Soft Tissue Recovered From T-Rex Thigh bone

[alfredo]

Take that you creationist!

http://www.calacademy.org/science_now/headline_science/T-rex_soft_tissue.html





A scanning electron microscope revealed that the dinosaur blood vessels, which are 70 million years old, are virtually identical to those recovered from modern ostrich bones. The ostrich is today’s largest bird, and many paleontologists believe that birds are the living descendants of dinosaurs. Scientists may be able to confirm this evolutionary relationship if they can isolate certain proteins from the recently discovered T. rex tissue. These proteins could also help solve another puzzle: whether dinosaurs were cold-blooded like other reptiles or warm-blooded like mammals.

[StellaBlue]

1. WHOAH.

Now, THAT is fascinating.

I am getting into this whole "science" thing lately.

:)

Thanks for posting this amid all the Foley threads.

[alfredo]

15. We needed a break from all that.

I will have to show this to my creationist Sister in Law.

[WCGreen]

2. God planted that tissue to encourage the evil doers......

[HysteryDiagnosis]

30. Mmmmm..... mebbe Satan made these bones just to confuse

the poor humans striving to understand just how things came to be?

[Greyhound]

3. Words cannot express how grateful I am that you posted this.

A discovery that a.) Actually matters and b.) isn't more bad news showing us how horrible we are.

Pathetic though they may be, THANKS!:hug:

Yipee, I get to make the 5th recommendation too!

[mikelgb]

4. wow

it was still stretchy... amazing

[alfredo]

34. Imagine how many other bones have such

info still inside them.

[BrotherBuzz]

5. Looks like chicken

:shrug:

[bleever]

13. But probably needs to be marinated.

[displacedtexan]

81. Brined.

Then marinated.

Yum.

[KansDem]

103. Oh, I don't know. Some good Kansas City barbecue sauce...

...could do wonders.

:9
:)
:(
;(
x(
:puke:

[okasha]

16. But does it taste like chicken?

Class Aves is also warm-blooded, of course.

[BrotherBuzz]

25. Lets get Mikey. He won't eat it. He hates everything

He Likes It! Hey, Mikey!

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. !

:spray:

[kineneb]

57. Ever look at a chicken's legs and feet?

I sometimes call Henrietta the Chicken by the name "dinosaur feet" because, well, her feet and legs look like they belong on a dino. Those who are in denial about evolution have never looked at chickens closely.

Someday, I will post a photo of our wonderful pet chicken. She is sitting on my lap right now.

[4_TN_TITANS]

75. Interesting point....

I've always noticed how my chickens run just like I'd imagine a dinosaur would. And, they aren't quite as stupid as some may think..

[originalpckelly]

6. Just formations in rocks. WOW! That is a hell of impressive thing!!

I say clone the son of bitch. Can you imagine how fucking cool it would be to have a pet dino?

[hobbit709]

9. You want a pet tyrannosaurus???????

[originalpckelly]

18. You know it would be cool to be the first person to be eaten by a dino...

that would definitely get you in the history books. :-)

[hobbit709]

21. OK You get in the history books

I'll read the history books. Like the line in Jurassic Park II "I used to like dinosaurs, until they tried to eat me"

[kestrel91316]

63. That's so NOT TRUE. It used to happen all the time back in

Jesus' day, silly.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

66. a mini-tyro

rich girls will carry them around in little tyro-purses and shit.

[raccoon]

76. I want one! And I'll turn it loose, hungry, at the next Republican

convention.

[petronius]

90. Sounds like animal abuse to me

You'd have the poor thing begging to go back into extinction...

:)

[raccoon]

100. Good point, Petro. Nt

[Recursion]

12. Hmmm.... yeah....

I say clone the son of bitch.

Hmmm... can I add a heartfelt "no!" to that?

[Hissyspit]

7. "Jurassic Park" here we come!

or not.

[GreenPartyVoter]

45. Yah *l*

[BuyingThyme]

8. You Dems and your Human-Rex hybrids...

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. That is fascinating!

Thank you for posting this........

We really need some hard science news amid all the political hoohaa....

Especially something that shows up the damn creationists!

K&R

[Nitrogenica]

11. WOW...this should be big news.

I hope this get's covered by the MSM, it's a historic find.

[Bluebear]

14. BURN THEM IMMEDIATELY!

:crazy:

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

17. That's impossible!

Everyone knows the Earth is only 3000 years old...

And babies come from storks...

And Santa lives at the North Pole...

And George Bush is The Greatest President Ever...

And Saddam had WMD...

[RebelOne]

88. Yup, so say the fundies. Dinosars were too big to take onto Noah's ark.

That's why there aren't any today.

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=277868

[yurbud]

19. yeah, but how does it TASTE? you're making me hungry

[alfredo]

38. If it was a carrion eater, it probably didn't taste that good.

[yurbud]

43. even after being finely aged for 17 million years? like a fine wine?

[alfredo]

46. Like Twinkies.

[yurbud]

48. ahhhh, the '54 Twinkie blanc...

[alfredo]

51. Goes good with Ovaltine.

[yurbud]

53. is that when a republican likes roundish boys? Oval teen?

[alfredo]

59. More cushion for pushin'

[yurbud]

67. kind of like this sowbelly? (PIC)

He makes Ned Beatty in Deliverance look like Vin Diesel.

[alfredo]

70. I'll leave him for

Jeff Gannon.

[yurbud]

71. we know who's the hillbilly and who's the pig in that relationship

[alfredo]

74. If that's their thing, fine, just be honest about it.

[yurbud]

91. I agree. It only seems to twist people if the bottle it up and beat up

other people publicly for what they themselves do privately.

[alfredo]

93. Secrets are like prisons.

[yurbud]

98. I tried to live completely without them for a while in high school

it was very liberating, and even though I was never embarrassed, other people wasted a lot of time freaking out or gossiping when I gave them straight answers to questions, or holding things against me that nearly everyone does but only I would admit, so I stopped.

One time I was applying for an RA position with my dorm, and in the interview, they asked what my greatest weakness was. I said I get depressed, but it only limited me from initiating things with other people some of the time, and I could always react appropriately to problems people brought to me. I knew one of the other RAs on the hiring committee was more of a morbid sullen fuck than me--I was Mary Poppins compared to him, but it didn't matter. If most people admitted something like that, what they would really mean is they have been hospitalized, suicidal, and delusional, but somehow managed to make it to the interview.

I didn't get the job.

Now I would say some variation of the bullshit interview answer, but I don't think I tell those kind of lies with enough conviction. The can probably see it on my face--I feel sad not that I have to do the little charade, but they have degraded themself by asking me to lie.

[alfredo]

102. When I was called for jury duty I tried an experiment. I decided

to be completely honest. I got excluded from every case. They didn't want an honest juror.

[kestrel91316]

64. No, no............like Peeps, when you take the wrapper off and let them

sit a couple of days to partly dry out and get REAL chewy.........

[alfredo]

77. What a vivid picture

[proud patriot]

20. how cool is this

:headbang:

[Duppers]

22. DNA??

Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if they could clone this doozie?

Talking about rocking the fundie world then.

Great post, thank, alfredo.

[alfredo]

28. Clone a T Rex? Imagine having to clean up after it?

I love that it is almost identical to the Ostrich.

[Duppers]

36. the Jurassic Park zoo keepers could do that!

;)

[alfredo]

41. They'd need a backhoe.

[kestrel91316]

65. Ostriches are pretty wicked. Maybe they are the closest living relative

of the T. rex, eh??

[alfredo]

86. The Cassowary looks very much like a dinosaur

They've been known to kill humans.

[girl gone mad]

35. They don't believe that DNA would still be present in the tissue.

But, then again, they didn't believe that soft tissue could have been preserved inside dinosaur bones for so long.

[Duppers]

37. darn

Perhaps some day.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. And it tastes just like Chicken!

Urk, someone in the thread already beat me to it. Late to the party, as usual.

Shit, that's cool. Really, really amazing.

[salin]

24. God faked it and made it that way to trick you.

;-)

Attempt at predicting a fundie's smug explanation.

[chat_noir]

26. lol@FReepers

Free Republic Opinion Poll: Do you think creationism or intelligent design should be taught in science classes in secondary public schools as a competing scientific theory to evolution?

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=160;results=1


The battles between the evolutionists and creationists are a lot of fun.

[hvn_nbr_2]

42. God put those proteins there to test your faith. nt

[NoodleyAppendage]

29. Here will be the typical retort to evidence..."I don't believe it."

How can you expect peoples who believe in mythical cloud beings to be logical or accept evidence contrary to their mass delusion?

This evidence of evolution, if borne out, will simply be ignored by the Christofascists. And, they will then target the scientist or institution who dare to provide prima facie evidence of evolution.

J

[DemInDistress]

31. if they could only cross breed that T-Rex DNA with a Democrat

we'd never lose another election..

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

85. Where do you think Zell Miller came from?

[troubleinwinter]

32. Fantabulous. Thanx!

[jmowreader]

33. Clone it and send it to Crawford, Texas

It would solve a LOT of problems.

[earth mom]

39. Wow! Simply Amazing!

Can't wait to find out more! :bounce:

[mikelgb]

40. But tissue could not possibly survive that long...

6000 years tops....

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

78. You surely mean 6010 years, yes? -nt

[Canuckistanian]

44. Soft? Meaning pliable? Wet, even?

Or is it just an "impression" of once soft tissue?

[alfredo]

49. They said it would stretch. My impression is that it is

somewhat rubbery.

[Ediacara]

61. it's quite pliable

it's stretchy, soft, somewhat rubbery. Imagine the veins in cooked chicken and you'll get an idea.

[alfredo]

68. Like overcooked Calamari?

[Akoto]

47. No wonder ostriches are so ornery.

They're not trying to peck you to death, they're trying to eat you! ;)

[donco6]

50. No kidding.

That scene in "Dude Where's My Car" is not completely inaccurate! Ha!

[BlooInBloo]

52. Can they make one? Can they make one?

[mod mom]

55. don't give bu$h any ideas.

[BlooInBloo]

56. (sigh) I *never* get *anything* (pout)

:rofl:

[rug]

54. Foley isn't interested in seventy million year olds.

[yellowcanine]

58. good point. heh, heh heh (does Bush like body shake chuckle)

[Ediacara]

60. What's funny IMHO, is that Mary Schweitzer, the scientist who discovered

this stuff is an evangelical Christian. She also thinks that creationists are mind-numbingly stupid and hates that they misrepresent her work as somehow supporting creationism.

[Nevernose]

62. More proof that the Earth is only 7,000 years old

How else could soft tissue have survived?

My creationist theory is that, previous to everything 7,000 years ago, God misplaced an exponent when he was doing his scientific notation.

"7 times 10 to the 6th? SHIT! I meant 7 times 10 to the THIRD. Stupid TI calculator! Ross Perot, you are hereby cursed for SIX -- I mean THREE -- generations!"

[Random_Australian]

72. Uh, 13.6 billion years is the age of the universe,

which is 1.36 times 10 to the 10, if I recall correctly!

[tomreedtoon]

69. So when is Jurassic Park scheduled to open?

Oh, that's right. Cloned dinosaurs won't be used in a theme park. They'll be used as crowd control at Republican speaking events.

[area51]

73. "So when is Jurassic Park scheduled to open?"

LOL, I was thinking that too.

[alfredo]

83. Soon. It will be right next to Jesusland.

[mmonk]

79. Yes

The paleontologist is from my son's university and since her discovery, some fundamentalists that favor creationism have given her a hard time. Here's some more info. (68 million years old)

http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/05_03/075.htm

[Bandit]

80. whether dinosaurs were cold-blooded like other reptiles or warm-blooded li

Like other reptiles????? The article says they are predecessors of birds not reptiles. Why would they put a statement such as this in there. Birds are warm blooded animals as well.

[mmonk]

84. I believe studies recently

have been tying dinosaurs to the bird family tree or close.

[edhopper]

92. Dinosaurs were reptiles.

There is a big part of the paleontology community that thinks modern birds evolved from dinosaurs. But the final scientific consensus isn't there yet. Modern reptiles evolved from other reptiles that co-existed with dinosaurs.
Even though birds are warm blooded, it is not known if that was a trait of dinosaurs or evolved with birds.
Hope that helps.

[mmonk]

82. Here's the PDF file

http://www.ncsu.edu/news/press_releases/05_03/075.pdf

[boise1]

87. T Rex was great, glad to hear this!

Get it On (Bang a Gong)

[mmonk]

89. Schweitzer answers creationists

http://www.ncsu.edu/news/dailyclips/0106/010406.htm#DJ1

[alfredo]

94. thanks for the link

[mmonk]

95. Thanks for the post (and thread). Enjoyed it.

Dr. Mary Schweitzer

[alfredo]

97. You can never tell what threads will catch on, and what won't.

This one seems to have caught everyone's attention.

[leftofthedial]

96. our lord gawdjeezis has worked in mysterious ways

during the past 6000 years.

The fact that thes blood vessels are like ostrich vessels proves that they must have lived on earth together under the wrathful eye of our intelligently designing gawdalmighty.

[BreweryYardRat]

99. Awesome.

I'm a paleo junkie. This is EXCELLENT news.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

101. God I Love Science. Thanks For Posting This!

That's some fascinating stuff right there. I'm amazed that the soft tissue actually survived for that long. I wonder how long it will take them to possibly isolate the proteins and make other revelations?