Can anyone do a quick translation from Dutch to English, please?

[muriel_volestrangler]

It concerns this news story: http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/nieuwsbericht/asp/artnr/117196/index.html about building a Muslim hospital in Rotterdam.

The particular part I'm interested in getting a good translation for is this, about funding:

Nederlands geld

Sturkenboom presenteert zijn idee vanmiddag op de Zakenbeurs in Rotterdam. Daarna wil hij onderhandelen met zorgverzekeraars Achmea Zilveren Kruis, de grootste in de regio Rotterdam, en DSW uit Schiedam. 'Als zij nee zeggen,' zegt Sturkenboom in de krant, 'gaat het niet door.'

Het ziekenhuis, dat ongeveer 30 à 40 miljoen euro zal kosten, en wordt gefinancierd met Nederlands geld waarschijnlijk uit de vastgoedsector, krijgt een apart zorghotel en een apart halal-restaurant. Mogelijk wordt er ook een kleine afdeling voor spoedeisende hulp geopend.

Before I prejudice you with the translation I've been given (which doesn't seem to agree with the translation I can get via BabelFish), can anyoine give me their translation? Thanks.

The concept and article may be of interest here at DU anyway, so maybe this could be the start of a discussion here too. But accurate translation is needed to be able to discuss the article.

[SmokingJacket]

1. Here's one from a different translator...

"Dutch language counted

Sturkenboom introduces his notion this afternoon on the Business stock exchange in Rotterdam. Then wants to negotiate he with care insurers Achmea Zilveren Cross, the biggest in the region Rotterdam, and DSW from Schiedam. 'As they no say,' says Sturkenboom in the newspaper, does not 'continue the .'

The hospital, that roughly 30 40 million euro shall cost, and is financed with Dutch language money likely from the vastgoedsector, gets an apart care hotel and an apart hall all-restaurant. Possible is there also a small division for spoedeisende help opened."

Or... a much less eloquent version...

"Dutch money Sturkenboom tray one's opinion this afternoon worn the Zakenbeurs within Rotterdam. Subsequently wish he talk with zorgverzekeraars Achmea Silver Loin , the superb within the region Rotterdam , and DSW out of Swiftly. 'Als they not tell zegt Sturkenboom in the paper 'gaat the not through The infirmary , who roughly à 40 million European currency will cost , and is being gefinancierd with Dutch money probably out of the real estate sector , receives one separate zorghotel and one separate halal - restaurant. Potential is being yonder as well as a tiny ward until urgent helper geopend."

[RebelOne]

2. Try this site.

http://www.appliedlanguage.com/free_translation.shtml

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. Thanks, and to SmokingJacket too, but I think I need human knowledge

the machine translations give a rough idea, but since I'm saying a person (who says they are fluent in Dutch) is twisting the meaning, I'm looking for someone who can give an intelligent translation - and possibly then answer a question on the typical phrase usage in Dutch news stories. It's someone I don't know on another site, so I really can't take their word for it.

[tocqueville]

3. the idea of building separated communities based on religion

is doomed to fail. Citizens in a secular country cannot have preferential treatment due to their ethnic or religious background. Not with state money as it seems of what I understand above. Communautarism is a big mistake. If a muslim community wants to start a private hospital that's OK, but they cannot have rules that differ from the general rules (for example segregation of women) and they must admit everybody. And above all no tax payer money.

You cannot have states within states. The British tried that model with their Pakistani community and it became a total (and dangerous) failure.

France has banned that model long ago : we are all sons and daughters of the Republic. Your religion is a private matter and cannot be a claim for special treatment in the public sphere. There are already enough problems in avoiding the spreading of areas populated by a single ethnic group to create a second one with religious based enclaves.

The Dutch have always gone against the general European ideas : as a result they have the biggest drug and prostitution problems in Europe and have very serious racial problems out of a very limited non-Dutch immigrant population (compared to similar populations in Europe).

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. You've picked up on the point of contention

"Not with state money as it seems of what I understand above" - that's what I think, but the Dutch speaker says it is taxpayer money that will build the hospital.

Segregation of women? Very commonly practiced in hospitals - they tried mixed wards in the UK, to save money, and a lot of people complained, from all religions and none, since many people feel embarrassed in skimpy nightclothes in front of patients of the opposite sex. What would be different here would be the doctors and nurses being of the same sex as the patients - which might have employment implications (though not necessarily - from what I know of British family practices, most try to always have at least one male and one female partner, so that patients can register wit ha doctor of their own sex if it's important to them). There might be a question of whether you would always get the best care possible, if you have to duplicate all the teams, but if they're not doing rare specialisation, it should be possible, I think (the doctors and nurses won't have to be Muslim - here's the one English language article I've found about it: http://www.nisnews.nl/public/280906_2.htm).

This isn't necessarily a 'state within a state'; it's working with existing health insurers. I'm not sure I'd call the Dutch immigrant population 'limited' either - 3.1 million out of 16.3 million "of a foreign background", and of those 1.7 million "non-western": see Statistics Netherlands.