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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:45 PM
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We did it once and it looks like we're gonna have to do it again,
stop a war that is. The Protester's with the help from the returning Vets stopped the War in Vietnam oh so many years ago.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:47 PM
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1. Yes, we did. In huge part because of the DRAFT.
Also in part because it was on our nightly news, and people got sick of seeing it.

Neither of those things exist anymore.

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:47 PM
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2. Congress shirking duty, passes the baton to citizens
who have ZERO power--except to lie down in the way and get arrested...
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:51 PM
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3. To my everlasting shame, I admit I am afraid to protest
too loudly. They still have a lien on my body. I don't feel like tempting fate in Iraq a 3rd time...
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:57 PM
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5. sorry to hear that. I am glad you are back here now
and I wouldn't want you to see Iraq again either. In 'nam we had to volunteer to stay longer or in my case that was true, it wasn't they extended you as they are doing today.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:53 PM
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4. a-hem
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 04:59 PM
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6. back then we had a lot more civil rights
They couldn't just arrest you or put you in a wire cage back in those days for protesting.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:09 PM
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8. and I keep forgetting about the microwave weapons
that the generals say they need to test out on americans first, guess who that will be huh
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:02 PM
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7. We've gotta get a LOT more people to protest this time....
Even the record numbers we had the last time didn't do any good. BushCo still went to war despite the record numbers protesting and the great majority of people in this country who were against it.

The people in power are very pigheaded and don't seem to listen to anyone... They don't listen to reason.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:13 PM
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9. in the '60's it was mostly just the younger generation protesting
Edited on Thu Sep-28-06 05:14 PM by madokie
this time we will still have the younger ones with a whole bunch of us old farts and fartees.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 05:46 PM
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10. Let's start next Thursday:

Announcing a Day of Mass Resistance:


OCTOBER 5, 2006


BRING THIS TO A HALT!



YOUR GOVERNMENT, on the basis of outrageous lies, is waging a murderous and utterly illegitimate war in Iraq, with other countries in their sights.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is openly torturing people, and justifying it.

YOUR GOVERNMENT puts people in jail on the merest suspicion, refusing them lawyers, and either holding them indefinitely or deporting them in the dead of night.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving each day closer to a theocracy, where a narrow and hateful brand of Christian fundamentalism will rule.

YOUR GOVERNMENT suppresses the science that doesn't fit its religious, political and economic agenda, forcing present and future generations to pay a terrible price.

YOUR GOVERNMENT is moving to deny women here, and all over the world, the right to birth control and abortion.

YOUR GOVERNMENT enforces a culture of greed, bigotry, intolerance and ignorance.

People look at all this and think of Hitler - and they are right to do so. The Bush regime is setting out to radically remake society very quickly, in a fascist way, and for generations to come.

We must act now; the future is in the balance.

Millions and millions are deeply disturbed and outraged by this. They recognize the need for a vehicle to express this outrage, yet they cannot find it; politics as usual cannot meet the enormity of the challenge, and people sense this. There is not going to be some magical "pendulum swing." People who steal elections and believe they're on a "mission from God" will not go without a fight. There is not going to be some savior from the Democratic Party. This whole idea of putting our hopes and energies into "leaders" who tell us to seek common ground with fascists and religious fanatics is proving every day to be a disaster, and actually serves to demobilize people.

But silence and paralysis are NOT acceptable. That which you will not resist and mobilize to stop, you will learn - or be forced - to accept. There is no escaping it: the whole disastrous course of this Bush regime must be STOPPED. And we must take the responsibility to do it. And there is a way. We are talking about something on a scale that can really make a huge change in this country and in the world. We need more than fighting Bush's outrages one at a time, constantly losing ground to the whole onslaught. We must, and can, aim to create a political situation where the Bush regime's program is repudiated, where Bush himself is driven from office, and where the whole direction he has been taking society is reversed. We, in our millions, must and can take responsibility to change the course of history. Acting in this way, we join with and give support and heart to people all over the globe who so urgently need and want this regime to be stopped.

This will not be easy. If we speak the truth, they will try to silence us. If we act, they will try to stop us. But we speak for the majority, here and around the world, and as we get this going we are going to reach out to the people who have been so badly fooled by Bush and we are NOT going to stop. The point is this: history is full of examples where people who had right on their side fought against tremendous odds and were victorious. And it is also full of examples of people passively hoping to wait it out, only to get swallowed up by a horror beyond what they ever imagined.

The future is unwritten. WHICH ONE WE GET IS UP TO US.

http://www.worldcantwait.org/
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:17 PM
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11. madokie
I just want to say that we CAN do it. Don't take the vibe at DU to mean that people won't protest.

Honestly, as someone who protests several times a week and talks to a TON of people, the party activists in general are the LEAST supportive, but there are a shitload of people out there who are really close to the edge. They will start spilling into the streets. The farmers, the blue-collar workers, the immigrants, the soldier's families. People who may not have faith in the Dems (or Repubs) but who are increasing their faith in each other.

I think the nationwide mass strike Oct 5 will be a shock to many.

:patriot:
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