This is all just beyond the pale. Does anyone think they're doing it

[woodsprite]

on purpose just to get the other side riled up enough that riots akin to the Vietnam era will happen. Then they can legally put everyone in their Haliburton-built work camps. They don't care what they do just as long as we're against it and it pisses us off - that seems to be the common thread for all of the stuff they're pullin'.

[MrModerate]

1. Please define "this all" n/t

[woodsprite]

2. Well, the torture/detainee rights, GC, the built-in immunity for *co. n/t

[MrModerate]

8. Naah, they're too cowardly to court civil disobedience . . .

Just like in Iraq, they expect the people to acquiesce to whatever mad governing scheme they come up with. (I'm sure they wouldn't mind if we strewed flowers in the paths of their congressional candidates, but I don't think they're expecting it.)

[Bluzmann57]

3. Sigh...

another day, another strange conspiracy theory.

[treestar]

5. The way they work has proven they are tricky and do things this

way. So I don't think it's that strange to wonder about it. But I don't think it would work. The sheeple don't care. That is the only CT I have. They know some people will object, but they don't have to worry about those people, because they know the masses won't even notice or can be easily satisfied with glib slogans.

[Amy6627]

4. If you want to see something really scary, google Rex 84.

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. the bush guys want to make it look like they are fixing a problem

and making headway on the terrorism threat by looking tough on this torture thing. It's all bullshit, they know that they didn't get any results with torture. It has to do with daring the Dems to come out against it & trap them into looking weak. The whole exercise is purely political.

[tulsakatz]

7. no, I think they are just greedy assholes....

...basically they want as much power as possible. I honestly don't think they care if anyone else likes it.

Another thing is.......they have to do it now, before the election. If Democrats do get a majority as they expect, Bush won't be able to anything else in the next 2 yrs!!!