This part of the NIE is a little chilling.

[americanstranger]

I just read the whole thing, and this part at the very end is a little weird:

Anti-US and anti-globalization sentiment is on the rise and fueling other radical ideologies. This could prompt some leftist, nationalist, or separatist groups to adopt terrorist methods to attack US interests. The radicalization process is occurring more quickly, more widely, and more anonymously in the Internet age, raising the likelihood of surprise attacks by unknown groups whose members and supporters may be difficult to pinpoint.

• We judge that groups of all stripes will increasingly use the Internet to communicate, propagandize, recruit, train, and obtain logistical and financial support.

Is it me, or does that part of the NIE seem like it was tacked on?

And does it read like it's specifically directed at this country to anyone else?

Struck me as weird. Watch Bush grab this and exploit it.

- as

[bananas]

1. exploit it like this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2228369

[converted_democrat]

12. Jesus, no..

This is getting too far out of control.. BTW, thank you for posting that on this thread, I would've missed it otherwise..

[Straight Shooter]

2. Tony Snow mentioned this in the press conference yesterday.

Use of the Internet is helping terrorism.

Of course terrorists are going to use every tool at their disposal. But I know what you're saying, and I agree, bush and his gang are going to seize this opportunity to monitor the Internet the same way they monitor telephone calls.

In other words, they're already doing it, not just to suspected terrorists, but to everyone, and I'm just waiting for them to announce their "Protecting the World Act" in which they seize some major control of the Net.

[midnight]

24. Did he also mention that attacking foreign countries, and

destroying the lives of innocent people is also fueling terrorism?

[Straight Shooter]

29. I believe he forgot about that minor detail.

Tony has sooo much on his mind, you know, it's hard to keep up.

:sarcasm:

[babylonsister]

3. That info you picked is probably exactly why dimson released

these pages.:grr: One way or another, be very afraid!

[druidity33]

26. be not afraid, sister...

That's just what they want. Head high, chin up... be ready.

:headbang:

[mom cat]

4. Anti-US and anti-globalization sentiment is on the rise and fueling other

radical ideologies.

This is a terrifying statement. Anti-globalization is NOT a radical ideology. It is a cry for democracy instead of corportism. Be very afraid and angry as hell!

[malaise]

8. It is to these goons

Remember the fascists are only concerned with looting resources and increasing profits for themselves and their corporations.

[lostnfound]

5. I totally agree and had the same reaction.

Very interesting to see it in this report. I actually don't think that it was "tacked on" -- I think it's part and parcel of who they see the enemy as.

[lonestarnot]

10. Yes, anyone who does not agree with their nutfuckery.

[bryant69]

6. Occam's razor

Is the internet usable by extremists, and if it were used by them would it be valuable? Yes and Yes.

So we are presented with two possible explanations for this statement - the authors of the report believed it accurately described a tool terrorists might use, or, they threw it in there to have an excuse to come down on Democratic Underground and other leftist websites. I think the first explanation more likely.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[lonestarnot]

11. Ok then why didn't they list toothpaste, mouthwash, duct tape and

C4?

[bryant69]

18. I don't know - i would think those would be in a different section

The internet is a type of tool - used for recruitment and communication - probably not to a great extent because it is not secure.

It's probably more useful for recruitment and propoganda.

Do you think that terrorists, in so far as they exist, don't find the Internet useful?

Bryant

[lonestarnot]

22. I do not disagree that they may not find the tool useful, however

monitoring and control of the freaking net is not the answer. Surrender another freedom your answer?

[bryant69]

23. May I sincerely apologize for whatever I've done to offend you

Monitoring yes, controlling no. And there should be limits on how far in they should monitor, as well. Watching certain message boards, yes - digging into peoples hard drives, that should take a warrent.

As for controlling - that's impossible I suspect, but even if it were possible, it would certainly be a really bad thing.

Bryant

[lectrobyte]

13. DU is "leftist"? Hardly.

[lonestarnot]

16. bwwwwwaaaaa

:rofl: The most simple of explanations attempted are attempted by the lazy.

[bryant69]

17. I suppose it depends on where you stand

Perhaps they are to the right of you.

[lonestarnot]

20. Dee Dee Dee.

Brilliant fucking observation.

[StraightDope]

7. Rec #5...

Let the demonization of the interneto begin!

[lonestarnot]

9. Yikes creepie!

[BelgianMadCow]

14. Chilling indeed. Also, it makes no sense :

"Anti-US and anti-globalization sentiment is on the rise and fueling other radical ideologies. This could prompt some leftist, nationalist, or separatist groups to adopt terrorist methods to attack US interests."

All of a sudden anti-globalization sentiment fuels other radical ideologies? Which ones then?
And leftist used right next to "radical ideology" and nationalist/separatist.

That language makes me go HUH big time.

Combined with Detention Camps & the Torture bill, well...

[Canuckistanian]

15. It reads like a RW screed

It sounds like it put in at the insistence of a Bushbot trying to get Internet access restricted, or CHANNELLED THROUGH LARGE SERVICE PROVIDERS where it can easily be monitored.

[lonestarnot]

19. They've attempted use of chester the molester, terra, and

identity theft. Guess we better get the hell off the internets, because while running through these tubes, we could hit a tree.

[barbtries]

21. agreed

[bonito]

25. Question, who is the prime backer of globalization?

[Joanne98]

31. The G8! Or the Bilderburger's depending on who you ask!

[The Backlash Cometh]

27. Well, who is he talking about? Those terms are so broad.

leftist = Democrats?
nationalist = conservative right-wing groups?
separatist = extremely conservative right-wing groups?

[Joanne98]

28. Globalization is the holy grail for them!

Of course they are going to single out the left because they are the ones who really understand the "business" side of what they're doing. God is great, but not great enough to spark and all out revolt by the whole planet. Pointing out the GREEDY BASTARDS economic tricks, really FUCKS THEM UP! Bravo to all the LW globalization haters!

[Joanne98]

30. "nationalist" Isn't that code for "God Bless America" GUN NUTS!

Maybe those guys should wake up before King George takes their guns away!

[lala_rawraw]

32. i checked... it is part of the NIE, not added after

It is real in other words.

[KansDem]

33. An opportunity to privatize the internet?

The internet can be used by terrorist groups made up of radical individuals. Therefore, all internet use should be controlled by corporations to make sure "good use" is made of it. After all, you never hear about "terrorist corporations."

Be prepared for the "Help Americans Use the Internet Wisely" Act (HAUIW) which will assign large chunks of it to corporations who will use it to advance their particular propaganda while suppressing free speech