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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:29 AM
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Amazing 3D pictures: World Trade Center attack
As United flight 175 flew toward the World Trade Center south tower, Carmen Taylor took a photo from the Ellis Island ferry, docked at Battery Park. At the same time, someone identified as Michael Hezarkhani was taking a video of the same scene, apparently somewhere very near Taylor, but I haven't been able to find any more info about the video except that it was included on a CNN DVD. A second or two later, Taylor took a another shot just as the fireballs were erupting from the tower. From Hezarkhani's video, it's possible to extract the two frames that were taken at approximately the same time as Taylor's snapshots. You may have seen these pictures before, but I doubt that you've seen them in 3D, and the effect is chilling. NOTE: This is NOT a "9/11 conspiracy theory" post, so I will beg people on both sides of that to please not treat it as such and get this post banished! (There's already a thread on the September 11 forum for that; drop by if you like.) But I believe these pictures are just so astonishing, I wanted to share them with people who do not visit that board, so I hope the moderators will allow it to stay.

Two pictures of the same scene taken from two slightly different angles happens to be the basis of "stereo" or 3D photography -- e.g. like the antique stereoscope invented in the mid-1800s and the View-Master invented in the mid-1900s. Each eye sees a slightly different perspective of the scene, and our brain's vision processing system interprets differences in angles for different objects as differences in distance.

I have taken those two pairs of pictures and run them through a great freeware program called StereoPhoto Maker. This program uses an algorithm called SIFT to identify common points in a poorly aligned "stereo pair" of pictures and do any necessary resizing, rotating, perspective correction, and horizontal and vertical shifting to make a properly aligned stereo pair. (I should note that this is simply a convenience; the same alignment can be done manually if you have the patience. The program is not "synthesizing" the 3D; that's already in the pictures because they were taken from two slightly different locations.) Below are the very interesting results. These pairs turn out to have a "hyper-stereo" effect, which is caused by the two cameras being farther apart than your eyes, which causes an exaggeration of the 3D effect. (Because of this exaggeration, hyper-stereos tend to look like pictures of small-scale models. Hyper-stereos cannot be taken with standard two-lens stereographic cameras because they require a greater separation than that.)

These first sets of three pictures in a row are "left-right-left" sets: The first and second picture in each set form a "parallel view" pair, while the second and third form a "cross-eyed" pair. That is, the first-plus-second pair can be viewed in 3D by relaxing your eyes as if looking far into the distance until those two images overlap. The second-plus-third pair can be viewed by crossing your eyes as if looking at something close until the two images overlap. (You may find this method easier if you start by looking at your fingertip placed about half-way between your eyes and the picture pair, then move it back and forth until the images beyond appear to be about overlapped, then shift your focus directly to the pictures without changing the angle of your eyes.) In either case, if you can get the pictures to overlap fairly closely, your brain should take over and fit them the rest of the way together so that you see a 3D view.





These are larger versions of the parallel views, for any of you who happen to have a stereo viewer. (Stereo photography is a great hobby, by the way.)





Here are "color anaglyphs" of the pictures, which can be viewed with the type of 3D glasses that have red-and-cyan (blue/green) lenses. (These are the type of glasses used for the Spy Kids and certain other movies, if you have those DVDs. The photos above look much better if you can manage the freeviewing, but in case you can't but have the glasses):





Finally, here are analglyphs for the older style red-and-blue 3D glasses (like the old comic books):







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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:57 AM
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1. wow, very cool-- the sense of depth is astounding...
...especially in the explosion shot. I use the parallel view method. Very nice images!
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:27 PM
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5. "Nice"? n/t
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 08:04 PM
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10. nice "images...."
Sheesh.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:38 AM
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2. Kick
(The board is moving fast today; kick for folks just getting here.)
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:18 PM
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3. (Kick for evening folks - n/m)
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:26 PM
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4. .
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:29 PM
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6. interesting
Thanks
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:32 PM
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7. Why hit a side? To weaken the superstructure?
When this sleigh ride first started, I was with the controlled demolition people. Now, I believe the planes took down the towers. I just had a relapse from looking at those pictures. :(

A crime unsolved is an injustice to the dead. Hear that FBI? Okay, you know what - I've been saying that for years...

As a Texan, I call out to the Texas Rangers, you have a duty to America. We don't get to fly our flag next to the Stars & Bars for no reason! Start an investigation before the site turns into a park and gets nationalized. Won't be able to touch it then.

Think about it.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:37 PM
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8. Considering the amateur pilots, it's fairly impressive they hit the towers
at all, without amiming for a particular point.

But these images are useful because the "no-planers" on DU get upset about them.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:55 AM
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16. There's a big difference
between accepting that the planes hit the towers and that the planes caused the towers to collapse. The towers obviously survived the impact of the planes because they remained standing for almost 1-1.5 hours after getting hit.

On the other, to claim that the resulting fires and the damage from the impact of the planes brought the towers down in essentially freefall time is beyond believable. That kind of damage does not turn skyscrapers into volcanoes. A massive energy source is required to set off such a reaction.

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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 06:44 PM
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9. Enter the POD PEOPLE presently....
Oy...they're coming soon...
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:49 AM
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14. The vast majority of 9-11 CTers here are not pod people
nor hologram people. You'd know this if you'd have ever taken the time to read up in the 9-11 forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:12 AM
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15. why do you CARE so much?
Edited on Tue Sep-26-06 03:30 AM by ima_sinnic
do you also hang out in churches letting everyone know what you think of people who worship what are in your opinion imaginary cloud-beings?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 05:58 AM
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18. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:25 PM
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11. Doesn't look like a passenger jet.
But then again Im just a crazy CTer

MIHOP
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:41 AM
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20. It looks exactly like one to me
And, I believe the planes took the towers down, although I also tend to believe stuff was allowed to happen by SOMEONE... and that they got way more than they thought would happen (lose of life, etc.).
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 11:41 PM
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12. In those pictures you can see...
The "devil face" that everyone talked about. Not that it means anything but I do think it's pretty impressive how the smoke randomly formed that image. Eyebrows, eyes, nose, grin, beard, the whole shebang.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 04:13 AM
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17. Actually, it looks more like Mugatu from Zoolander. nt
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 12:57 AM
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13. rec # 6. Great post thanks. Free viewing is hard, I can get it for couple
of seconds.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:14 AM
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19. man that is rough on the eyes
I think I am getting a headache...but cool nonetheless...

sP
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 06:58 AM
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21. Here's a little smaller set -- might be easier




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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:54 PM
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24. My head hurts.
I never could see the embedded pictures in those funny posters either.
:(
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:41 PM
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22. Thanks for the post, and info on the program StereoPhoto Maker.
I was wanting to find a way to do this using photos of the impacts of Comet Shoemaker-Levy fragments with Jupiter, taken from Earth vs an interstellar probe (Galileo, IIRC) or Hubble (though probably not a wide enough sep'n in the latter case; get a 'hypo-stereo' effect). Jupiter spins so fast that one might be able to combine photos taken several minutes apaart -- I think it's more than 0.5 degree/minute. But if the ejecta are moving very fast in those photos, it wouldn't work out.

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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 03:54 PM
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23. There is something wrong with my eyes
I can never see the 3D images, no matter what I do. Maybe it's my astigmatism?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 03:28 PM
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25. Kind a like being cross eyed...
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