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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:52 PM
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Passenger detained for writing "Kip Hawley Is An Idiot" on bag
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Wisconsin man who wrote "Kip Hawley is an Idiot" on a plastic bag containing toiletries said he was detained at an airport security checkpoint for about 25 minutes before authorities concluded the statement was not a threat. Ryan Bird, 31, said he wrote the comment about Hawley -- head of the Transportation Security Administration -- as a political statement. He said he feels the TSA is imposing unreasonable rules on passengers while ignoring bigger threats. A TSA spokeswoman acknowledged a man was stopped, but likened the incident to cases in which people inappropriately joke about bombs. She said the man was "a little combative" and that he was detained only a few minutes.

The incident has ignited some chatter on Internet travel Web sites. More than 83,000 people have clicked on a FlyerTalk.com forum devoted to the episode, and the forum has grown to include 30 pages of comments. Bird, the vice president of a company that manufactures industrial equipment, said the encounter occurred at Milwaukee Airport on Tuesday, the day the TSA eased restrictions on carry-on liquids, gels and aerosols. Bird entered the airport checkpoint with a see-through resealable bag containing small containers of toothpaste, deodorant, mouthwash and hair gel -- in keeping with new TSA requirements. "My level of frustration with the TSA and their idiotic policies has grown over 2 years," he said. "I'm frustrated that poorly trained TSA people can pull random passengers out of line and pat them down like common criminals. The average traveler has no recourse."

Bird put the marked bag in a plastic tray along with his shoes and cell phone. A TSA screener saw the bag and went to get a supervisor, who grabbed it and asked Bird if it was his. "It was obvious that he was already angry," Bird said, adding that the screener told him, "You can't write things like that." The supervisor told Bird he had the right to express his opinions "out there" -- pointing outside the screening area -- but did not have the right "in here," Bird said. The supervisor called a sheriff's deputy, who checked to see if Bird had any warrants for his arrest, Bird said. Bird asked the officer if he was under arrest, and was told that he was being detained, he said.

A supervisor said he was going to confiscate the bag, but after Bird refused, he just photographed it, Bird said. Bird said he filed a complaint about the incident with the TSA. A TSA spokeswoman said she could not confirm whether Bird had filed a complaint, but described the incident as insignificant. Screeners looked at the bag to "make sure it wasn't anything like a bomb threat," she said. She said the man was "a little combative" and that a law enforcement officer came over, briefly interviewed him and determined that he hadn't broken any laws. "Everyone's entitled to their own opinion," she said. A spokeswoman for the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office said the TSA did call the sheriff's office to report an upset customer at the checkpoint. A deputy went to the scene, interviewed all of the participants, ran a wanted check on the man, and referred it back to the TSA after determining no crime had been committed, Deputy Darice Landon said.

Landon said the original call came at 2:21 p.m., and it was unclear how long the man was detained. There is no indication that he was combative, she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/28/idiot.baggie/index.htm...
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:53 PM
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1. Serves him right.
They should have taken the new torture bill for a test drive on this guy.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:57 PM
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4. did you forget your sarcasm smiley?
this one :sarcasm:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:58 PM
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7. Jeeze, if people can't see sarcasm when it's right in front of them...
then a smiley would just be pointless, now wouldn't it?

:sarcasm:

:sarcasm:

:sarcasm:

:sarcasm:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:04 PM
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15. naw, just people have been outing themselves recently
in odd ways. I got called on a thing recently too, was it sarcasm or was it real?
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:11 PM
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19. Mine was pure sarcasm.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:58 PM
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6. you are being sarcastic right. or are you one so afraid
you feel we should all put our heads down and make no eye contact
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:59 PM
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8. :sarcasm:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:02 PM
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14. so happy. i am soooo happy. lol. i have actually had people
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 03:04 PM by seabeyond
on both sides of the isle that would be serious on the subject and not be saying htat in sarcasm. having been "intimidated" for no reason, i take this seriously. thanks
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:56 PM
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2. "You can't write things like that"
Good thing he didn't write "Bush Sucks", eh?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:01 PM
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13. Oh my, Keith Olbermann would have a field day with this statement.
"you can't write things like this."

Like fun you can't.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:56 PM
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3. that's hilarious
i'm going to see if i can find that thread right now, i bet it's a hoot!
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:58 PM
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5. May I just say...
Kip Hawley is an idiot.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 02:59 PM
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9. Looks like one too


Can you say, "Crony"?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:00 PM
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10. Well, we aren't flying anywhere soon are we?
:rofl:
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:09 PM
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18. All of DU is on the "no fly list"!
except the trolls, of course....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:24 PM
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24. Oh dear.. He really IS an idiot, isn't he?
Whatta mug.
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:00 PM
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11. How soon until he is on the No fly list?
Unless you are heavily connected you'll never get off. No defense no recourse nothing.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:00 PM
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12. It took those MORANS 25 minutes to determine that the words
"Kip Hawley is an idiot" did not constitute a threat???

What, were they all "christian" homeschooled???? Sounds like some seriously critical-thinking-impaired screeners out there..................

I think we ALL should put that on our ziploc bags. Teach the freaks a lesson.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:26 PM
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25. it could have been written in explosive ink!
Did you ever stop to think about that? Huh?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:04 PM
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16. should have wrote
***** is a fuckstick and so are the people that do his bidding - the dude would probably be still in detainment, but it would be worth it
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:06 PM
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17. Can I say:
Kip Hawley is an asshole?, that he is a fascist and a motherfucking jackbooted ass puppet?
That he's gonna burn with the rest of them ( in hell, of course, agent mike)

Just askin...
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:12 PM
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20. Time to start writing on all your baggage.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:20 PM
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21. careful . . . if you contribute to this thread, you may end up . . .
on the no fly list . . . or worse . . . :hippie:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:31 PM
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26. Fuck em
I haven't the money to fly anywhere...and the wife is 1/2 Italian (once removed) and 1/2 Irish (once removed).

Her and the kids could emigrate to either place if I get "disappeared"

Kinda funny huh?
To escape fascism, they would go to Italy.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:22 PM
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22. EVERYONE should write . . . "Kip Hawley is an Idiot"
on their little toiletry baggies!!

That's nuts.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:24 PM
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23. So what was the threat?
Was he going to make Kip Hawley an idiot?
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GreenCommie Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:25 PM
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27. I think it was worse than that....
Maybe he threatened to make him smarter!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:42 PM
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28. Brings to mind a a fifty year old joke about smart pills & rabbit pellets
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 04:44 PM by Vidar
(excrement).
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