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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:00 PM
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Kids Worshipping to a George Bush Picture
You've seen the ad here on DU about "Jesus Camp." What is it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&mode=related&search=
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:06 PM
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1. Another fascism characteristic for this country, in fact all of the
...14 fascist characteristics come out in this movie:

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism
by Lawrence Britt
Spring 2003
Free Inquiry magazine


Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .


Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.


Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/The_14_characteristics_030303.htm
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:11 PM
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5. we have hit all points of fascism listed
sickening isn't it??
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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:06 PM
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2. Jesus Camp - Movie Trailers
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:09 PM
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3. well it's not the GW picture which is the worse
it's the worshipping "techniques" in itself. In France this would be considered as a cult, the children taken to a psychologist, the parents monitored by social workers, and the cult leaders jailed.

this is really disgusting

it's lower than Taliban level
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:10 PM
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4. lol @ RW retards
Pathetic morons.
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 10:58 PM
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6. Why would you do this to kids, sick SOB. n/t
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:37 AM
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7. To suicide bomb abortion clinics?
And gay bars?
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:40 AM
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8. Our answer to Islam's "indoctrination" of kids
I saw a snip from the trailer. and the founder says if we don't get on the ball and enlist our kids in the religious war, and fast, we're gonna be screwed.

Don't know if I have the fortitude to see this.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 10:51 AM
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9. When Jesus said "Turn the other cheek"...
He meant, do not become that which you despise.

Guess this camp didn't get it.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:45 AM
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11. How about the answer to ALL you nutjobs is: critical thinking skills nt
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:44 AM
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10. "Thou shall not pray to false idols or graven images."
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 11:46 AM
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12. It's the radical indoctrination of children into a cult.
That's about it in an nutshell. Any religion can have a fringe element - this movie showcases it.
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