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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:36 AM
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President Clinton Jails 938,000 Illegal Enemy Combatants
President Clinton Jails 938,000 Illegal Enemy Combatants

"By Ion Zwitter, Avant News Editor
Washington, D.C., February 2, 2009

A mere two weeks into her tenure, President Hillary Rodham Clinton has announced a sweeping roundup of illegal enemy combatants, the first step in a comprehensive program designed to protect the American people from potential terrorist activities. In accordance with the Military Commissions Act of 2006, the nearly one million detainees will be held indefinitely without trial or recourse to legal counsel until such time as the President determines they no longer pose a threat to the United States and its allies."

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 03:46 AM
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1. Maybe I'll go into the Waterboard business...
:evilgrin:
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:18 AM
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2. This would make me howl with laughter -
if I knew that they couldn't do it to us first.


~snip~


While the names and crimes of the detainees are classified to protect the interests of national security, a clue as to some of their identities could be gleaned by means of a stroll though major government offices around the country. Four of the nine Supreme Court Justices, for example, failed to show up for work, as did approximately 220 congressmen, 52 senators and a number of governors and presiding justices of district and appellate courts. The vast majority of absentees, coincidentally, were Republicans, in particular those congressional republicans who had voted for the impeachment of former president Bill Clinton.

Additionally, the silence at certain major media outlets including Fox News, radio commentators on the Clear Channel network, the Washington Times, The New York Post, the Weekly Standard, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and other news and infoganda providers suggested a number of detainees may have been extracted from those ranks. A significant number of fundamentalist clergy apparently also disappointed their congregations with their unexpected absences.

The detainees, Mr. Grisley said, may include large numbers of unspecified members of the George W. Bush administration, the George H. W. Bush administration, and in many cases both. By an amusing coincidence, he said, many of those detained were the ones most influential in the creation and passing of the law that permitted their indefinite detention.

"This sweep is by no means a witch hunt or a fishing expedition," Mr. Grisley said. "These illegal enemy combatants are definitely guilty of something. We just have to find out what. And thanks to the Military Commissions Act, we have the tools at our disposal to do so."
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cheesloaf Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:51 AM
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5. I love political karma
Snipped from your snip:

"By an amusing coincidence, he said, many of those detained were the ones most influential in the creation and passing of the law that permitted their indefinite detention."
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:11 AM
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6. The whole article is priceless.
Too bad it exists because of what happened today.

Go read this one: "Nearly 21 Million Iraqis Not Yet Killed"

http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=276

It's Rummy and the * administration to a "T."
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:32 AM
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14. Yes, you'd think some history buff would point out what happened
to Dr. Guillotin.
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:48 AM
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15. He's head
of the World Bank now, isn't he?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:40 AM
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24. No, he invented the Guillotine during the French
Revolution, and eventually fell victim to his own invention.
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:43 AM
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25. I was actually
just being facetious, i.e. Paul Wolfowitz = Dr. Guillotine. Tee-hee?
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:06 AM
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31. Sorry, I need to have my humor receptors restimulated or something.
Dr. Guillotin. Yes, I see the resemblance, physically and spiritually



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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 10:47 AM
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32. Uncanny
Give Wolfy a smug smirk and a wig and they'd be indistinguishable.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:44 AM
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26. Welcome to DU cheesloaf! I loved your observation!
:hi:
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cheesloaf Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:13 PM
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36. Thanks for the welcome
and always glad to observe.

:toast:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:11 PM
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35. Hah! 4SCJ's, 222 congressmen, 52 senators, Fox News, fundamentalist clergy
And about those SCJ's congressmen, & senators...

...The absent justices will therefore, in accordance with the Constitution, Article III, Subsection 22b, be indefinitely replaced by new justices to be nominated shortly by President Hillary Rodham Clinton. The same goes for the roughly 900 lower court justices who are also inexplicably absent from work here and there around the country. Ditto all the missing senators and congressmen."

http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=287



Hmmmm... I'm looking forward to President Clinton's reign :evilgrin:

Great article... it made my day ;)

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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:23 AM
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3. Personally..........
I'd love to see it happen. It would be a fitting tribute to the Republican insanity that's taken over our country. Politically, it would be a travesty, the same exact travesty it is now with the RepubliCONS in charge. It wouldn't be good for the country and would establish America as a "rogue state" that every other country in the world could legitimately target.

But like I said, on a personal level.....hah, hah, hah, hah :evilgrin:
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 04:29 AM
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4. Did ya read this part -
"a high-ranking, somewhat stocky elderly statesman and quail hunter from the prior administration with a gravely voice and a faulty heart, tragically expired during the early stages of his humanitarian coerced interrogation," Mr. Grisley said."

"humanitarian coerced interrogation." I can almost hear that coming out of the mouth of Tony Snow.

That web site is a riot. Never been there before. Mucho good stuff to read. And boy do I need something funny to read right now.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:22 AM
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7. From your link..... another story worthy of mention, sorry if
it has been hashed before...

http://www.avantnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=281
19 Year Old Diebold Technician Wins U.S. Presidency
Temporally realigned by admin on 2006/9/25 10:49:05 (23713 reads)

By Ion Zwitter, Avant News Editor
Washington, D.C., November 5, 2008

In a dramatic development that has come as a surprise to pundits and the public alike, a youthful technician with Diebold, Inc. has emerged as the unlikely winner of the 2008 U.S. Presidential election. The president-elect, 19 year old Billy Pustule of Green, Ohio, reached via SMS at the garage apartment by his mother's house in which he currently resides, said he was "real psyched about being the president" and "had big plans for the inauguration party".
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:55 AM
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8. K&R
K&R = Karma and Retribution
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:02 AM
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9. By GOD! Hillary will find the Right-Wing Anthrax Terrorist, even if
we have to torture a few thousand republicans to find him!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:03 AM
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17. I think we could find out who by torturing just a couple dozen. n/t
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:07 AM
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10. snark of the day
"I can disclose that one illegal enemy combatant, a high-ranking, somewhat stocky elderly statesman and quail hunter from the prior administration with a gravelly voice and a faulty heart, tragically expired during the early stages of his humanitarian coerced interrogation," Mr. Grisley said. "While President Clinton regrets this unfortunate occurrence, rest assured any information successfully extracted prior to his death may have had the potential to be at least marginally useful in our anti-terrorism efforts."


K&R :rofl:
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 06:10 AM
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11. "One notable terror suspect she had detained was ..."
"none other than former President George W. Bush. He was led away for questioning."
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:21 AM
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12. You might enjoy this one, too. Same subj., different take
Former President George W. Bush Credited With Saddam Hussein Acquittal

"By Ion Zwitter, Avant News Editor
Baghdad, Iraq, April 22, 2010

Yesterday's surprising acquittal of deposed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein on all counts has been linked to policies and procedures developed and used by former president George W. Bush, Lionel Thrush, a legal analyst with the Legal Analysis Institute for Legal Analysis, said today.

..."I think the acquittal of Saddam Hussein can be seen as the result of a cascading sequence of unfortunate decisions by the former president and his administration," Mr. Thrush said. "Taken individually, I doubt any one of the Bush administration policies could have gotten Hussein off the hook, but when combined they effectively de-clawed the entire prosecution."

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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:51 PM
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38. Is this your site?
Or are you just a fan? Great site!
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 01:33 PM
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39. Yep
Call me "Ion" - and thanks!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:25 AM
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13. PR campaign rushed to convince Republicans that their missing friends
have been "raptured" ...
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 07:53 AM
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16. Sen. Clinton was fierce on the Senate floor against the torture bill
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 07:55 AM by bigtree
they should just leave it at that.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:06 AM
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18. Wouldn't it be great to hear Rush waterboarded on his own show.
:applause:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:37 AM
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22. No
They will have to televise that one live and in HD.:D
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:21 AM
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19. Why the Republicans aren't concerned about this, is beyond me
This law IS fascism personified. Once a government has the ability to 'dissapear' anyone without saying who, what, where, why, or for how long...you've got a despotic government.

Free press? One commentator critical of the government dissapears, and other editorials quickly become a bit more passive, rather than risk dissapearing themselves.

Free speech? People attend an anti-government rally and are arrested. Nobody hears from them again. Their familys never see them again. Alot fewer people attend the second rally. There is no third.

Would Hilary Clinton do this as President? I highly doubt it. I don't even think good ole' W would either, though my doubts are a bit less. The problem is that this law MAKES those kinds of roundups LEGAL. If something is illegal, governments will still break the law. They do it all the time. Yet those laws prevent them from opening doing things like this, which reduces it's frequency, and helps those abused by the government to obtain some semblance of recourse, usually. These laws though will encourage the use of power. Power unchecked doesn't like to sit in the desk drawer. It likes to be used.

Maybe not today, maybe not tommorow, but soon.

Shame and disgrace on all the Senators and Congressmen/women who voted for this bill. Shame. You've just put one more nail in the coffin of a free United States.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:38 AM
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23. It's almost as if they think they'll be in charge forever.
Huh. I wonder why?
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. What's this "almost"....?
And I know you know why. And you know I know you know why..... ;)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 05:24 PM
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37. Exactly. But one thing they never do get is that they are in the
most danger of anyone.

The point of totalitarian control is control, not the ideology. The ideology is used to take control. So you had people sent off to the gulags for insulting Stalin where no one could tell what they had done to insult him. So the point was, that the government decides whether or not you live, the government has control.

Thus if Rummie or Wolfie say the wrong thing to Cheney, though they think what they were saying was fine, Cheney pretends to take it as a threat and they are off to the gulag.

Which is what is so pathetic about freepers. They don't get it. * does not consider them to be part of the "in" group. * looks down his nose at them and WILL lock some of them up to make the point that no one can "control" his own life simply by being "correct." Since the decider decides, there is no way to defend yourself by pleading with King George that you did not mean to insult him.

Morans.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:30 AM
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20. Unfortunately, a more likely headline is:
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 08:36 AM by NewJeffCT
October 31, 2008

Terrorist Sympathy Rally Forces Bush to Invoke New American Safety Law, Suspend Constitution

Tanks roll across Central Park to protect patriots from group with ties to Axis of Evil

With heavy heart, Chancellor Bush declares the 2008 election is postponed until all those connected with Axis are rounded up and sent to Liberty Camps in Alaska.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:34 AM
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21. This is brilliant
and oh so funny :D
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 08:47 AM
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27. The scary part to me is....
that crap like this mobilizes their base. If they suspect this might be true, it works like the old "ban the bible" accusation that helped swiftboat Kerry. The problem is that the freepers think that the Republicans are the "good guys" and wouldn't do something like this, even when all evidence points to the contrary. In a faith based society, factual evidence means nothing.

The freepers are going to read this and think OMG, we can't let that happen. Gotta vote Republican.

Fear, terror, 9/11, Democrats. :scared:
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:11 AM
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29. I considered going with President Frist
but the end result was altogether too chillingly plausible. But good point, and scary.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:00 AM
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33. President Nader would've worked too.
Scare EVERYBODY! :rofl: wonderful website, and much needed humor right now. K & R
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 09:13 AM
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30. My favorite part of this is that we'll be able to make them gay.
Edited on Fri Sep-29-06 09:16 AM by LoZoccolo
Recall that the "gay bomb" was proposed under President Bill Clinton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb

Hillary could just have the chemical sprayed into the detention camps, and after they have been all gay with each other they would have trouble organizing an insurrection. Plus we'll have gay orgy pics of them to blackmail with if they escape.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 11:46 AM
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34. Only 52 Senators were rounded up?
Should be 65. The RepoDem 12 need to go too. And the 35 RepoDems in the House should be added to that list. If "Democrats" want to vote to give the worst President in our nation's history power to do whatever the *&^! he wants, then they are NO better than the Repukes they vote like. They are WORSE than DINOs...they are just plain evil.
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