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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:21 PM
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US fast-food chains sued over carcinogenic chicken
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 10:35 PM by lovuian
WASHINGTON : A US doctors' group on Thursday sued seven leading fast-food chains including McDonald's and Burger King over their use of a "dangerous carcinogenic" in grilled chicken.

The Washington-based Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) filed suit in California "to compel the restaurants to warn unsuspecting consumers".

The group said every sample of grilled chicken products from the seven national chains "tested positive for a dangerous carcinogenic compound called PhIP" during analysis at an independent laboratory.

PhIP is one of a group of carcinogenic compounds called heterocyclic amines (HCAs) that are found in grilled meat.
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Its either mad cow disease e coli in the spinach or now phip in the chicken

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world_business/view/233046/1/.html
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:24 PM
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1. link?
I would believe anything of the meat industry...
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:25 PM
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2. better not eat that backyard BBQ if you're worried...
marinating with barbecue sauce caused a 2.9- and 1.9-fold increase in PhIP (p < or = 0.005) and a 4- and 2.9-fold increase in MeIQx (p < or = 0.001) at 10 and 15 minutes, respectively. Differences in the mutagenic activities of marinated and unmarinated steaks, as measured by the Ames assay, paralleled the differences in PhIP and MeIQx levels. Future studies should test the effects of specific ingredients, including the water content of marinades, and the effect of reapplying barbecue sauce during cooking (to reduce charring) on HAA formation.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10578481&dopt=Abstract
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:29 PM
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4. Sauce is a condiment.
Never sauce the meat while it's cooking.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:37 PM
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7. agreed! marinate in vinegar, water, salt...
and brush on the sauce just before serving.

yum
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:44 PM
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8. With a decent interval
of long, slow heat and wood smoke.

I gotta buy a brisket.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:06 PM
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11. wood is my first choice, charcoal in a pinch
Never gas!

We should throw a party, the eats would be to-die-for. :)
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:30 PM
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12. Oh, hell yeah.
Lump charcoal with hickory chunks.
Pit beans under the rib rack. Throw unshucked corn on the coals.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:26 PM
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3. chicken has become suspect
The health community has always crowed about the benefits of chicken
over red meat beef in terms of health... but this needs be tempered with
the reality of the animal.

Beef, free range and fed on grass, (organic) is a much healthier than chicken farming life.

Anyone who's ever had a chicken mcnugget has had to wonder what part,
exactly, of a chicken is the 'mcnugget'. Is it the penis? Are people being
fed masses of chicken peniii that they become part of the penilee system,
sucking on bad food to die in a hole, all for a battery chicken.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:33 PM
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5. And then there is the ethical aspect
A fact many people are unaware of is that there is no regulation saying the poultry has to be slaughtered humanely....
The humane society has been pushing for it for a while

http://www.hsus.org/search.jsp?query=poultry+slaughter&x=17&y=4

http://www.hsus.org/video_clips/poultry_slaughter_policy.html

Chickens have some of the worst lives of all armed animals generally speaking...
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:50 PM
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10. Wow, free range chickens from now on...
i've been bad and purchasing regular chickens to cook for
the dogs, figuring that a non-organic chicken is ok enough for
canines, but i'm probably wrong in that, i a creating a demand
for something grossly inumane, and the dogs better learn to like
carrots.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-29-06 01:04 AM
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14. That's a poetic image of chicken genitals you evoke, but by law
if a product for human consumption is called chicken, beef, pork etc, it must be made with muscle tissue, not organ tissue. Reference old commercials for Alpo dog food that boasted it contained "beef and beef by-products." By-products are anything that isn't muscle.

What you want to watch out for is any product descriptor modified by the word "flavored," as in roast pork flavored ramen noodles. "Flavored" indicates that a minimum legal standard has not been reached so flavoring has been added, or it is not real but artificial flavor as in chocolate flavored milk. Chicken-flavored McNuggets would be a very bad thing.

But what you _really_ want to watch out for is potted meat products. They're kind of like cat food, only not as healthy.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:36 PM
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6. Sorry guys and gals
Link is up
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 10:45 PM
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9. Congress will declare it's not a carcinogen. There, that's that. nt
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 11:53 PM
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13. And people wonder why I'm vegan
Granted, there's some vegan stuff that's bad, bad, bad for you (and I am pretty good at finding the vegan junk food), but not with these scary compounds. The more charring on your piece of flesh, the more carcinogenic compounds. Pass the tofu nuggets.

And I am willing to bet that any E coli scare in vegetables is because of contamination with animal waste.
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