on anything to do with women. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. Stop The Nonsense Attacks And Provide Some Facts. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #165 |
181. I just don't feel like feeding you right now, OMC. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. But You Did, Until You Were Required To Provide Facts. Yeah, Facts.Them. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Actually, I corresponded until I ran out of energy. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. Well, When You Regain Your Energy, Some Facts Would Still Be Appreciated. |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #191 |
202. Don't you know.... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #202 |
209. LOL |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:01 PM Response to Reply #45 |
266. Uh, what is the percent-gender of those whom COMMIT murder??? |
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TAPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
282. Guess you checked out that site after all. |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
79. Women have PMS and post-partum depression... |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes, and there are networks of support for these issues, too. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #79 |
114. Women with PPD don't murder anyone, nor those with PMS |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. If I may... how is that not murder? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
113. All I have to say to you men who are SO indignant about this article is |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
136. Thank YOU! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
141. Way to boil it down, LL |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #113 |
145. So what about when we're told that all men are waging a war on women? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. Well, at least some of the fundamentalists will admit... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. I figured it was clear that I signed on to the notion that SOME men were. |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. I'm going to try to be honest with you... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #151 |
160. Then why the hell are we still doing this civilization thing? |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. That was and is kinda the whole point... |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
170. Unfortunately we won't get people to realize anything |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. OK...I'm really fucking depressed now |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
203. I'll admit |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. The article doesn't say that |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #148 |
157. You're right - the article doesn't |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. welcome to the world of women... |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #159 |
172. It's not all it's cracked up to be |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. That's not what you are being told |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #150 |
158. Not in this thread |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #158 |
184. Yeah, well, that was ANOTHER THREAD |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #184 |
219. Thanks for trying to bring light to the subject. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #219 |
267. I guess I have to plead guilty, bloom, |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
175. There it is! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Wrong Topic. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #176 |
198. I could |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:09 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. I Have. My Conclusion Is That The Premise Is Completely False. |
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Kire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
142. Question? |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #142 |
299. Systematic racially motivated murders are called genocide |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
169. Misogamy or sexism? Does it matter? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
178. Hi all. Just a reminder about DU civility guidelines: |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
190. I've been pointing out for years that men target women all too often |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
195. What a lovely thread! |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #195 |
211. Silly me! |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #211 |
316. Power to the People! nt |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:04 PM Response to Reply #195 |
216. Good points |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #216 |
221. Exactly |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #221 |
248. The difference is in the kind of power |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #248 |
258. power to - power over |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #248 |
320. Thank you |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
200. The OP has taken a bunch of isolated incidents and labeled |
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L A Woman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #200 |
210. Oh. My. God. |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #210 |
215. So innocent men being rounded up and executed in war |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #215 |
224. They were rounded up because they were potential fighters on the |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #224 |
232. Ah, but you can't have it both ways |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #232 |
235. And, as I later added, keeping the women of these ethnic groups |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #235 |
251. Most of the women were released |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #251 |
252. gee...color me stunned... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #251 |
254. I'm trying to think of an incident in which women captured a bunch of |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #254 |
302. Changing the subject again |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #251 |
257. Not true at all |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #257 |
259. There was also the role of NATO and DynCorp with that. |
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mongo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #257 |
301. Changing the subject again |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #301 |
313. The subject of the post: |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #215 |
288. they were murdered because they were the perceived "enemy" |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-05-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #200 |
261. But, the issue is not about numbers, nor is it about who is rounded |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #261 |
271. And in what culture |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #271 |
315. Amen!!! nt |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:46 AM Response to Reply #200 |
276. That was targeted ethnicity, not gender |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:40 AM Response to Reply #200 |
280. No, that was called "genocide" |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 07:56 AM Response to Reply #200 |
285. so you take another isolated incident to make your point. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
275. Ah the Perennial Male conspiracy to kill women nut jobs |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
298. Some final thoughts on this subject... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #298 |
306. Yes - How dare women be angry |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-06-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #298 |
307. Well it may be annoying |
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