My God, What Do They Have Planned????

[Junkdrawer]

During the 2002 debate of the Iraqi War Resolution, many “sensible” DUers (myself included) suspected that the debate was primarily a “wedge issue”. In other words, we suspected the main reason for the IWR was to force Democrats to vote for the resolution and thus alienate their base. We thought not even Bush would be foolish enough to invade Iraq without a large international coalition behind him.

So now we have legislation that strikes down Habeas Corpus. And, once again, my first instinct is that this is primarily a “wedge issue” – they want us to stay home for the mid-term elections. Well, experience shows that they may time their legislative outrages as wedge issues, but they also mean to use their new powers.

So I ask: what the hell do they have planned that is so awful that they suspect that dissidents will need to be jailed without hearings?

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

1. We'll Find That Out When It Happens....

Only those planning know the score. Too many possibilites. We'll find out someday though. SURPRISE!!!!

[shadowknows69]

2. When they steal this election

or suspend the 2008 one because of terra. Anyone not getting in perfect goosestep quickly will be taken.

[bif]

3. No more anti-war marches, for starters

[valerief]

14. Oh, yeah, and anyone who protests gets microwaved by the Air

Force.

[Liberal Dose]

4. I was just wondering the same thing.

I think it's another phase in the overall plan, so I posted about it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2242732

[burythehatchet]

5. There is one purpose and one purpose alone

It is to delete you and me when when we become an annoyance. There is no other purpose.

[Bgno64]

6. The criminalization of dissent

This is the blueprint for it. If there's another terrorist attack, this provides the legal mechanism to declare that criticism of Our Leaders constitutes "material support" for terrorism.

And when dissent is criminalized, why, you can invade Iran, Syria, institute a draft, do whatever you please - because gainsaying it makes you a terrorist.

[subterranean]

12. It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

The bill defines "unlawful enemy combatants" as ANYONE "who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States."

That's vague enough to apply it to anyone (including the media) who opposes the war or the administration's policies. We've already seen Cheney and others accuse newspapers of supporting or coddling terrorists simply because they printed articles the administration didn't like.

[madokie]

7. and making a care package for ourselves won't work either

because they'll just not let us take it with us to our new 'digs'.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Halliburton is building new detainments centers... what do you think?

[bullimiami]

9. take yourself over to alex jones and do some reading.

they are planning a wordwide police state with their super rich and powerful cabal running everything. it has already started.

[John Gauger]

10. Nothing new

They want to jail dissidents outraged by today's issues. I don't see this as an indication that they are preparing something so wrong that they will need strong-arm authoritarian tactics to survive the political fallout. They just want to jail us in general. Which is not to say that I don't think they are going to do even more outrageous things as time goes on. That's just what they do.

[OneBlueSky]

11. not sure . . . but they're building detention camps . . . n/t

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[bananas]

13. Read this - just posted by kpete

"DHS eyes House members"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2242273

[Junkdrawer]

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