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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:36 PM
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Guess it shows how important AAR really is? --- Malloy...
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 05:08 PM by GreenTea
Even with the bullshit firing of Malloy – which infuriated me to no end… I want Malloy back on the national airwaves, Mike’s too important of a voice to be silenced.

Still, one now also has to recognize that AAR is the only national commercial progressive network that liberals have.... Border to border, coast to coast on the radio airwaves, and on the larger satellite radio (XM), AAR has a huge Internet streaming audience and it’s archived and iPod ready to go nationwide (even in Alaska & Hawaii).

So then, where else can or would Malloy go?

I don't think Malloy wants to go the individual station route like the excellent Peter B Collins here on the "Left Coast" one station at a time getting picked up by a station here and there.

Thom Hartmann does a very good job picking up stations...but it takes years and even Hartmann is indirectly part of AAR. Ed Schulz also does well picking up "liberal" stations.

And there are excellent local radio stations like KGO in San Francisco with Bernie Ward... and has a huge radio audience in Northern CA & Southern OR...but again that's local...is there even another liberal radio station in Atlanta, besides AAR?

I wouldn't think Mike has the stomach to start from scratch with one little nightly station and begin to build again...But I could be wrong.

I'm sad for myself that Malloy is gone from AAR I watched as Malloy went through similar type of shit with i.e. America before it folded...

However, the Malloy's plight has also shown me what little options we have for progressive liberal radio...and what would happen if AAR were to go silent and exist no more?

The only other national radio that offers a "liberal" voice with a dedicated channel is Sirius & XM satellite radio..

But even Sirius "Left' is stretching the "left" a bit too much (its more like Sirius “Moderate”) with the likes of Alex Bennett, Ed Schultz, Lynn Samuels, Bill Press, etc… I don’t think Sirius is ready for real liberal radio, again, I may be wrong.

XM satellite radio, I think, is committed mostly to AAR –

I suppose no matter how pissed I am at the asshole execs at AAR –It’s basically all we have nationally. So I will support and encourage others to support AAR & Premium. What else can we do?

But I also want Malloy back on the air somewhere, in so much as Sirius seems the best of what’s available…Malloy's 'truth seekers' need to write and call Sirius Left radio in Malloy’s behalf.......as Kathy wrote, it is noticed and does has an effect.

Sirius must, after signing Howard Stern to tens of millions of dollars, have some bucks left to sign a great radio talent like Mike Malloy!

http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=Channel&cid=1104779630493&flash=noflash

1-888-539-SIRIUS

www.airamericaradio.com
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:51 PM
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1. He could go to the Jones Radio Network
They carry Stephanie Miller and Ed Schultz.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:53 PM
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2. What is that? Please elaborate...
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 04:53 PM by LaPera
about the "Jones Network".
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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:08 PM
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4. Not sure about Jones
They syndicate both conservative hosts (Neal Boortz) and progressive hosts (Miller and Schultz), but I think Mike will be too "risky" for them. That could, however, be one of the three leads that Mike mentioned about, but I don't think it's the "likely" one.
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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:04 PM
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3. Don't want to sound negative, but...
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 05:12 PM by CaseyBuck
Unless Mike "sells out" to become a DLC-type liberal, or tones down his anger, I don't think that he will ever be on a major-market, national radio network again. Air America was best thing to ever happen to Mike's program, and now it's gone.

I have a strong feeling that Mike's show will eventually continue, but in a reduced form. It'll most likely become either Internet-only, satellite-only, or a combination of Internet and a few affiliates here and there (like it was with i.e. America).

If Mike goes into independent syndication, the silver-lining is that Air America has a weak lineup after 8 PM, and that some affiliates will likely air Mike over whatever AAR has in the evening (Politically Direct, EcoTalk, and the "temporary substitute show" at 10 PM ET). Right now, most of Mike's former affiliates have either Lionel, Peter Werbe (the temp 10 PM host), or Thom Hartmann reruns in Mike's former slot.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:31 PM
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5. I have to agree completely with what you wrote.
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 05:36 PM by GreenTea
I think "satellite only" will be Malloy's best and maybe only option.

At least "satellite only" Malloy would be on radio (home, car and boom box} via satellite subscription in a growing satellite market.

Better than being on Internet and having to be stuck to a computer to listen...but then, that's the only way I've ever heard Malloy on i.e. america and AAR is by Internet streaming, (except for a brief period when Sirius carried AAR). And archive shows on White Rose Society... Ben will archive Mike where ever Mike ends up, so that's a positive, but there's nothing like hearing Malloy Live on the air waves.

Your right, the options are minimal and I hope Sirius picks his show up...It'd be a coup for me having Sirius radio everywhere in my home and vehicles...since I've been threatening to go to XM...but now it's not worth going to XM simply for Randi Rhodes and I can pick up Thom Hartmann and 3 to 6 -Peter B Collins on local radio...Ah, Peter B is on right now....
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Heewack Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:43 PM
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7. Yep.
Malloy has no career in radio any longer.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:45 PM
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9. "Malloy has no career in radio any longer." Is a little strong
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 06:47 PM by LaPera
I think Malloy will end up somewhere...I can't say that for sure, it is limited with an unlimited market. There just aren't enough liberal radio stations in the country, bottom line.
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:41 PM
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6. I have been listening to this radio network.


www.headonradionetwork.com


I really do like it. I miss Mike also.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:19 PM
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8. I'd be happy to hear Malloy anywhere.
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clbuck Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:09 PM
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10. I think that's the "fourth option" that Mike posted about yesterday
There was a post on The Old Sarge's blog, in which Sarge asked Kathy how much it would cost to produce Mike's show on HORN. Here's what he said:

I have been asked about getting Malloy on HORN and what kind of money it would take if his fans were to try and cover the cost. Here is the reply I got from Kathy Malloy on it:

"Hi Sarge,

Kathy Malloy here. I'll pass on the email (below) I sent Ben Burch about this issue a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks for all you do,
Kathy

Mike can only take union jobs and the AFTRA minimum salary for a nationally syndicated host is around $140K per year. Add a producer/screener/board one person or two at another $60 - 70K per year. Mike's union is to be paid separately - 12.5% of his salary.

We have all the broadcast equipment, just need a studio built out in our basement (about $4K). That's the cheap part.

Then there would be satellite uplink fees, ISDN costs, and phones installed and concomitant monthly fees. That's not so cheap. I think just the satellite is around $5k per month. The ISDN is only about $100, but the rollover 800# lines would probably be another $2K per month. We've had plenty of free podcasting offers, so that's a freebie.

So I guess you could produce Mike's program - suitable for affiliate broadcast - for about $425K per year. Of course it would be cheaper if the program was attached to a network that already had a satellite uplink, 800 number and phone lines, etc, for their other established programs."


I didn't know that a radio program was that much money to produce.
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