Don't Blame The Democrats nor The Republicans. It's The People.

[Yavin4]

If the Democrats organized against this bill, they would surely lose in November. Why? Because a majority of the American people are apathetic, lazy, and largely ignorant. Another sizeable portion of the populace would welcome a Fascist government with open arms.

Face facts, this is the country that we all live in. Sane thinking people are a distinct minority.

[EFerrari]

1. That's factually incorrect. Most Americans are against this

illegal war and against torture.

It's only the deluded 33% that still support Junior and most Republican projects.

[redqueen]

5. really?

most are against torture?

i wasn't sure about that...

[EFerrari]

13. Here's a link to a 2005 Gallup poll. It only gives you a summary

wo a subscription but it's pretty clear that most people don't condone the government's use of torture.

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=20170

[nam78_two]

6. There is a difference between being vaguely against something

and actually really really caring/speaking out...

A mild opinion doesn't cut it...I don't personally know anyone who knows or cares too much...

LOTS of very apolitical people out there...

They are all talking about some stupid ABC show premiering tonight called ugly duckling or something...
:eyes:

[omega minimo]

17. Who believes in 33%?

:think:

[atommom]

2. I'm not so sure. If people understood that they themselves were

not immune from imprisonment for life, or from torture, if the Dems had had the guts to make it an issue and make people think about it ... I think things could have been different. I can't forgive them for not at least trying.

[nam78_two]

3. Hard to argue with that

I haven't met one person today in my Librul college town, that votes 95% dem, that even seems to care or think about it...

Its still all videogames, movies and personal stuff...

These are not over-worked, underpaid poor people I am talking about...they have time, money and are educated...go figure..:eyes:

I have been here all day because I can't stand to talk to any of them right now...

[omega minimo]

14. That's why Civics is not taught in school anymore. "Magna WHAT?"

"Habeus Corpass?"

[alarimer]

4. I agree

I am really hating people right now. Stupid, no-nothing morons. Most people I know don't give a damn about any of this- all they can talk about is the lower gas prices.

Of course the local media don't help. All they can talk about is lower gas prices and the latest murder /shooting/car accident in town.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

7. Until we get more impassioned people on our side - we'll get nowhere....

n/t

[boolean]

8. WRONG. It's the media

Notice how the media is ignoring this issue? Just like they always ignore the REAL issues.

[StellaBlue]

11. We've figured out what's going on - others could, too, if they weren't

STUPID.

I've moved past assuming they're ignorant. They must actually be stupid. Most people are stupid.

[nam78_two]

15. I think many people don't care about things that do not directly affect

their lives :shrug:

Thats the conclusion I have come to...They may be nice people in their personal lives, but there is a certain lack of principle there that puzzles me...

I am not talking about Freeper types...they are awful but at least they have a friggin opinion...

60% of the people just don't care about anything but their own lives...so strange

[hang a left]

19. That is exactly what it is.

People do not know what is going on they have been brainwashed.

[StellaBlue]

9. AHA!

You've found the answer.

Argument over.

I'm leaving.

[mdmc]

10. lol

Damn people! Always lazy troublemakers!

[nam78_two]

18. you don't need to be a troublemaker

being apathetic is enough...

[mdmc]

20. it is hard NOT to be apathetic, when things are going so well for us

we are so affluent, comfortable... Can you blame joe six pack for not caring?

Really. I often ask myself, "Why do you care so much? It would be easier just to focus on gettin laid and makin cash..."

[Bitwit1234]

12. The Press

I kept saying it...unless the media lets the country know what the crooked, corrupt and lying republicans are doing, we will never ever be able to let the public know what is going on. And as long as the republicans own the media that's not gonna happen.

[NRaleighLiberal]

16. Sorry...but my feeling is that NO NEWS will tip the VOTERS from

changing things. I've seen dozens of examples of newsbreaks that I was convinced would sway things away from Bush. With the Diebold caveat accepted, it just seems as though the majority of those who come out to vote are getting exactly what they want.

[dave502d]

21. Yavin4 you are 100% right, n/t

[Yavin4]

22. Thanks

As long as debt and gas are cheap, Americans will never really pay attention to what's going on.