Stand back everyone! It's gonna blow!

[Independent_Liberal]

Foley resigning was just the tip of the iceberg. The Abramoff and Cunningham/Wilkes/MZM/Hookergate dam is going to break wide open.

What's going to hit the fan?

New Hampshire Phone Jamming
GOP Prostitution Rings and Pedophiles
Illegal Campaign Contributions
Defrauded Indian Tribes
American Turkish Council
Money Laundering
Heroin Trafficking
Illegal Arms Trafficking
Greenberg Traurig
Guam
Sex Slavery and Forced Abortion in the Mariannas
Foreign Influence Peddling
Hastert and Turkey
DeLay's ARMPAC, Misuse of the FAA and DHS, Trips to Russia and the people who turned up dead in his district
Ney and Scotland, Iran and illegal wiretaps
Aragoncillo and Philippine Spy Espionage
The SunCruz Investigation
The Gus Boulis Murder Case
Mobsters
Kidan
Rudy
Safavian
Norquist
Noe and Coingate
Lay, Skilling and Enron Fraud
Blackwell's Stocks in Halliburton
Wally O'Dell and Diebold
HAVA
Ralph Reed
Bob Taft
Ernie Fletcher
Carl Gutierrez
Haley Barbour
9/11 and Mohammad Atta
Terrorists at Casinos
Defense Contractors
MZM, Inc.
Hooker and Poker Parties at the Watergate
Goss, Wilkes and Wade

:nuke:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. DAMN! That is a HELL OF A LIST! Great, and thanks.

But, please remind me - Ernie Fletcher? ? ? ?

[Independent_Liberal]

7. He's the Governor of Kentucky. He was indicted recently.

He received money from DeLay's ARMPAC which is linked to Abramoff.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. Ahhhh - and he is just south of me. I should have known that.

Again, thanks for that list.

[Iris]

51. I agree. Hell of a long list.

Thanks for putting it together, Independent_Liberal.

[wicket]

63. Amen!!!

This is one for the ol' bookmark file.

[KyndCulture]

2. optimist I see.

[Orrex]

3. Yeah, but Survivor just voided its whole "race" issue

And Anna Nicole's son died
And Paris was at Oktoberfest
And Joey Lawrence is dancing
And Bill Clinton was mean to poor Chris Matthews

Shame on you for bothering us with your trivial "politics" at a time like this!

[Brundle_Fly]

14. he was mean to chris wallace

but I am still K&R this thread!

you can see it all on CBC canada.

[Tellurian]

4. What media outlet is going to"break this wide open?"

There is so much on the "platter"..don't want to miss anything..

[Ezlivin]

5. Paris Hilton got arrested!

And, hey, have you seen the new Survivor show?

Who needs teflon® when you've got Fox?

[Imagevision]

6. Amazing, Bush has accomplished so much without proper oversight!

[Tellurian]

12. Does that mean the law of physics applies?

The entire House of Rep (the R's) have been in on the plan
to support Bush no matter what, from the very beginning.

So, in theory they will all go down with a big THUD and
overcrowd the courts and the prison system?

:)

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. I hear Club Fed is hiring

guards and kitchen staff.

[Tellurian]

27. hahahahaha!

If only...

certainly would put a serious dent in the unemployment rate!

[KansDem]

34. Well, there are all those detention cells Halliburton has built...

Oh, the irony!!!

[Tellurian]

36. Would be SWEET..

wouldn't it?

(30sec. gloat)

[kerry-is-my-prez]

8. I do notice that the media seems to have turned on BushCo lately

Maybe their Corporate Masters have decide "enough is enough."

But will it be a case of too little too late. They've been enabling and propping this war criminal up for several years.

I also wonder if they will be back to spewing out the Bush Propaganda on Monday.

[hvn_nbr_2]

28. I don't think they've really turned.

I think they're just hedging their bets a little.

[tblue]

33. I've sensed a few chinks in the armor, too

But I'll believe it when I see it. I'm just hoping KO stays on the air.

[malaise]

38. Bingo n/t

[go west young man]

61. I think there's just too many scandals for them to spin now....

the media is Bush's juggling circus clown and that clown has so many balls in the air now that the bootlicking media can't keep up. It's dizzying. I expect they will soon just go into complete denial and not report Republican screwups at all. When you dance with the devil you have to keep dancing. I believe Faust wrote something to that effect.

[Vincardog]

39. I think they can smell the burn coming out of our a$$s. They do not want

to be left behind when we kick the fascist NeoConvicts out of our government.

[peacetalksforall]

Will they blow in time - four plus weeks?

[peacetalksforall]

9. Will they blow in time - four plus weeks?

[mom cat]

10. Rec #5 ... But Clinton had a zipper defect!

[kimmerspixelated]

25. But at least he liked women

and not little boys, plus he fucked up his own life(a little), not the country and the rest of the world!

[mom cat]

30. He did know to not get involved with jail bait of any gender.

[Warren DeMontague]

11. Yeah. I'm sure the media will be right on it.

That's exciting stuff, but you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath.

[walldude]

15. I'm with you, I long ago gave up on them getting nailed

for anything. Hell they don't even care anymore what it looks like. They got away with the war, they can get away with anything. If things start to look bad, they throw someone under the bus...

[enid602]

16. With such a long list . . .

How could you passibly have omitted Gannongate?

[Independent_Liberal]

42. Oh yeah! Gannon!

He engaged in sodomy with DeLay at one of those brothels set up by Abramoff. Gotta add him to the list. Thanks!

:)

[Blackhatjack]

17. Don't Forget Libby/Plame Leak Disclosures Pre-Trial.....

....Discovery works both ways. Libby has to disclose info to Fitz and the Court as well.

I am betting that there is a heck of a lot of pressure being brought to bear on Bush to go ahead and pardon Libby before Libby is forced to turn over WH incriminating info to Fitz as discovery in preparation for trial in January.

[Independent_Liberal]

43. The Libby/Plame Leak stuff is coming after...

...the Abramoff/Cunningham doo doo blows apart.

[tenshi816]

18. None of it will hit the fan if the MSM

don't follow up on it. I've lost count of the number of things my family thinks didn't happen simply because they disappeared after being barely mentioned on the news, or not mentioned at all.

I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade, but I don't trust the media (outside of the internet) to put much emphasis on this story.

I will be very happy to be wrong about this.

[glitch]

19. Add Doolittle to that list :) Good work! nt

[BrotherBuzz]

31. Doolittle gets his comeuppance on Tuesday

W visits Doolittle's district on 03 Oct for a fundraiser at a 'gated' Country Club. There will lots of news coverage of the event, and I'll bet dimes to donuts the back stories will also include the Doolittle/DeLay/Abramoff connection. People in his very red district are starting to see the picture.

[glitch]

37. Love it! My folks live in his district, they've been quite excited about

Charlie Brown and his hard hitting ads. Doolittle has not one iota of any redeeming quality.

[Independent_Liberal]

49. Doolittle, he's going down.

For an idea of who all is getting indicted, please go to this page: http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/gopscorecard.htm

[Avalux]

20. Now there's "family values" for you. Geez.

That list is nothing short of mind-boggling. Thanks for compiling it; if OK with you gonna pass it around to some who need to see it. :hi:

[Peace Patriot]

21. HAVA is at the heart of it all. No. 27 on your list. Without HAVA,

none of this other would have been possible. (And so much more...)

They had to get rid of transparent, verifiable elections--and get Diebold and brethren in there, "counting" all the votes with TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code.

That WAS the fascist coup. Oct. 29, 2002. A day that will live in infamy. (The day George Bush signed HAVA!) (--with all but two Dem Senators having voted FOR it--thanks to Sen. Christopher Dodd--who, with Terry McAuliffe and others, were then responsible for the MIND-BOGGLING SILENCE of the entire Dem Party leadership as to the end of democratic elections in the U.S. of A.)

Items on your list related to HAVA:

#4: Defrauded Indian Tribes. (--Tom Delay and Bob Ney engineered the HAVA coup--the bribes were passing over their desks at the same time)

#14: Delay (chief HAVA crook)

#15: Ney (other chief HAVA crook)

#26: Wally O'Dell and Diebold (nuff said...but*)

* Item missing from your list: ES&S, brethren to Diebold (Diebold run by Bob Urosevich, ES&S by his brother, Tod Urosevich); ES&S is a spinoff of Diebold (similar computer architecture) initially funded by rightwing billionaire Howard Ahmanson, who also gave one million dollars to the extremist 'christian' Chalcedon Foundation, which touts the death penalty for homosexuals (among other things). Together these two Bushite corporations "counted" 80% of the nation's votes in 2004.

*Possible additional item: Sequoia (the third major election theft player) now employs Bill Jones (Repub) former Sec of State of Calif, and his chief aide, Alfie Charles, in one of the more outstanding examples of the highly corrupt practice of "revolving door" employment. Jones and Charles brought this election theft technology to Calif, while in public office, and now peddle the machines. (--stinks to high heaven.)

------------------------------

If you're going to prosecute an unjust, illegal war--and rob the public blind--in a democracy, you have to rig the elections. That's what they did. It all goes back to HAVA.

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We need to stop lamenting the extent of the crime--and even the extent of the lives lost (tens of thousands)--and start addressing the MECHANISM of illegitimate power by which they have been able to do these things: rigged elections, now made EASY and virtually UNDETECTABLE, through "trade secret" vote tabulation.

We MUST restore transparent elections. No change is possible without them. The power of the vote IS our power, as a people. It has been stolen by thieves, with the complicity of many leaders of our own party.

How do we restore our right to vote, given such a comprehensive conspiracy to take it away (involving not just the Bush Junta, but also the war profiteering corporate news monopolies AND the Corporatists (and War) Democrats?

Well, we don't restore our right to vote by not voting. That's for sure. And we don't restore it by punishing bad Democrats at the polls this fall. We will have to hold them accountable later, because we really have no other vehicle for change but the Democratic Party, and I think we have to temporarily presume that most of the bad Democrats can be influenced in the right direction--on some things, anyway (torture? habeas corpus? impeaching Bush/Cheney?)--when there is a massive citizen revolt. And how will that happen?

I think it's already happening--with the great increase in Absent Ballot voting (--it's up to 50% in Los Angeles!). People DON'T TRUST these electronic voting machines. But it has to get bigger. We have to SWAMP election officials with MOUNTAINS of Absentee Ballot votes. And if enough people do it--if everyone who despises the Bush Junta (60% to 70% of the American people) votes by Absentee Ballot this fall, the reign of these diabolical machines will be OVER! They can't maintain this rigged system with such a revolt against it. Local/state election officials will be FORCED to reform, or will be driven from office. (Luckily, decisions about voting systems still reside at the state/local level, and electronic voting is not mandated by law--it was accomplished through corruption, the $3.9 billion HAVA boondoggle.)

The governor of Maryland (a Repub) and the Colorado Dem Party have both called for Absentee Ballot voting--due to the massive breakdowns and unreliability of this crapass voting technology. That's a start. Now we have to push AB voting as a PROTEST! --aimed at getting rid of the machines.

With transparent elections, everything--the entire political landscape--will change dramatically. It's amazing what accountability to the people of the country, through fair elections, will do! (Look at all of South America--Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Bolivia, Venezuela (and coming soon in Ecuador and Peru)--a huge, peaceful, democratic, leftist (majorityist) revolution, all based on TRANSPARENT elections.)

Step one, priority one, for democracy: transparent elections!

BUST THE MACHINES--VOTE BY ABSENTEE BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER! SPREAD THE WORD!


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See my further argumentation for this protest, "What do you expect from the Diebold Congress?", at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2851762&mesg_id=2851762

[Independent_Liberal]

47. Thanks PeacePatriot!

U DA MAN!

:patriot:

[jarnocan]

23. I doubt it will get much play, and even so they

rarely if EVER connect the dots, such as how the Abramoff money laundering etc. aided the fraudulent elections.

[SoCalDem]

24. It's.... It's.... It's....

the Republican Family Values list.. Thanks for posting it.. I misplaced my copy :evilgrin:

[Independent_Liberal]

46. No problem.

:D

[gatorboy]

26. Part of a Democratic October Surprise ho-down?

They have enough stuff to work with!

[Independent_Liberal]

45. Yup!

Indeed they do.

;)

[hvn_nbr_2]

29. This should be in every Dem's campaign advertising. nt

[tblue]

32. Yessiree Bob! Print out a copy and keep it in your pocket

for when you run into people who ask 'Why so glum?"

[POAS]

35. I'm gonna "borrow" your list to post elsewhere... OK?

[Independent_Liberal]

41. I PMed you.

[Vincardog]

40. Did you miss the DSM?

[Independent_Liberal]

44. That's coming up shortly...

...after Abramoff-Cunningham-Coingate-New Hampshire Phone Jamming. DSM starts with Plame-AIPAC-Franklin-Yellowcake.

[salinen]

48. And

Bin Laden flights out of U.S. on 9-12-01.

[brettdale]

50. The media

The media is our worst enemy though.

[AntiFascist]

52. What about A.Q. Khan? and could that lead to other things breaking open?nt

[MzNov]

53. and if someone would just give Bush a BJ, it would be all over! nt

[tomreedtoon]

54. It would be cool. But the Democrats won't do anything.

In this case, I think they are worried about the dirt the Republicans spent millions to dig up (or fabricate?) on them.

You'll notice the difference...although some people might think it's awful to talk about "our" politicians as being corrupt, well, it happens all the time.

When a corrupt Democrat is found, he is embarassed, he resigns, and he will be used as a club to beat other Democrats into submission.

When a corrupt Republican is found, he denies, Democrats don't push for investigation, the media whores back him up, John Stossel calls the rumors "myths and lies," and when undeniable evidence is found and the Republican finally resigns, the Democrats don't do NOTHIN'.

In only one case should Democrats be more like Republicans. They should be unafraid to use the corrupt person of the other party against the whole party.

[lonestarnot]

55. Long list. Waiting and watching.

[Stinky The Clown]

56. Add Jeanine Pirro (R) and her conspiracy with Bernie Kerik

That's almost at full boil right now.

Another R going down.

Isn't it marvelous how they break the very rules they say they uphold.

That 'save the children' crap on Foley's website.

A state Atty General candidate in a conspiracy to illegally bug a yacht to catch her philandering husband.

[lonestarnot]

57. Is there any way to add fatass Ailes to the list for commandeering the

media?

[insanerepubs]

58. I guess

I am not using the right type of tin foil. I haven't heard of half of your list. It seems to me that Democrats would be better off working on getting control of the House and Senate rather than wasting time focusing on the chimpster......

[KharmaTrain]

59. Connect Your Local Repugnican To Any Of The Above...

There's enough slime in this do-nothing House to find something on EVERY Repugnican and tie them to the lies, corruption and overal inetpness of this regime.

I feel this is just the tip of a big iceburg of graft and perversity that will take years to unravel.

[Miss Chybil]

60. This stuff has already blown and it doesn't make of shit of difference.

The sheeple can't leave the heard.

Or, is it that everybody is just quietly waiting for November...

:evilgrin:

[dave123williams]

62. You missed a big one:

I almost fell out of my chair when I read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2264065&mesg_id=2266320

[Octafish]

64. Didn't monkey blow Victor Ashe?

Or was that the other way around?

[mnhtnbb]

65. Jeez, I don't know what half the stuff is on the list--and I'm on DU daily

[Joe Chi Minh]

66. What do you call a Republican in a suit?

The Accused. Heck, that was supposed to be joke. Fat chance! They defy not only satire but even the broadest comedy.

[alfredo]

67. Nigerian bribes/Halliburton/Cheney

Condi sex change

[leesa]

68. But absolutely no one is talking about this in the media and no one

is discussing any of it in public, so why would it blow?