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Scoot420fla Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:23 PM
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Question about the torture bills
OK, my understanding right now is that the main reason for the urgency in passing this torture bill is to retroactively protect bush and CIA from war crime prosecution now that the Supreme Court has found that they violated the Geneva Conventions. I hear pundits saying that the repubs want this through before recess because they may not have control of congress for much longer...

This makes it sound as ifonce this law passes, bush and everyone are in the clear...but what if the dems DO get congress? Won't they be able to overturn this bill with a new bill? Maybe one that will get enough votes to overturn a veto threat?

I know none of us want this to pass because we, as real Americans, do not want to turture. It is not in our values. But beyond that - from a political perspective, if this bill passes, it is not complete imunity for the bush regime is it? After all, many are pointing out that the bill may not pass Constitutional muster anyways.

Just looking for clarification on this for those who dont watch Senate and House proceeding on a regular basis.
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rrasile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:37 PM
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1. I don't want to torture
try them on the spot. If the present leaders are so dam sure that they are a such a great danger and have committed capital crimes, line them up and shoot the bastards.
I'd love to see a poll on this. I'm betting that those chicken hawks would vote to take no prisoners.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 02:42 PM
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2. Well, I only have a couple of things...
If it is politically expedient to vote FOR torture now, why would it be the opposite, later?

Bush says that HE is the one to decide if a bill is constitutional or not. So, we will see what happens vis a vis the Supremes.

What Bush is looking for is some sort of cover that will give him something to stand on. It is for PR more than anything else. The Carlyle Group will not let allow him to be tried...
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