Gutless Democrats saying Aye:

[madmusic]

From Daily Kos:

On the question do you favor (1) allowing the President to define torture, (2) strip the court of judicial review via habeas corpus (even though the constitution does not allow you to except in cases of invasion or Rebellion), and (3) allowing the President to jail American citizens arbitrarily and without court review?

Gutless Democrats saying Aye:
Tom Carper (Del.)
Tim Johnson (S.D.)
Mary Landrieu (La.)
Frank Lautenberg (N.J.)
Bob Menendez (N.J)
Bill Nelson (Fla.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Pryor (Ark.)
Jay Rockefeller (W. Va.)
Ken Salazar (Co.)
Debbie Stabenow (Mich.)

Gutless Connecticut for Liebermans saying Aye:
Joe Lieberman (Conn.)

History will not absolve you.

more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/28/195456/183

How did this happen? The Right plowed, fertilized and cultivated this soil over the last 30 years, and plenty of "Democrats" helped them:

From talkleft:

by TChris

We've heard the rhetoric before. Republicans are repackaging their "tough on crime" speeches as "tough on terror" and complaining that anyone who stands in the way of increasing executive power at the expense of individual rights is "coddling" -- criminals or terrorists, your pick.

more: http://talkleft.com/new_archives/015857.html#comments

While not all Democrats are liberal, of course, the swing to fascism could not happen without Democratic support. While I don't think BushCo helped plan 9/11, a good part of the Right must have been, and still is, very happy it happened. The bigger the crime, the more we tremble and surrender to their godly power. Please protect me!

It's as sickening as the old movies where the beautiful and helpless woman trembles in terrified despair while waiting for her knight in shining armor to save her. "Don't worry, darlin', I'll save you!" Bush says, and gallops up on his horse that promptly takes a healthy shit. "Cut!" Rove screams. "Let's do it again, wholesome this time."

So Rove wipes the horse's ass with the Constitution and they do another take.

:puke::puke::puke:

[kentuck]

1. In a matter of days or weeks, they will be saying...

they didn't have all the facts...If they had known at the time of their vote, they would have voted differently. Slap them in the face if they say that bullshit again.

[madmusic]

4. As Daily Kos says...

History will not absolves them.

My contempt and disgust is beyond words.

[helderheid]

2. I wonder what they have on them

[madmusic]

13. No matter what they have on them...

It is not enough.

[MrCoffee]

3. Oh please. They are ALL guilty. They traded the filibuster for what?

30 pieces of silver go a long way in DC these days.

[madmusic]

5. Did they really think they could get any amendments passed?

If so, they are weak and stupid.

If not, they are traitors.

[wakeme2008]

6. See my new signature line

:grr:

[madmusic]

8. Excellent!

[Individualist]

14. You need to make that sig line longer

Thirty-four House dems also voted for it.

[madmusic]

15. And they will have to vote on it again...

To accept the Senate vote before it goes to the president.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

7. Here is their contact info...

Senators:

Carper (D-DE)
202-224-2441 phone
202-228-2190 f ax

Johnson (D-SD)
Phone [phone]
Fax [phone]

Landrieu (D-LA)
Voice: [phone]
Fax:[phone]

Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Lieberman (D-CT)
[phone] Voice
[phone] Fax

Menendez (D-NJ)
202.224.4744
202.228.2197 fax

Nelson (D-FL)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Pryor (D-AR)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Rockefeller (D-WV)
[phone]
[phone] (fax)

Salazar (D-CO)
202) 224-5852 main
[phone] fax

Stabenow (D-MI)
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: [phone]


HOUSE:

Robert Andrews NJ
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

John Barrow GA
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Melissa Bean IL
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]


Sanford Bishop (GA)
Phone- [phone]
Fax- [phone]

Dan Boren OK
202) 225-2701
[phone] fax

Leonard Boswell IA
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Allan Boyd FL
[phone]
[phone] Fax

Sherrod Brown (OH)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Ben Chandler KY
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Bud Cramer AL
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Henry Cuellar TX
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]

Artur Davis (AL)
202) 225-2665 (phone)
[phone] (fax)

Lincoln Davis (TN)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Chet Edwards TX
(202)-225-6105
FAX: [phone]

Bob Etheridge NC
fax at 202-225-5662

Harold Ford TN
P:[phone]
F: [phone]

Bart Gordon TN
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Stephanie Herseth SD
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Brian Higgins NY
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Tim Holden PA
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Jim Marshall GA
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Jim Matheson UT
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Mike McIntyre NC
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Charlie Melancon LA
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Michael Michaud ME
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Dennis Moore (KS)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Collin Peterson (MN)
By fax at 202-225-1593

Earl Pomeroy ND
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Mike Ross AR
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

John Salazar, Co
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

David Scott (GA)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

John Spratt SC
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

John Tanner TN
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Gene Taylor (MS)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[madmusic]

10. Thanks, but

How the hell can that list be so long?

Impossible, but there it is.

[Tesha]

16. They value their jobs more than their consciences.

And the cool part is, given the conventional wisdom
around here about "always voting for the Democrat, no
matter what!", there's no actual way we can punish them
for their behavior until two to six years later!

And of course, by the time we whack them upside the head
with a rolled-up primary opponent, these yapping dogs will
have long since forgotten that we're punishing them because
they crapped on the Constitution back in '06.

Tesha

[BlooInBloo]

9. And next primary, we'll bust our asses to get rid of them....

... just like Liebermann...

[madmusic]

12. Isn't Lieberman ahead in the polls? n/t

[BlooInBloo]

17. (a) We got rid of him from the Democratic Party...

... thus making our party stronger.

(b) Lamont has closed like a 20-point gap to be within a few points now - statistically tied. I expect him to win.


EDIT: The snark/implied criticism of your remark is telling. I give an example of Democrats strengthening the party, and get snark back. And this, to an OP that bitches about "gutless democrats". Can't live with 'em, can't.... Sheesh.

[madmusic]

18. Lieberman Leads in Connecticut

Lieberman Leads in Connecticut

As the Ramble nears its end (whew!), we turn our attention back to our favorite race of this election cycle -- the Connecticut Senate contest.

A new Quinnipiac poll out this morning shows Sen. Joe Lieberman, who is running as an independent, leading businessman Ned Lamont (D) 49 percent to 39 percent. Former state Rep. Alan Schlesinger (R) receives a measly five percent support, while seven percent of the sample remains undecided.

The results are essentially unchanged from an August Quinnipiac survey when Lieberman held a 53 percent to 41 percent lead over Lamont. That poll was conducted just days after Lamont defeated Lieberman in the state's Aug. 8 primary.

more: http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2006/09/ctsenate_lieberman_leads.html

Call it snarky all you want. Would it be possible without Democratic support?

[BlooInBloo]

19. Even accepting that as the most recent....

... that doesn't tell against my (a), which is by far the most important part of my point to the OP.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Well, My Two Guys Are Clean

I sort of expected that. I would have been surprised to have been wrong.
The Professor