Anyone still interested in taking back the majority, sign in here.

[WilliamPitt]

Yeah, I'm pissed about the torture vote.

But if you think that means I'm going to lay down and die before November...

...you're out of your fucking mind.

Anyone else?

[acmejack]

1. Let's kick some Republiclown ass!

[rolleitreks]

19. What's the point? If there is no filibuster today

I give up. Permanently.

This is tyranny, plain and simple.

[mcar]

2. I'm here

Pissed, but here. Let's win first, then take care of other business.

[OhioChick]

3. Not going down without a fight, here! n/t

[hlthe2b]

4. Yes...

but God help us... I am devastated by what is happening today.

I will fight for our founding fathers and what our country once was...

[Daphne08]

5. I'm so disgusted with this Congress I don't know what to do!

I'm almost 60 years old and I've never... NEVER seen things this bad.

I'd like to add that my father fought for this country in WWII. He gave his youth, his innocence and his health for this country, and I personally feel like my father has been slapped in the face!

[acmejack]

10. I'm a disabled vet.

I know the feeling, I was raised in a military family on military bases, I believed. I enlisted in the Vietnam years, I believed. I understand what you are saying, I no longer can believe.

[tkmorris]

6. Oh I'm with you....... BUT

Any Dem running for the House or Senate gets my vote this November, but this torture vote will be remembered. Come the next Dem primaries, in 2008 and beyond, some of these guys are going to get Lieberman-ed.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

16. We're not even done with the current purge...

...and already you're planning the next one?

[tkmorris]

44. Yes

As a matter of fact I am. It's a two step process for me. Take control of Congress back, then replace Pro-corporate, conservative weenies who found it politically convenient to carry a 'D' after their name with actual Democrats. You have a problem with that?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

49. Yes.

Because we're never going to get to step two if we don't get step one accomplished first. One step at a time.

[tkmorris]

71. I already made step one clear, in my first post

Don't look for a fight, I'm not the enemy. Come November I'm all Dem.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

72. Excellent.

That's more than can be said for a lot of people I've seen posting on here today. Thank you.

[Raksha]

99. I'm with you: A Democratic majority THIS TIME at all costs,

but I'm taking names! Believe me, I won't forget.

[truebrit71]

102. Some? How about ALL of them...

..fucking cowards every single one of them...

This will NOT be forgotten, but the thought of John Conyers and Henry Waxman with subpoena power is simply too much to give up on...

When we take back the House we get to CLEAN the House...

[mmonk]

7. Who's lying down?

I am going to work my butt off. That being said, I'm not going to just take this garbage in stride once the election is over. These people need to answer to their actions. They will be held to account for and correct this once a majority.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

73. See the "I'm not going to vote for Ford" thread.

You'd think these people would've learned their lesson in 2000 with Nader.

[gademocrat7]

8. Count me in.

We must take our country back or what's left of it.

[Ohio Joe]

9. I will not be swayed from the task at hand

Right now, for me, it means doing my part here in Ohio to get it under control of the Democratic party.

[Perky]

11. Absa=dang-lootely.

[H2O Man]

12. Yep.

Just getting warmed up.

[soothsayer]

13. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take anymore. I'm in!

[buddhamama]

14. Mr. Pitt, can you do me a favor?

read this thread i posted yesterday and help spread the word.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2232513


to answer your question; the traitors to our country, our Constitution have been noted. I have only begun to fight.


edited for spelling

[RangerSmith]

15. at what point?

At what point do you abandon your principles?

I'm feeling the whole "but we have to do whats right for the party" bullshit wreaks of "shut the fuck up and keep drinking the kool-aid. We know whats right for you!"

You know... I never do well with that regardless of who is saying it.

Felt that way about the vote for the Patriot Act... TWICE... the wiretapping... the torture... I could go on.

Anybody want to wipe that brown stuff off their nose and tell me again how casting a vote for anybody who has voted for this is THE RIGHT THING TO DO...

Or better yet, please don't. Ban me now. I won't vote for ANYONE who voted for this. They are what I despise regardless of their party affiliations.

[WilliamPitt]

21. OK.

Wiping the brown stuff off to remind you. If I can't convince you to vote against the following, then frankly, I write you off as utterly useless, reactionary and a danger to the greater good.

==

Senate President Pro Tempore
Ted Stevens (R-AK)

Senate Majority Leader
Bill Frist (R-TN)

House Speaker
J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL-14th)

House Majority Leader
John A. Boehner (R-OH-8th)

====

Senate Armed Services Committee: MAJORITY

CHAIRMAN: Sen. John W. Warner (REP-VA)

Sen. John McCain (REP-AZ)
Sen. James Inhofe (REP-OK)
Sen. Pat Roberts (REP-KS)
Sen. Jeff Sessions (REP-AL)
Sen. Susan Collins (REP-ME)
Sen. John Ensign (REP-NV)
Sen. Jim Talent (REP-MO)
Sen. Saxby Chambliss (REP-GA)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (REP-SC)
Sen. Elizabeth Dole (REP-NC)
Sen. John Cornyn (REP-TX)
Sen. John Thune (REP-SD)

====

Senate Judiciary Committee: MAJORITY

CHAIRMAN: Sen. Arlen Specter (REP-PA)

Sen. Orrin Hatch (REP-UT)
Sen. Charles Grassley (REP-IA)
Sen. Jon Kyl (REP-AZ)
Sen. Mike DeWine (REP-OH)
Sen. Jeff Sessions (REP-AL)
Sen. Lindsey Graham (REP-SC)
Sen. John Cornyn (REP-TX)
Sen. Sam Brownback (REP-KS)
Sen. Tom Coburn (REP-OK)

====

House Armed Services Committee: MAJORITY

CHAIRMAN: Rep. Duncan Hunter (REP-CA-52nd)

Rep. Curt Weldon (REP-PA-7th)
Rep. Joel Hefley (REP-CO-5th)
Rep. Jim Saxton (REP-NJ-3rd)
Rep. John McHugh (REP-NY-23rd)
Rep. Terry Everett (REP-AL-2nd)
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (REP-MD-6th)
Rep. William Thornberry (REP-TX-13th)
Rep. John Hostettler (REP-IN-8th)
Rep. Walter Jones (REP-NC-3rd)
Rep. Jim Ryun (REP-KS-2nd)
Rep. James Gibbons (REP-NV-2nd)
Rep. Robin Hayes (REP-NC-8th)
Rep. Ken Calvert (REP-CA-44th)
Rep. Robert Simmons (REP-CT-2nd)
Rep. Jo Ann Davis (REP-VA-1st)
Rep. Todd Akin (REP-MO-2nd)
Rep. Randy Forbes (REP-VA-4th)
Rep. Jeff Miller (REP-FL-1st)
Rep. Joe Wilson (REP-SC-2nd)
Rep. Frank LoBiondo (REP-NJ-2nd)
Rep. Jeb Bradley (REP-NH-1st)
Rep. Michael Turner (REP-OH-3rd)
Rep. John Kline (REP-MN-2nd)
Rep. Candice Miller (REP-MI-10th)
Rep. Michael Rogers (REP-AL-3rd)
Rep. Trent Franks (REP-AZ-2nd)
Rep. Bill Shuster (REP-PA-9th)
Rep. Thelma Drake (REP-VA-2nd)
Rep. Joe Schwarz (REP-MI-7th)
Rep. Cathy McMorris (REP-WA-5th)
Rep. Mike Conaway (REP-TX-11th)
Rep. Geoff Davis (REP-KY-4th)
Rep. Brian Bilbray (REP-CA-50th)

====

House Judiciary Committee: MAJORITY

CHAIRMAN: Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner (REP-WI-5th)

Rep. Henry Hyde (REP-IL-6th)
Rep. Howard Coble (REP-NC-6th)
Rep. Lamar Smith (REP-TX-21st)
Rep. Elton Gallegly (REP-CA-24th)
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (REP-VA-6th)
Rep. Steve Chabot (REP-OH-1st)
Rep. Dan Lungren (REP-CA-3rd)
Rep. William Jenkins (REP-TN-1st)
Rep. Chris Cannon (REP-UT-3rd)
Rep. Spencer Bachus (REP-AL-6th)
Rep. Bob Inglis (REP-SC-4th)
Rep. John Hostettler (REP-IN-8th)
Rep. Mark Green (REP-WI-8th)
Rep. Ric Keller (REP-FL-8th)
Rep. Darrell Issa (REP-CA-49th)
Rep. Jeff Flake (REP-AZ-6th)
Rep. Mike Pence (REP-IN-6th)
Rep. Randy Forbes (REP-VA-4th)
Rep. Steve King (REP-IA-5th)
Rep. Tom Feeney (REP-FL-24th)
Rep. Trent Franks (REP-AZ-2nd)
Rep. Louie Gohmert (REP-TX-1st)

[RangerSmith]

26. Wow

"If I can't convince you to vote against the following, then frankly, I write you off as utterly useless, reactionary and a danger to the greater good."

A danger to the greater good? Is this where I get gassed?

I will vote against anybody who voted for this. ANYBODY.

[WilliamPitt]

29. And I will work against that group of people controlling this government

So you be righteous, and I'll be fixing your country.

And no, you don't get gassed. I'll just look for your name at the victory party to make sure you're on the outside looking in.

[RangerSmith]

30. "You'll make sure I'm on the outside looking in?"

How are you any different than them?

You have all the exclusionary "there is only my way or the highway way!" achtung shit down pat.

[WilliamPitt]

34. You just seem so bound and determined

to see everyone bow their heads in defeat.

I'd hate to see you try to join a club you wouldn't want to join if they'd have you as a member.

...and between "gassing" and "achtung," you've already pretty much blown it. Gowdin's Law excludes no one.

[RangerSmith]

39. You know...

define defeat?

I can't in good conscious subscribe to what I see happening today.

Again, back to my original response, abandoning my principles IMHO would be a true defeat for me.

and,

"I'd hate to see you try to join a club you wouldn't want to join if they'd have you as a member."

Yeah, lol, so true! touche!

I have walked away from many organizations in my life over principle. I guess deep down I'd have to admit to having singular intentions these next election cycles... and that is to vote out all those that have been a part of "this."

[WilliamPitt]

47. "I can't in good conscious subscribe to what I see happening today."

Neither can I.

Neither can anyone with half a soul and half a brain.

I'm talking about a solution...unless you're so burnt that you actually believe a new majority in congress would offer this vomit.

If you are that burnt, then I can't deal with you.

If you have an alternate solution that has a chance of success, I'm all ears.

Otherwise, finish venting and pitch in.

(and pssst, it's "consience")

[hootinholler]

68. But how many of the minority seats on those comittees have stood up?

I know there are some that have. Will a Democratic majority cause a spinectomy of the right?

-Hoot

[mmonk]

22. If we're able to get a majority in congress,

we have to let them know it was because of us (not their joining the rightwing in this legislative garbage) and they need to listen to us.

[RangerSmith]

27. Maybe it's just me

but I'm more feeling that when you vote FOR somebody you are letting them know you approve of thier actions.

[bigtree]

32. you are letting them know that your vote matters when you call and write

the day after the election. Majority matters!! No good in the minority eating each other alive.

[RangerSmith]

41. Why the day after?

Why not tell them the day before that they won't be getting your vote "if?"

Seems to me that letting them know the day after only lets them know you'll keep voting for them no matter what.

And yes, at this point in the game I do mean, "No matter, WHAT!"

'Cause if you're voting for someone who supported this torture bill.... well, exactly what would it take for you NOT to vote for someone simply because they have a D beside their name? I mean if this isn't far enough, what is?

[H2O Man]

45. Why not before:

The answer to that is simple -- because today is not the day before the vote. The simple truth is that no dam built today can hold back water that passed yesterday. And so when my friend suggests what we can do today, and you suggest that we do something yesterday, it isn't even a matter of what is fair, only what is possible.

Perhaps you should read the line you have posted: "As long as the differences and diversities of mankind exist, democracy must allow for compromise, for accommodation, and for the recognition of differences." - Eugene McCarthy. That does not seem to fit with the idea of quitting and walking away from groups, something you say you have done "many times" in your life. I would suggest that is an avenue that can only lead to defeat.

[bigtree]

50. what possible good will it do to withhold the vote

if it risks enabling a republican to win?

Primaries make sense, but *this general election has to be about unity and the purpose of removing the republican party from their position of power. They set the agenda on ALL of the legislation since they hold the majority. That's more pernicious than any single vote, even this one. What will come after we've knocked our party candidate down and allowed the republicans to keep power? More bullshit, that's what. All of the talk of punishing the Democrats . . . all of it will come back on US if that effort ultimately defeats them in November and elects their republican rivals.

[annabanana]

17. Of course!.. . . . . .~but~ but ~ but ~

But I sure wish that some kind of SOMETHING could be done to keep this "we're all enemy combatants now" bill from coming to a vote before Friday..

(suspicious packages? an "odd" smell? - pfft as if they could tell)

something, ANYthing...

[VelmaD]

18. I just keep telling myself...

that the Dems who voted for this...their Republican opponents would have voted for it too...and a lot of much worse things as well.

But...I will remember. Yes, I'm gonna work like hell to get back a Democrat-controlled Congress...but, I will remember. These people deserve to know that they are on notice and they will have to answer for their actions in the next Democratic primary.

[w8liftinglady]

20. I am even more determined to get these bastards out of office

[donheld]

23. Consider me signed Willie

I'm not giving up!

[bdamomma]

24. I am not backing down and justice will be done.

[NoPasaran]

25. Let's get those Bush bastards!

And I'll note in passing that my congressman voted on the side of the good guys. It's nice to have Lloyd Doggett back!

[Red Right and BLUE]

28. Present!

I too have had but I'm not fucking rolling over.

[Avalux]

31. I'm with you. Not backing down.

:patriot:

[Imperialism Inc.]

33. Luckily there will be no Democrats on my ballot that voted for that crap.

I'll be voting straight ticket but I can hardly blame anyone for refraining from voting for someone that supports torture. Personally, you could not pay me enough to vote for someone who put in a 'yea' on that bill.

[Warren Stupidity]

35. I will vote reluctantly for a party I have lost all faith in. nt.

[radfringe]

36. waving/raising my hand

I've e-mailed and called my repug senators/rep (Spector/Santorum/Sherwood aka Magic bullet / man-dog / the strangler)

I'm tired of banging my head on the wall and screaming at the floor

Ok so I raise my hand, my fist, my head and make my little post...

now what?

[lapislzi]

37. Climbing into hazmat suit

before descending the election sewer. Fuck, yeah, I'm there. I hope someone's ready with decontamination come November 8.

Once more unto the breach.

Goddamn, this is getting old.

[fed-up]

38. Outraged and present-I will NOT give up! n/t

[madokie]

40. Count me in

Oh, and I will be pissed until this shitstain is removed from office and led away in chains. I don't like liars and I don't like thieves and I detest anyone who 'God' talks directly to.

[stepnw1f]

42. I'm Pissed Will, But I'm Not Leaving!

This doesn't mean I won't go off on a rant "if" some Dems sell out to Nazify this country bit more...

[Efilroft Sul]

43. Will, I'll help take back the majority BUT...

...I want you and all other good people to fight like hell in the 2008 primaries to support viable Democrats running against our party's traitors who voted for torture.

Getting back the majority is only a half measure. Standing up for America and all that made it great is the full measure.

[WilliamPitt]

53. THE POINT

Spend the day, please, thinking about the effect a Dem majority in the House (never mind the House and Senate) will have on the '08 field.

Spend the day thinking about those hearings, about all the truth-telling under oath. For the next two years.

Spend the day thinking about how much more fertile this will make matters for progresive candidates.

See?

SEE??

I'm not yelling about this shit to just make noise.

Think about it.

[Efilroft Sul]

55. I don't have to spend the day thinking about it.

We get the majority back, you help us remove the Vichy Dems and restore this country's laws.

To not do so is to merely swallow the blue Kool-Aid instead of the Republicans' red Kool-Aid.

Quid pro quo.

Besides, there are no guarantees we get those hearings under oath.

[WilliamPitt]

56. Spend the day thinking about it anyway

It keeps you focused.

I've been thinking about it every day since early November 2004.

[Efilroft Sul]

63. Will, I think of restoring America every day.

Look, you want a Democratic majority. I want a Democratic majority. On this, we both heartily agree.

But if We the People don't assert our displeasure in 2008 that our representatives essentially voted to dismantle America and did nothing to rectify their heinous error, then we're essentially trading the Republicans' version of tyranny for the supposedly enlightened despotism of the Democrats. And on this matter, I will not put party before country.

So in short, let's get the majority back, yes. But if the Democrats don't recant their vote and do something to restore this nation's laws, they have to be replaced by someone in the party who is progressive.

* Edited for a horrible first attempt at writing a Subject line.

[WilliamPitt]

65. Agreed

But first things first.

:toast:

[Efilroft Sul]

66. Cheers to you, too!

:toast:

Preferably a Sam Adams Boston Lager.

[WilliamPitt]

67. Meh

Bring me a good IPA. :)

[MadHound]

69. I've spent days thinkng on those issues Will

And sadly, my conclusions all boil down to "two party/same corporate master system of government"

What effects would a Dem majority have in Congress? Gee, looking back at those halcyon times in the ninties, what did we get? Laws like NAFTA, welfare "reform", the '96 Telecom Act, and on and on. Not much there, just a kinder, gentler form of corporate rule.

As far as hearings go, what hearings? Already Pelosi is saying that impeachment is off the table<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2849270> And I don't hear much stirring about any other sorts of hearings.

And how in the hell will this make matters "more fertile" for progressives? Hell, liberals and progressives have been marginalized in the party for years, told to shut up and vote straight party line. You think that a victory of centerists, DLCers, and torture apologists is going to suddenly make it easier for those of us on the "lunatic fringe" to get into office. Please, pull my other leg:eyes:

I have thought about all of this, and more. And frankly I've come to the conclusion that it is past time for everybody in this country, right, left and center to take a moral stand. For otherwise, like with any unruly child, if you keep awarding members of Congress with your vote, no matter what atrocious, immoral, outrageous issues they support, they will only continue to support such issues, and in fact come up with even more outrageousness.

Frankly, if we had chastised these people for their stances on the Patriot Act and the like back in '02 and '04, we would have had a crop of House and Senate members who would have been fighting this torture bill now with everything they have. Instead, we were urged to go along to get along, and reward the bad behaviour with our vote. Now, we're on the verge of being a country that engages in torture and is quickly becoming a pariah state. And once again we're being treated to the spectacle of the Dems rolling over, not putting up a fight. On a basic moral issue like torture! Yet you urge us to continue to reward this behaviour? What, you want to see the Dems fail to put up a fight some more, over even more basic human rights, like freedom of speech or a state sponsored religion? Sorry, I don't buy that line.

It's a good thing that you're a journalist Will, not a psychologist. Any basic psychology class will tell you that if you reward bad behaviour, such behaviour will only increase and become worse. This doesn't only apply to individuals, but to social groups as a whole.

Think about it.

[DinahMoeHum]

46. I'm in, for now.

But if things don't change after November, if we don't win at least one house of Congress, well, all bets are off. What I will wish for next is not fit for discussion here.

[gully]

48. I'm in, but I highly suggest that those DEMS who supported this are out on

their ass (with a viable alternative) in two years.

Lieberman was the first to go. The Lamont win is even more important now, to set a precident for change.

[Hubert Flottz]

51. I'm with you on this!

Lieberman was different. WHY? Because the repub running against Joe in Conn. didn't stand a chance. The drubbing of Lieberman did exactly what we wanted it to do. It sent a merssage without taking a chance of losing a seat in congress to a repub. Unless Joe comes back and wins and I don't think it will happen.

If we don't take congress back this time, there won't be enough left of America to save "NEXT TIME". We need to put the country back on it's feet and then we need to address the skunks in the democratic party in the years to come. Without a country there will be nothing left standing to fix! Another two years of Bush's unchecked power and welcome to the fourth Reich...you ain't seen nothing yet!

[lonestarnot]

52. Yeah, out of their fucking mind!

[cali]

54. Absolutely with you, Will.

Yes, I'm saddened by Sherrod Brown's vote, but I still want to see him in the Senate. I want Leahy back as Judiciary Chairman, and Kennedy as chair of Health and Education. I want to see dems setting the agenda in the House. It's the only option.

[il_lilac]

57. present

and accounted. (but still holding accountable)

[Arkham House]

58. *sigh* Of course...

...this should go without saying.

[never cry wolf]

59. 5 words. John Conyers with supoena power....

Hold your nose and keep your eyes on the prize, guys.

[KoKo]

84. Sadly Conyers will never be allowed to Chair the Judiciary. The DLC

will make sure of that and it will be business as usual. It's just the way it is. Doesn't mean we should give up but it's going to be a long time to take back our Constitution.

[IndyOp]

60. Whereever you are in the US - Vote Conyers & Kucinich!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2242017

[sinkingfeeling]

61. I'm really trying to find some way out of this nightmare! I want my

country back....back to where you didn't have to worry each day that another right wasn't destroyed or that we were going to bomb another country.

[derby378]

62. Hell, yeah, I'm still on board

I'm a Democratic precinct chair, after all. But we need to find a way to make the compromisers pay.

[Turn CO Blue]

64. Still on board. No other choice, anyway. Either that, or die.

I want our guys/gals in charge of those committees. I want my country back!

[bottomofthehill]

70. I'M IN We need a Democratic House and Senate

TO start to roll back some of this craziness.

[Sugarcoated]

74. This makes me

want to fight HARDER

I went into a fetal position after the selection in 2000 - never, ever again.

[LeftCoast]

75. Beware of Concern Trolls - They seem to be the troll o' choice this

election season...

[helderheid]

76. Will I've asked you before but never heard back...

what do we do about the goddamned fucking machines? Don't get me wrong, I will vote regardless but WHAT DO WE DO if they steal it AGAIN? Lord knows they got away with it for the past 3 elections.

[Sugarcoated]

77. There's a thread here to write to your Reps and Senators

about the emergency paper ballots bill Boxer is proposing. Put the pressure on - at the very least it can be used to beat pukes in the head with going into Nov

[helderheid]

78. Did that alreafy - doing all I can

Thanks! :hi:

[ceile]

79. Count me in!

[Lone_Star_Dem]

80. Yeah, I agree

I don't like it one damn bit, but I do agree the number one issue is getting back control. Take these idiots out in the next primary election don't let them get away with this, but don't give the R's another term in control.

[Ryano42]

81. F them... only way to CHANGE is to VOTE

and to help as many others as possible to VOTE. :patriot:

[rockymountaindem]

82. Me too

I'll be voting straight (D). Probably going to win some of those races too. Thanks Both Ways Bob Beauprez!

[tex-wyo-dem]

83. I'm in!

I mean, what other choice do we have, really.

Politics is being played...the Dems are sticking to their strategy of letting the Rethugs self-implode; but at what cost?

[LSK]

85. YES - JOHN CONYERS JOHN CONYERS JOHN CONYERS

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[BelgianMadCow]

94. .

[Cobalt Violet]

86. We need the House.

:kick:

[windbreeze]

87. Signing in...n/t

[Coexist]

88. Okay.

I will hold my nose and vote for Nelson.

[Rex]

89. No one is going to laydown and die, that is stupid talk.

I can't believe I see people posting threads about it. We the People will take back the country, one way or another. They can't stop us ALL.

Strength in numbers.

[undeterred]

90. I am personally going to see that one House seat

has somebody new. Sensenbrenner is going to be out on his ass, Conyers will be Head of the Judiciary Committee, and Bryan Kennedy will be representing WI-5.

[KingFlorez]

91. I think some people must want the Republicans to keep their majority

A lot of these people here just don't get it. So you don't like how some voted, that's no reason to throw them overboard.

[paulk]

92. count me in

:dem:

[BelgianMadCow]

93. One more, need MANY more

[Matariki]

95. I confess I'm losing faith that the elections won't be rigged. again.

BUT - that won't stop me for working hard for November.

[Matariki]

96. If we DON'T take back the majority in November

then what? I've been asking myself that lately. I won't be able to accept (however the media spins it) that a loss is *anything* but a rigged election. So, then what?

[truebrit71]

103. I have similar concerns as you..but let's wait 'til 11/08 ..

...to join the circular firing squad...

[Matariki]

107. I'm NOT blaming the Democrats - no circular firing squad here

I have argued blue in the face with some of my friends who never vote because they think 'both sides are the same' or 'the vote is rigged'. And now, I really can no longer argue that all our votes are fairly counted.

So I wonder, what will I do if the Dems lose this November. I know I'll be afraid - afraid that we really have lost our democracy and afraid of what "they'll" do next. Will people hit the streets in protest - I would certainly be there. Do I leave the country and if so where? Because I think that if the Republicans keep the majority this fall, things will get very, very ugly. More and more of our rights will disappear, the war will expand, the draft will be reinstated.

I hope I'm being unduly paranoid and pessimistic today.

[AX10]

97. Judiciary Chairman John Conyers is a good reason to vote this fall!

[cynatnite]

98. Damn straight, Will!

This isn't over by a longshot. I'm not going to whine that 'it doesn't matter anymore' and cry in my beer. This is more reason to fight and damn it, I'm fighting!

[proud patriot]

100. Didn't I already sign up for this

:-) I believe my answer was "anything but cheat"
when you asked me if I was willing to do what it takes
to win .

[ncrainbowgrrl]

101. I'm with you!

Let's take it back.

[greatauntoftriplets]

104. Me!!

Of course, I am in the enviable position of living in a state where both Senators (Durbin and Obama) opposed that piece of trash legislation. And neither is up for election this year. My Congressman (Danny Davis) also voted no.

:D

[IChing]

105. I'm in until this election then after that

who knows.

[Parche]

106. HELP OUT

If you really want to help

I am on Bryan Kennedy's campaign to defeat Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin 5) Congress

Help me defeat that whiny Sensenbrenner

Bryan is about 5points down in the polls, it is very close.

This would be a huge gain for us, and a big upset/loss for them.



BRYAN KENNEDY FOR CONGRESS

[ScreamingMeemie]

108. I'm in.

[WilliamPitt]

109. punt

[eridani]

110. Count me in

Wish they had filibustered, but I'm still proud that every single WA Democratic legislator voted against this abomination.

[Penndems]

111. Something for you and every DUer to think about, Will . . .

With the suspension of the Great Writ of Habeas Corpus, the only thing standing between America and a Bush dictatorship is Bush himself.

The Village Idiot could order the detention of all Members of Congress, all Federal judges and high-ranking people in the Executive Branch who Bush perceives as being disloyal. Once Congress and the Federal judges are arrested, they won't be entitled to their day in court. Thus, Bush could be considered a dictator.

This evening, Congressional Democrats and GOP Members who have sided with them, irregardless of whether they cast a "yea" or "nay" vote for Senate Bill 3930, may have unwittingly approved their own arrest warrants. Evidently, that thought must not have crossed their minds during the Senate roll call.

Sure, I'll vote a straight Democratic ticket on November 7th. Let's just hope that Bush doesn't have them imprisoned, once they take the Oath of Office.

[Laurab]

112. Sick at heart, but signing in.

I'm beyond being pissed, really - watching the hearings, and seeing the republicans making up their nonsensical excuses for voting against EVERY amendment made me ill, and I knew there was no way in hell it wasn't going to pass. I'm more sick to my stomach, and heartsick than pissed today - I'd prefer to be pissed, and probably will be in a day or two. I just can't believe that I watched SO many republicans on tv basically cheerleading for TORTURE - and that's exactly what it was.

We HAVE to take back the majority - it's our only viable option, and the only thing that gives me hope. I will not give up my hope.

[Jersey Devil]

113. Absoforkentutely! I will not ask Menendez to walk the plank tomorrow

I am cutting him out of my Will however.

[geomon666]

114. I don't vote for torturers. n/t

[mb7588a]

115. yes i'd like more spineless dems.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

I'll be doing fulltime GOTV for a state sen. candidate.

[johnaries]

116. Even though Ford voted Yea, I will hold my nose and vote for him.

I hope that he only voted for it so Corker couldn't use his vote against him in the Senate race. But I will be letting him know that if we take back the Senate he better be voting to rescind it or I will NOT vote for him again!

[Raffi Ella]

117. AYE!

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