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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:18 PM
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Video :DU'rs Symbolman, Stranger Debate Foley on MSNBC's Scarborough show
Here's a goodie for those who haven't seen it - American Stranger and I debated with FOLEY on MSNBC's Scarborough Country when we were Boycotting Limbaugh, to great effect I might add, scared them so much I was on both O'Reilly and Scarbourgh within days.

A few things to watch out for: NUMBER ONE, I mention the DU - basically each time I've made a media appearance I hawk the site, that's how important it is to all of us, more than ever..

Number TWO: Foley making a remark about, "How hard it would be to penetrate Limbaugh.." (my personal favorite),

Three: And Scarborough making fun of my hat, like THAT'S all he's got?

Not to mention that He Threatens to turn off our Microphones in the first half of the debate!

The bad part was, I had been Told by my wife's friend from college, a Lobbyist in Washington DC, that Foley was WELL KNOWN in that town for wanting to Sex YOUNG BOYS. And that was PLURAL, not one, BOYS. This was BEFORE the 2003 date that TPM is mentioning on his fine site, and I hope people realise that this boy licker has been doing this a LONG TIME. Let's not put a date on WHEN this clown was abusing children, and give them any slack, like he clicked one day, he's been at it a LOOONG Time.

It was all I could do to keep from outing him as a child abuser right there on the show, bit off yards of tongue, but in the end I decided that he was in Congress and could probably really put the hurt on me and my family. Not to mention we were already being sued by Michael Savage back them for a half a million bucks.

So for those of you who can watch windows media, here it is, I think DU'r, American Stranger should be praised for bitchslapping the hell outta these people :)

http://www.tbtmradio.com/video/tbtmfoley.wmv

Please keep this kicked for those who might miss it, I've got to hit the road soon, but I think this video puts FOLEY in perspective, think about it, Scarborough, a man who very well may have KILLED his aide, a creepy Pedophile, sticking UP for a Drug Addict Draft Dodger - does the party of Family Values get any more CORRUPT?

Enjoy!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:20 PM
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1. K&N n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:21 PM
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2. K & R
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:22 PM
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3. Gladly kicked.
:kick:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:23 PM
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4. thanks symbolman
and American Stranger for your slap down of those people..

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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:36 PM
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15. What a weird-ass day that was...
Sym was in SoCal at the time, Foley was in Florida, Scar was in either Jersey or DC, and I was in some dinky little sattelite studio on Long Island.

I could see nor hear nothing until we were actually on the air - and then it was feed from MSNBC that was showing on a monitor that was off to my right - I was basically staring into a camera in a small room, and trying to look 'natural.'

Add to that the MSNBC producer in Jersey yelling in my ear to be more energetic and 'confrontational,' because 'the audience loves that.'

My fave line was something about sneakers and Yankee Stadium. Weird. :)

Thanks for bringing that back, Sym. I'll check it later - it's always an endurance test to watch myself on video before I have to turn it off.

- as
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:41 PM
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19. I was hoping one of you would cite Rush's medical condition
...for why Rush didnt join the Vietnam war! Wasn't it an "Anal Cyst!" ? (snopes.com says it was!)

http://www.snopes.com/military/limbaugh.htm

Great job you two! :kick:
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:45 PM
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22. We had all that stuff lined up in case of emergency -
Pigboy's anal cyst, Scar's dead intern - we were ready to go with it if things got out of hand.

And despite the pitch that we got to in the segment, it didn't get to the point of going nuclear. We would have 'never worked in this town again,' but it woulda been great TV! :)

- as
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:27 AM
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36. Refresh my memory on Scarzface's dead intern. What happened
or was said to have happened? And when?
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:39 AM
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42. Lots of info here.
While the media was obsessed with Chandra Levy, another congressional staffer was found dead in then-representative and current MSNBC talk-show host Joe Scarborough's office. Unlike Gary Condit, Scarborough got a free ride from the press.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/lori_klausutis.htm

Scar was considered a rising star in the Repub party - and then he walked away. Lori Klausutis is why.

- as
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:43 AM
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43. WOW, in his office? I never heard this, and if I did, I wasn't paying
attention. Thanks for the link!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:05 AM
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49. Damn peculiar... Maybe he did kill her, maybe somebody did.
7" cut/fracture could occur from a fall, but not likely.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:25 AM
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35. Was the boil on his ass common knowledge back then?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:32 AM
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37. His mom knew... (from the snopes link in post #19)
"Limbaugh's mother said in 1993 that she did not know if her son had a physical or not, but she added that he did have a pilonidal cyst like his father.2"
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:35 AM
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39. I believe so.
I had done a flash animation prior to that called 'The Dirty Dozen' - with 12 Repubs and the resons they gave for avoiding military service.

Pigboy was in it.

- as
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:43 AM
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67. They decided that there was more boil than human
so they removed the Human and left the giant boil to ooze all over us...

Like the man that walked into the doctor with a frog on his head, and the doctor says, "May I help you?"

And the frog says, "Yeah, can you remove this pimple from my ass?" :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:41 AM
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70. Good fucking point! ROMFFL
:rofl:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:03 PM
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85. delete dupe....having internet problems
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 03:04 PM by IChing
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:03 PM
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86. Thanks for checking in and giving us the background of the story
now try to be "more energetic and confrontational" in your posts here at DU
thanks again
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:24 PM
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5. Kicked and rec'd.....I will view tomorrow.
Hopefully, we can gain a little more understanding of this Republican Pervert from this interview.

Thanks!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:26 PM
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6. Kick !! and for the record thats a nice hat!! :)
Edited on Sat Sep-30-06 11:28 PM by Moochy
Foley had that deer in the headlights look, and needed Joe to bail him out.

Joe said it's "..Hard to penetrate a guy like Limbaugh"

:rofl:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:31 PM
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10. That's my
John Lennon's "Bastard Son" hat :)

I should make a short of Foley and Scarborough talking about Penetrating Limbaugh and stick it up on the web, maybe YouTube?

Thanks all!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:56 AM
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54. You two were great!!!
I just watched up to where the coward Scarborough threatened to cut off your mikes.

("I'm taking my ball and going home. Bwaaahhhh!!)

Foley is a real creep. Wimpy little pervert.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:11 AM
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66. I salute you sir
thanks for serving, back I'm sure when we HAD an America to serve :)

Yeah, can you imagine any of these twerps in a battle situation? You'd have to kill them just to get them out of the way so you could fight the enemy.

"Sgt! Can you pull this BOY off my leg? He won't let go and he's pissed himself.. You, Foley, hold this grenade, I'll be right back.."

Foley is Shower Meat if they ever jail him. NO ONE likes a Child Molester. NO One.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:26 PM
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7. I really appreciate the information in addition to the link
On my home computer I cannot watch video, but I will bookmark so that when I'm @ my MIL's home Monday I can watch. Good on ya, symbolman!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:27 PM
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8. If this is half as good as it sounds, my vote was worth it.
I am in the midst of some serious music and took a break to peek at DU and saw this.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:30 PM
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9. JESUS!
Foley looks like a robot.

this is great....."let me finish, please!"

calling them chickenhawks

too much! while he interrupts Stranger/Symbolman, he threatens to cut THEIR mikes!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:39 PM
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17. 'Foley looks like a robot.'
That's what I thought the entire time - he had that grin plastered on his face, even as Sym and I took shots at him.

Strange.

- as
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:31 PM
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11. Boy licker and boot licker. That about sums him up. n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:32 PM
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12. Foley liked young boys
and the GOP leadership had no problem with it,,,until the public knew about it. Anyone who votes GOP is nuts.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:33 PM
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13. Note how Scarryborough credits Limbaugh with getting people like Foley
elected.

Symbolman, you done good. Thanks for sharing.

K and R
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:35 PM
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14. he said Like Foley AND himself, Joe the Internkiller
Good going Rush, you got a pervert and an intern-killer into office! kudos to you fat fuck! :patriot:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:38 PM
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16. That's damning stuff! ... Thanks, Symbolman
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:39 PM
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18. kicking . . . great to see you and great job! i had no
idea that foley was a rush fan. does he know that rush hates fags*?

*(used for effect, no offense meant)

ellen fl
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:21 AM
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61. Sounded like he was more then a fan
Seems he had a direct line to his good friend ol' Limpballs. Maybe they share prescriptions with each other?

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:39 PM
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83. well, they ARE neighbors here in the sunshine state. eom
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:42 PM
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20. Thank you, Symobolman and I like your hat! Also, its great to watch
this vid. side by side with this post.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:42 PM
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21. Shut up and listen to us or we'll cut your mic.
What kind of question was Hannity asking there, "Do you agree the NYT reported that ANSWER is made up of communists?"

Who gives a crap what NYT reported? Hannity should have asked, Is it the truth? Oops. Forgot. As if Hannity cares about the truth.

Now to the aesthetics of this film. Why did the makeup people do such a dandy (overwhelming) job on Sean and Mark, and very little touchup on our DU'ers?

That's a rhetorical question. Eh.

I like the hat. :)
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:48 PM
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25. Sym will tell you about the two-tired makeup rooms at Fox. :)
At the studio I was in, there was no makeup room - in truth, it was more like an interrogation room with TV equipment.

They sent a limo to pick me up, and I also recall getting a free bottle of water, tho. Big spenders, MSNBC.

- as
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:50 PM
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26. I kind of figured that was what happened.
At least they didn't erase your eyes, the way they do Hannity. :D
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:49 AM
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44. LOL, when my husband was on H&C
they sent a car to pick us up and take us to KC to their contract studio not their local Fox affiliate. The room they used was really, really small. The backdrop was about six inches behind him and the camera was set up about three feet in front of him. He didn't have a monitor so he couldn't see anyone while he was on. He said that felt really strange. His audio feed limited but he didn't get any encouragement to confront either Hannity or Colmes. ;)

I was up the hallway in another room and had both audio and video feeds. I heard mostly things like "cut to camera X," but not much else until one point during the interview when I heard someone say "Sean's through" and immediately - and while my husband was still answering Sean's question - Colmes started talking. I noticed that Sean didn't appear again until the next segment. Apparently when they say "Sean's through" and do the toss to Colmes Sean wanders off.

On the way homeI found out that my husband wasn't getting the same audio feed I was so he didn't hear the "Sean's through" comment. Since then, whenever we watch Fox, one of us will say "(fill in host name)'s through" and start laughing.

fwiw, I got coffee and my husband got water. Both were served in plastic SOLO cups.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:08 AM
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51. Great Story!
And kudos to your Husband for getting the word out there :)

This MSNBC gig wasn't too bad, and I was pancaked in orange crap, in downtown LA.. the makeup artist was a trip, he'd done everyone, had fun stories to pass the time, and they gave me a Sprite too.

BUT on the O'Reilly show it was more like a CIA interrogation. We got a limo sent for us, so we're thinking "COOL, this'll be FUN", but once we got to the studio we got led downstairs and stuck in a room with a couch in it that looked like Monkeys had been spunking all over, couldn't sit anywhere, thought something would STICK to me if I did - then I asked for a drink, they pointed at a coke machine, all we had was credit cards, no coins, tough luck there..

So I looked for a cup, no luck, and when I looked in the sink I thought for a moment it was a toilet, but bravely sucked some water from the tap, they KNOW you get dry, they like it that way. THe whole scene was to make sure you felt overpowered.

Got led into a room all black with background, stuck in a chair with an earplug that was too short, so I couldn't wag my head or turn it much, with that Idiot Screaming in my ear, no idea if I was live or not (my first time), all the Lights went out, except for the one overhead in my face that I'm sure Aliens used to stun their prey.

They told me to face a Black BOX, no cues, just a black box in a black room, no monitor, nothing.

O'Reilly comes on in my ear, they test the sound levels, and then moments later I'm ON. And so I'm sitting there in the dark with that FOOL stepping all over me, tho I got some good shots in (got emails of some folks saying they were all standing up and CHEERING in their livingrooms, that REALLY warms the heart - got 1400 emails, some death threats, etc).. and later when I rushed home to watch, there I was on the screen, just like me and O'Reilly were buddies in the same room. Not the experience I had at all.

TOTAL CONTROL of the subject, it takes a lot of guts to do that, having done it a few times, I really appreciate those who fight for us on the tube all the time, we have no idea what they are going through while they try to parry and feign and expose these clowns on their own show.

FOX really SUCKS, MSNBC has more class, did CNN, the Lou Dobbs show, wasn't bad, but they interviewed me for 20 minutes then used maybe 8 seconds of my appearance, talked me all up before that of course, bet they did the same to your hubby, some snot nosed production person waxing your aura :)

Yeah, the old CUT OFF switch, they have a button where they can TURN YOU DOWN while they talk, so it appears you aren't answering, etc and they use it all the time, moreso on Radio, but on TV as well...

Like "Elvis has left the building" for Hannity? BARF!! LOL :)
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:59 AM
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81. My husband was prepared for Insannity
Sean kept trying to overtalk him so my husband (very cool, calm and collected) said "excuse me for trying to answer your question while you were interrupting me." It was shortly after that exchange that Sean decided he was through. :rofl:

The strangest thing about the whole event was the time delay. It was like a badly synched movie. As I said, I was up the hallway in another room where the equipment was located. I was watching two monitors - one had the feed from Fox and the other was the studio feed. I'd hear Sean talking before I saw his lips moving. It was a little disconcerting. When we saw a replay everything was synched up just fine but I do think it helps explain why some guests seem to just sit there for a moment before they react. Unfortunately, most people who watch the shows don't understand that there can be feed delays to the guest at remote locations.

As for make-up, I think they did a quick powder job and then left the room. No pancake here. We got there before the show started and within minutes we were shown the room they set-up for the interview. One of the things that was amusing to me was that because the room was so small they had to set up the camera right in front of him. I could hear the Fox people complaining how big my husband was on the screen. Naturally they couldn't have my husband look bigger than their puppets so when he came on the screen they did a lot of closeups of Sean so that he would be the same size. LOL.

From what I recall the only cue they gave him was "go" right after Sean's short intro into their segment. His appearance was live so there wasn't any danger that they would cut, snip and spin it.

fwiw, my husband was defending Al Gore. Sean and Alan were trying the old "Gore is mentally unstable" line and tried to prove it by showing part of Gore's speech where he was passionately telling the truth about Bush's incompetency. My husband was veering the conversation towards the merits of what Gore said and not playing their game. That's when Sean started interrupting him and then came the words "Sean's through". We thought that was especially telling. They don't want to talk about the merits of the issues because it is easier for them to fling their usual RW talking points that all Democrats are crazy.

Before my husband's appearance we watched H&C for several days. We had friends doing the same thing. He wanted to be prepared and I think he did a great job. We anticipated what they would say (i.e. the usual talking points) and it really helped. We basically knew what they were going to say and do before he went on air because it is the same thing they always try to do. We even went through a number of speeches and used mediamatters, dailyhowler and DU as our resources to prepare (thank you DU!) and the clip they showed was one that he was prepared to defend. The always use the same old forumla so it is easy to overcome when you prepare. But you are correct, don't let them take total control. Instead, use judo and turn their arguments against them. Once you do that they try to change the subject but don't let them. Keep them focused on their original remarks by parroting their questions/statements and then point out the flaws or the fact they are trying to change the subject.

If I can find a copy of the interview on-line I'll PM you and let you watch it.

Thank you for fighting the good fight. :thumbsup:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:24 AM
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97. Cool, I love to see them!
Sounds like he done good, I know what you mean about the delay, I had forgotten about that, makes you feel and look like an idiot to other watching, strangest thing, like some kind of drugged feeling :)

Yeah, I'd love to see him pound Hannity, remember that guy didn't even finish HIGH SCHOOL!
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:49 AM
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105. Just sent you a PM
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 11:51 AM by Mabus
with with a link to a screen capture.

on edit: insert "with a link to a"

Also, I think you might be amused by what Hannity ended up saying. ;)
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:46 PM
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23. .
tomorrow
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:47 PM
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24. I remember that!
Thanks for posting.

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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:56 PM
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28. K&R
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:50 PM
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84. Me, too!
(But I'd forgotten about Foley)
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:55 PM
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27. Oooh boy - guess this isn't going to end anytime soon - it'll get worse
we're going to start hearing from those boys too or at least from someone who knows them.....
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:56 PM
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29. Enjoy?!
I should show this to my persuasive writing class. Scarborough did a classic straw man/FoxNews - as did Foley. A boycott is not censorship. A boycott is as much free speech as a radio show - more so, actually.

Maybe we should just start using "chickenhawk" as the title for all these wimps: chickenhawk bush, chickenhawk rumsfeld, etc. Make the label stick.

Someone wrote an interesting piece about the three types of men who came of age during Vietnam. Those who served, those who protested and those who wanted others to serve. My draft number was extremely high, but I was involved in many protests - and a supporter of the Vets. (For years I've contributed to several veterans' organizations.)

(What's the reference re: Scarborough and his aide?)

good job!

:applause:
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:05 AM
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32. Joe Scarborough used to be a Rep in Florida, too - he resigned, like Foley
But he was having an affair with his young office assistant and got divorced.

Oddly enough, she was found dead in his office - blow to the head. Supposedly, she hit her head while falling down from some unknown medical condition.

No investigation on that one.

See here:

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

Maybe this means Mark Foley will get a job on MSNBC, too?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:38 AM
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40. Then I hope you saw me
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 12:39 AM by symbolman
try to pin the Commie Remark on HIM as well, get Scarborough to call them War Protesters COMMIES.

He didn't fall for it, but to say that all those people were Commies by association is hilarious if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of joe sixpack folks are unfortunatley what I call "repeater stations" - they hear it on TV, true or not, and there they are around the water cooler, bar, coffee shop, just SAYING what they heard with no critical thinking or proof.

Only my second time on TV, the first was O'Reilly's show, and he pinned me with a DUMB question otherwise I got a few shots in there as well.

I'd love to do more of it, I like getting in their faces, and most times when you shove the TRUTH in their faces they'll fold up like Lawn Chairs :)

Scarborough is actually too stupid to use O'Reilly's schtick, which is to pepper someone with 20 questions, then Demand an ANSWER, oldest trick in the book, really. He's a punk, and another right winger who, if I was in the same room with, I'd feel compelled to "butter his necktie"..
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:56 PM
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30. You 2 guys were great....Foley looked deeresque and with a weird smile
Please continue the battle.

Rush is a POS.

That is all,

Come, we go drink beer.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:02 AM
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31. Hey Brah
We come da kine your Island in a few days, for a few days, we should go broke da mouf and get Lolo :)
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:19 AM
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33. That vid made it VERY clear that Foley is MESSED UP.
His head posture, his 'faith' in ????


It was a way messed up individual..... Foley was OBVIOUSLY screwed up - I wish it had been caught earlier.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:24 AM
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34. Woodamnwhoo Symbolman and American Stranger!
First time I had seen this. I don't watch scarzface as a rule. You both did a great job in the same room with a freak like Foley w/o killing him. K & R
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:33 AM
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38. Believe me
after being on the air with both those guys I was ready for a hot Brillo Steel Pad shower :)

He was in a different studio, we all were, as American Stranger mentioned above thread, me in SoCal, Stranger in NYC, Scarman somewhere else, and I think that Foley was at Boy's Town USA, skulking in the shadows with a rubber glove.

If I was in the same room with that scumbag, I'd be in jail. I've got no use for people like that and an Irish temper.

You know who REALLY hates boy lickers? CONS in PRISON. THEY will take them DOWN HARD, even murderers and rapists are repulsed by child molesters.

Thanks, we do it all for you :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:08 AM
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50. Well at least being in separate places you didn't catch anything.
Oh yeah if he gets prison time, which the powers that be will see to it that he doesn't, but saying he does, soap will be his friend. teehee
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:39 AM
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41. *WARNING* GRAPHIC
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:42 AM
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71. EEEEEEEEEEK!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:53 AM
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45. Limpnut took Viagara to the Dominican Republic.
Gawsh. The pill-popping poser makes a likely pedophile.

I'm so proud to say I know you, Symbolman. You and American Stranger beat the devils.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 12:58 AM
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46. Oh man, wouldn't you know it
I can't get it to play on my computer. :shrug: I'll try to view it on another one soon.

Thanks for posting this Symbolman. It sounds like you and American Stranger held your own against these "Evil Doers", thanks for having the courage to stand up and be heard.





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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:01 AM
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47. Great job Symbolman..1st time I'd seen that clip. Watching the crawl
at the bottom of the screen was surreal, like living the run up
to the Iraq invasion all over again and remembering the propaganda
the media was dishing us at the time.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:49 AM
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59. The crawl caught my attention, too! It made me angry!
Symbolman...thank you for your CONTINUED service to our country!:patriot:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:04 AM
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48. You guys were GREAT!!!!
I would have given you a standing ovation at the time of the taping, but in retrospect you're even MORE right ON!! Thanks so much for posting this.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:11 AM
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52. Thank you, Symbolman...
That was FABulous. I'll bet the sleazy old pedophile isn't grinning so much tonight, hmm?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:43 AM
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53. Appreciate all the great comments!
Here's something I'd like to know, speaking of Foley not grinning so much tonight, WHERE are the storm Troopers that should be there tearing his house apart at this very moment, confinscating his computers, looking under his bed, checking the Freezer, and the basement for body parts?

Why isn't HIS OFFICE being Searched?

If this was a Dem you better believe that they'd be DISMANTLING HIS HOUSE and OFFICE..

Instead we get the standard, "Until we investigate this we can't comment.." Trash.

WE DEMAND THIS MAN BE ARRESTED until such time as he Proves his innocence, just like the REST OF US ARE TREATED by this administration. Maybe some waterboarding will do the trick and he'll give up his Boy Porn mags, and you KNOW he has them.

Let's go get those Bush Bastards!!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:20 AM
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56. Where are Foley's RAPE ROOMS?
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 02:21 AM by Gabi Hayes
huh?

lack of immediate investo by jackbooters deserves its own thread, yes?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:29 AM
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57. YES it does
the American people deserve to KNOW what's going on with this Investigation, for the safety of OUR KIDS.

This guy is a STICK we can beat the right wing with Mercilessly, another site, Huffington, posted 100 Republican Pedophiles!!!

How do we know he DOESN'T have a Rape Room? Gacy did, he filled his whole basement with bodies of young men, and no one knew BEFORE he was caught, I want some ACTION on this, these are OUR CHILDREN Mr Bush!

Are you going to start a new thread on that? Let me know, I'll give it a kick for sure.

These people are SCARY and Perverted.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:06 AM
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55. You both were great!!
:hug: Thanks for posting.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:30 AM
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58. Fascinating.
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 02:33 AM by blue neen
Foley actually looks like he has been drugged. If he makes MY skin crawl, can you imagine how profoundly he has affected his victims. He's a criminal, pure and simple.

Symbolman, I salute you and American Stranger. The references to Limbaugh not serving in the military were brilliant, and oh so appropriate.

One of the most interesting things about this all is how right you guys turned out to be. The war is a disastrous mistake of epic proportions, Foley is a monster, and Limbaugh continues to prove that he's a drug-addled, hypocritical, perv. Scarborough? Will the truth ever really come out about his crimes?





edited for typo
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 05:31 AM
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60. K&R. So was Scarborough ever a page?
Did he get a leg-up from Foley in his early career? Anyone know?
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:29 AM
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62. I don't think I'd ever seen you guys live before....
...but you did a great job on the show. Good to see you out there kicking ass and taking names.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 06:32 AM
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63. You kicked some ass, my friend.
Here's rec #34. :thumbsup:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:08 AM
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64. Well done.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:47 AM
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65. Great to see you still rockin' the free world
Symbolman! :toast:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:18 AM
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68. kick and recommend!!!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:39 AM
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69. thanks my friend
You're always there for those that fight :)
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:53 AM
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72. DU February 9, 2003 thread
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:08 AM
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73. WOW
That was a LOT of fun to read, man, where did you FIND that? I would have thought by now that all those years old pages would have gone BYE BYE with all the changes around here :)

Thanks so much, those were some good times, love to go after these guys some more, but am writing my Opus now, an enviromental book about my adventures in Alaska looking for Uranium by Helicopter and finding.. well, you'll have to read the book :) (got some Hollywood interest in it already, imagine a DU'r having a book made into a FILM for real theaters!)

I particularly found this post Prophetic!

***********************

if protesters are communist because of ANSWER...
then the reply is...
Repugs are pedophiles (bring up recent repug pedophile arrests)
up the ante. we've got the winning hand

***********************

Talk about psychic, this person NAILED IT back then!

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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:38 AM
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75. did a search
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:17 AM
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78. Wow. That takes me back.
Thanks for finding that.

- as
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:37 AM
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74. Awesome!
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 10:39 AM by DemReadingDU
Nice to go back and view these great video clips!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 10:50 AM
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76. gee a real live du`r
nice to see someone instead of a username...all i can say is--keep on keeping on...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:11 AM
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77. It's always fun to Meet Du'rs too
like at Events - met a lot of Du'rs in San Francisco when I got to wear a Cheney mask &suit, and ride around in a 1937 Convertible Rolls Royce, throwing 911 Dollars out the back, there was a whole contingent there, including Proud Patriot, used her camera to take a pic of them all, but never saw the pic..

Hey PP, I wanna see the pic :)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:22 AM
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79. Who is smirking now?
Utter phonies. And that's how they get their followers. A perpetual smirk, and a syrup sound. And the sheep follow.

Thanks you guys! I was unable to watch this video when it came out. Glad I got to see it finally.
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pauliedangerously Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:51 AM
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80. You guys have balls of steel
Edited on Sun Oct-01-06 12:00 PM by pauliedangerously
I don't watch any MSM, except for clips people recommend on the Internet. I canceled my cable TV right after the last election, but maybe I ought to get it again just to study these peoples' tactics (with a barf bag in my lap).

I didn't mind watching that clip knowing that Foley had recently resigned, and that look on his face brought back memories of life in the Bible Belt.

Seems funny to me that it's usually democrats that get nailed in consensual heterosexual sex scandals, while republicans get it for homosexual acts or prostitution.

If you're ever in the Twin Cities, look me up. Drinks are on me.


**edited for addendum**


I just blasted you a donation. The airwaves are where the real battle is. Fight the good fight, brother.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 07:18 PM
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89. Thanks!!
I couldn't watch any new source once bush was installed, used to be a news junky, but when they announced he'd won (and at 53 I've seen a Lot of tv), I knew the fix was in, and I had to go to the bathroom, I was physically Ill. I think I turned off CNN for six months after that, and 911 brought me back to tv..

But I realised back in 2000 that the MEDIA is the KEY to all of it, it creates the REALITY that so many people live "in", and don't realize it. Their thoughts, emotions, attitudes are shaped by that very Box, the one that tells stories which all humans USED to do around a fire, for SANE reasons, to draw us together, pass on wisdom, etc..

we are hard wired for STORIES, and they know that, so hey supply FALSE Myths and Icons, and many people become repeater stations for propaganda at the water cooler, in the line at the store, etc.

So we have to HIT THEM HARD at the story telling level, another reason I'm writing a book now, I think I can reach more people on a subject with a STORY, than making the Flash's like at Takebackthemedia.com all these years, tho we had 100 million hits in our first year alone.

They are training our little ones to accept insanity as reality, that divides us, and then we are conquered. Fear is just the topping, creamy just like they like it. The right wing has been taking over the media, actually the Corps are worse, since the 50's. Should write a book about that next.

Thanks so much for the support, we've been at least TRYING, and it will take all of us to change ALL of our Minds and Heal ourselves :)

Yeah a drink sounds good, too cold there for me tho, spent too much time in Fairbanks to appreciate snow anymore!
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:08 PM
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82. Thank you, Mister Symbolman!
:hi:
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shugh514 Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:17 PM
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87. They always lie about the number of Limbaugh's listeners
Notice how Foley says 15 million listeners a week. Rush is on daily. That's only 3 million listeners who tune in everyday. Thats not the first time I've heard that lie.

Great job guys!
:thumbsup:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 03:59 PM
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88. KICK!!!!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 08:53 PM
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90. That was very entertaining!!
K&R! :kick:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:33 PM
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91. Bwahahahah!
That is a thang of BEAUTY!
Thanks for posting it!
I remember the interview but had completely forgotten
that FOLEY was the third participant.
TOO funny...
Hugs to you both.
BHN
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:50 PM
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92. creeps...
birds of a feather...flocking together. Foley's 'greatest hits' should be a real retcher.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:52 PM
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93. That was cool
You should dub the sounds of instant messaging every time Foley talks.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 09:52 PM
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94. Joe sounded like O'Lielly when he threatened to cut the mics
I thought his voice was only going to be heard by dogs by the end of that.

Good repost, Symbolman! I had not seen it before today. My Iraq War Vet. husband and I thank you for your service! I have always liked your posts, so it was great to see the face behind the words. :)

:hi:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:59 AM
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98. Same back atcha
You and your Hubby, thanks for defending this country, might not look the same, let's call it technical Problems like with the TV stations when they go down, and we'll FIX them :)

All the Best, and yep, that's my face, and the Hat that Scarborough was so jealous of, poor chickenhawk, can't wear what he wants to :)
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:17 PM
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95. Thanks for the link
I couldn't believe that Scarborough and Foley tried to tar the anti-war movement with the accusation of Communism.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 11:36 PM
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96. Good Stuff
K&R
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:00 AM
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99. K & R! n/t
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:18 AM
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100. I'm going to give this a KICK
for those who were gone over the weekend and might have missed it..

Heading out for some travel, so if anyone can give this a kick now and then so DU'rs can enjoy DU'rs fighting the fight, and Foley's Perverted face in one fell swoop :)

Thanks for all the comments, much appreciated by American Stranger and I!
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:41 AM
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101. That was excellent
Limbaugh trying to increase his audience of non-thinkers.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:51 AM
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102. Cool! n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:55 AM
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103. thanks for posting that symbolman.
Enjoyed watching especially in light of events. Family values indeed.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:10 AM
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104. That's one scary guy, eh?
I'd never seen him before, and I don't know if you can tell I was shook at first, it was because of him, I KNEW there was something wrong with that guy and had been told that he was "into Boys" by a lobbyist pal..

CREEPY, and just in time for Halloween, maybe they can make a FOLEY mask
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