lieberman just said something that stunned me!

[ellenfl]

i was so taken aback that i'm not sure what he was commenting on but i think it was the reports that the admin knew how bad katrina would be prior to landfall. he said (and i'm paraphrasing), 'it would be like the intelligence community finding out, a couple of days before 9/11, that terrorists planned to attack in the u.s. using airplanes".

huh? pdb, anybody?

ellen fl

[SmokingJacket]

1. Did he say that on purpose, to make a point?

Or is he just ignorant?

[MrSlayer]

2. Hmm.

Is he saying that didn't happen before 9/11 or is he being snarky?

[elehhhhna]

3. Just sticking to the Reep partyline.

[Jacobin]

4. Poor Joe. He opens his mouth and unintentionally

indicts those he is trying to support.

Out to pasture with you Joe.

We've had enough

[Surya Gayatri]

11. Irony of ironies

He steps up to service his Repub buddies and inadvertently supports the LIHOP theory. Connecticut deserves better! SG

[Swamp Rat]

12. It sure seems that way.

Open jaw, insert claw.

[leftchick]

18. Swampie, Joe is no longer a wanna be

He Is a Lizard!

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

26. I love your sigline message and pic.

SAVE THE WHALES!!!!!

... and the humans too! :D

[leftchick]

27. god SR!

warn me please... :puke:

[Surya Gayatri]

28. Eeeeeewwwwwwww! Just what are

those mysterious spots, Swamp? Some unmentionable disease or a fatal case of acne? Especially revolting with the orange hair on top. :rofl: SG

[jsamuel]

5. wow... not really sure what to say...

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[TallahasseeGrannie]

6. I don't get it

I knew that New Orleans was going down two days before the hurricane. Anybody who lives down here and watches the weather channel and follows it online knew that this storm was the big one. We were astonished that there was anything left the next morning and there was that few hours of euphoria that it was still there, and then the water rose.

Of course he knew.

He had no information the rest of us didn't have, and he didn't have a crystal ball or anything. BUT WE ALL KNEW. Of course, he hadn't yet seen the DVD.

[malaise]

9. See Kerry's response and the WP link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x230261

[Jeanette in FL]

7. OMG

I didn't think anything Joe Lieberman would say would take aback. But that comment is unbelievable. Hello, Joe, what the hell do you think we have been saying out here. My Lord.

[Sequoia]

8. Is this what you heard?

The White House is crippling a Senate inquiry into the government's sluggish response to Hurricane Katrina by barring administration officials from answering questions and failing to hand over documents, senators leading the investigation said Tuesday.

In some cases, staff at the White House and other federal agencies have refused to be interviewed by congressional investigators, said the top Republican and Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. In addition, agency officials won't answer seemingly innocuous questions about times and dates of meetings and telephone calls with the White House, the senators said.


A White House spokesman said the administration is committed to working with separate Senate and House investigations of the Katrina response but wants to protect the confidentiality of presidential advisers.


"No one believes that the government responded adequately," said Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn. "And we can't put that story together if people feel they're under a gag order from the White House."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/01/24/national/w142220S44.DTL

[rodeodance]

10. Wolf showed a clip of Lieberman today--who said Jr was dragging his

feet on the investigation.

[rodeodance]

13. actually they had a pretty good segment on this issue (new WH memo)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

16. Could it be that Lieberman is feeling the heat, of being challenged for

his seat? :shrug:

I'm a poet and wasn't even aware of it...

[ellenfl]

23. here is the quote . . .

Lieberman says it couldn't be worse if the White House had dropped the ball on a pending attack, reports Roberts.

"It's as if two days before 9/11, an intelligence unit at the Department of Homeland Security said America's about to be attacked by terrorists flying airplanes," he said.

and source . . . Page 2

ellen fl

[applegrove]

14. Neocons have a long history of "liking strife". They think the more

the better. Indeed - the poorly planned war in Iraq may have more to do with snuffing the radicalism & militarism out of the average Iraqi than actually trying to win a war. Sending in too few troops meant a long & nasty war. Not a pretty one. And, the neocon hope may be, to snuff out any aggression in Iraqis..just like WWI and WWII did to Europe.

If this is true - it does mean and long and nasty war in Iran, Syrian are next.

In Ontario - the neocon Mike Harris came into power and instituted immediate welfare reform including cutting shelter allowances for those on welfare by 1/3. And they gave people 6 months to find new places to live. You and I can figure out that people will have to break leases in 6 months to find a new place. Apparently neocons convieniently forget strategic details like that. Or they like the civil strife and what it teaches the "others". Mike Harris had a 5 year mandate and instituted these radical change within weeks of getting a majority in 1995. So why not give people an extra 6 months - say 18 months to adjust to a new form of welfare where you cannot possibly have your own basement apartment.. but must double up. I am not agreeing with the policy.. but simply taking note of the "outcome of mayhem" the neocons seem to add into the timeline and troop numbers ... the new assumptions...that they never talk about.

And then Nero fiddles.

Katrina is the same thing. Oh yes - those people were in a bath-tub waiting to happen. Poor & corrupt enough that proper levies were not prioratized. Alot of "Naw - Category 5 will never hit". But when it did and it looked like there was a 50/50 chance that at least a category 4 would hit... and that meant a 50% change the city would flood and be sunk... why did Condi go shopping, Bush staffers play "send us a list" to the Governor when she begged for "everything you got". Why did they not break through any and all obstacles to get the resuce party rolling?

Neocons like mayhem. It is part of the the goal. They think mayhem makes for better people. Or something. Haven't quite got it all figured out quite yet. But it is pretty sick.

IMHO

[oasis]

15. That's Joe. Full of bluster and bull just before going through the motions

of an investigation. He was committee chairman during the Senate hearings on the Enron scandal. 'nuff said.

[wordpix2]

22. geez, you'd think Joe would have gone after Enron since it stole from CT

$225 million, that is, under former Gov. John the Con Rowland

[oasis]

24. That's just it. Joe did go after Enron, but he did it HIS way. BTW, did

anyone catch how much time Ken Lay got at his sentencing?

[ellenfl]

29. the trial is over? eom

[oasis]

30. Lay's running around, free as a bird. That's my point.

[wtmusic]

17. That's it. Joe's not french kissing Dubya ever again. nt

[burythehatchet]

19. you'd think the idiot was trying to hang on to his seat nt

[kohodog]

20. I called his office on Alito today

And the staffer wasn't exactly warm to my pleading (rationally) for a filibuster. Joe has gone to the dark side. More republicans like him than dems in CT, so maybe the dems can turn him out to pasture in the primary.

[wordpix2]

21. first * warned with Aug. pdb and then * warned about Katrina levees before

storm hits. BushCo does nothing. But Lieberman supports * and doesn't know about the Aug. 2001 pdb?

Another reason to vote Lieberman out, if we get a good choice.

[Generator]

25. Except with Katrina they just didn't give a shit

Where with 9/11- it was a win win win for them.