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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:27 PM
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We Are Now A Nation That Sanctions Torture.
God Help Us.

House Passes Detainee Bill as It Clears Senate Hurdle

WASHINGTON, Sept. 27 — Congress took major steps on Wednesday toward establishing a new system for interrogating and trying terror suspects as the House approved legislation sought by President Bush and the Senate defeated efforts to alter the measure.
The House, in a politically charged decision, voted 253 to 168 in favor of extensive new rules governing the questioning of terror suspects and bringing them before military tribunals. The Senate was expected to follow suit on Thursday, which would deliver Republicans a major national security victory before the elections.
In the House, 219 Republicans and 34 Democrats, many in more competitive districts, supported the bill; 160 Democrats and 7 Republicans opposed it; the opponents included the Democratic leadership and major party voices on the military and intelligence issues.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/28/washington/28detain.html?hp&ex=1159416000&en=1ed7d9b5bb75f703&ei=5059&partner=AOL
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:29 PM
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1. No torture in my name
This Republican government can pass all the inhumane laws they want. They won't be in my name.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:31 PM
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2. Bastards! I'm won't to let you write this into our system of government!
:grr:
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:31 PM
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3. NOT YET!

Come on Senate! Aren't there any leaders?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:32 PM
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4. No, not yet--wait till the GOP Senate passes it, and the Monkey signs it
THEN your statement will be correct.

Pity more people didn't make a few phone calls to GOP congresscreatures up for reelection this NOV who voted for this thing.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:32 PM
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5. Yep, so the next time they start pointing out countries
who violate human rights, perhaps Uncle Sam should look into a mirror.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:33 PM
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6. kcik
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:35 PM
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7. when....
....do we start building the crematoriums?....
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:37 PM
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8. And then there is this...
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:37 PM
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9. And the Democratic traitors are:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll491.xml

Andrews
Barrow
Bean
Bishop (GA)
Boren
Boswell
Boyd
Brown (OH)
Chandler
Cramer
Cuellar
Davis (AL)
Davis (TN)
Edwards
Etheridge
Ford
Gordon
Herseth
Higgins
Holden
Marshall
Matheson
McIntyre
Melancon
Michaud
Moore (KS)
Peterson (MN)
Pomeroy
Ross
Salazar
Scott (GA)
Spratt
Tanner
Taylor (MS)










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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:22 PM
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13. Murtha voted AGAINST it
At least he understands that TORTURE is not what he fought for when he was in the Military,
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:41 PM
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16. Yes, I know - that's why his name isn't in the list.
I'm not sure why you felt the need to yell at me for insinuating or saying that he voted for it, when clearly I did not.

:shrug:
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-28-06 09:25 AM
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18. Sorry, but I need to praise my own Representative
As should anyone else do to theirs when they do right. We should NOT just list the negative but also the Positive, i.e. WHO VOTED AGAINST THIS MONSTROSITY.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:30 PM
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14. SHERROD BROWN?!?!?!?!?
Sweet Christ. :banghead:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:34 PM
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15. That surpised me, too.
I've donated to Sherrod Brown, and voted for him to be helped by the Progressive Patriots fund.

That was before he voted for the Torture-Military-Tribunals bill.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 09:39 PM
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10. Yes. We sure are
Edited on Wed Sep-27-06 09:40 PM by Solly Mack
In our name...the tortured don't scream out against republicans...they scream out against America and Americans.





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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:38 PM
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11. Where are all those Patriotic, Flag Waving, Freepers now? nm
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:02 PM
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12. Our nation has "sunk" to this?
In my 67 years of life I would never have thought my country would believe that torture is the "American Way"........shame!!
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Spike from MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:57 PM
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17. Hey, they're just trying to do what's right for the country.
I don't understand why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about this bill. After all, Congress is passing this bill to benefit us all.

You know how we've all been complaining about outsourcing and how they're sending jobs overseas? Well, once this bill passes, they'll no longer have to outsource "extraordinary renditions" because they'll be able to do them right here in the good ol' USA!!! Our government will be employing hard-working, tax-paying Americans to do this job on American soil and they'll be paying them with American dollars!!! What could be more patriotic than that? I don't understand why some people have a problem with this. I guess those that do must really hate 'Murika.

:sarcasm: <- As if it's needed.
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