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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:19 AM
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"It was, after all, not only a most unconservative war"
Article by Geoffrey Wheatcroft in today's Guardian:

The only surprise is that anyone should be surprised at that. For years, the Tory party and the Tory press have been infiltrated by our own neoconservatives, more determined even than Blair to serve the national interest of another country. Under William Hague, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard - egged on by Charles Moore, Matthew d'Ancona and Michael Gove - the Tories came close to being what the socialist leader Leon Blum called the French Communists, "a foreign nationalist party".

Apart from anything else, this has set the party at odds with its followers. I am not an intimate of the thrusting younger Conservatives, I don't write for the Telegraph papers, although I did so 20 years ago, or the Spectator, though I worked for it 30 years ago, and I don't know the "Notting Hill set". But I do know many people in middle England, or at least the part of provincial England where I live. They are of all sorts, young and old, rich and poor, left and right, but plenty of them are instinctive Conservatives. And I sometimes think I don't know anyone who supported the Iraq war.

It was, after all, not only a most unconservative war, dreamt up by doctrinaire zealots lacking the traditional Tory virtues of scepticism and common sense; it was also, if one happens to be English, a most unpatriotic war. Blair staked his career on supporting Bush, and got absolutely nothing in return.

When the Wall Street Journal sneers at "Monday-morning generalship" it might recall that, although the official Conservative opposition supported the war, many senior Tories - Douglas Hurd, Kenneth Clarke, Malcolm Rifkind, Ian Gilmour, Douglas Hogg - always opposed what Rifkind called a foolish and unnecessary war, and warned of calamity. Which Tories were right, and which spoke with the true voice of their followers? And where does Cameron's penitent change of course leave his relations with the neocons on his own frontbench, Hague, Gove and Liam Fox?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1882364,00.html

Quite interesting that the Wall Street Journal chided David Cameron for his comment that "we should be solid but not slavish in our friendship with America." Evidently the Wall Street Journal believes that Britain should be slavish towards America.

Just so you know, David Cameron is the leader of the UK Conservative Party.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 08:27 AM
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1. This part is lovely
or at least the part of provincial England where I live. They are of all sorts, young and old, rich and poor, left and right, but plenty of them are instinctive Conservatives. And I sometimes think I don't know anyone who supported the Iraq war."

If i replace the word 'England' with 'Greater Britain', then the same statement goes here as well, outside
some drunken unemployed, found no supporters for the war whatsoever. But nobody sings the heralds of
blair either, calling him everthing from a fuckwit to *"£!"$ its amazing the richness of british heckelry.
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