How Would You Distinguish "Red State Values" From "Blue State Values"?

[BLUSH]

The people in the Red States -- in the south and west -- embody and embrace "Christian" virtue and "moral values," and the rest of us -- in the nation's north and on the west coast -- provide a haven for Beelzebub and all evil ideas and creatures great and small.

The people in the Blue States championed public education, libraries, universities and hospitals, trade unions, child labor laws, public transportation, care for the mentally ill, laws protecting minorities and the disabled, open government, women's suffrage, the abolition of slavery and, God bless them, the repeal of Prohibition.

http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/gallagher188.html


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Off the top of my head, the obvious ones ...

Red States Values: Intolerance, Uniformity, Myopia

Blue State Values: Tolerance, Diversity, Foresight


The president got re-elected by dividing the country along fault lines of fear, intolerance, ignorance and religious rule. -- Maureen Dowd

[mwb970]

1. Red States are more religious, to their detriment.

In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies. Rates of gonorrhea in adolescents in the US were up to 300 times higher than in less theistic pro-evolution secular democracies. The US also suffered from “uniquely high” adolescent and adult syphilis infection rates, and adolescent abortion rates.

The report is confirmed by US experience. Those states with the highest degree of religiosity (red states) have markedly worse rates of societal dysfunction as measured by rates of homicide, STD, youth pregnancy, divorce and spousal abuse. Those states with the lowest levels of religiosity (blue states) have the lowest measures of societal dysfunction. Northeastern states in the US duplicate the European results in both lower religiosity and lower societal dysfunction.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Oct05/Salisbury1011.htm

[Arugula Latte]

8. A higher rate of religion also correlates with a higher rate of stupidity.

The voting patterns are evidence of that.

[TankLV]

2. "Hypocrisy". That's red state "values" in a nutshell...

or

"Do as I say, not as I do"...

or

just LIE - don't even need to be honest anymore - repeat it often and loud...

[BLUSH]

3. Study discovers Conservatives see things in "Black and White"

Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

- Fear and aggression
- Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity
- Uncertainty avoidance
- Need for cognitive closure


Conservatives don't feel the need to jump through complex, intellectual hoops in order to understand or justify some of their positions, he said. "They are more comfortable seeing and stating things in black and white in ways that would make liberals squirm," Glaser said.

He pointed as an example to a 2001 trip to Italy, where President George W. Bush was asked to explain himself. The Republican president told assembled world leaders, "I know what I believe and I believe what I believe is right." And in 2002, Bush told a British reporter, "Look, my job isn't to nuance."

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268673.shtml

[Lex]

4. Most all the states are a mixture of blue and red

with the red winning out slightly in some and overwhelmingly in others. Same with the blue states.

[BLUSH]

7. exactly

I don't think anyone thinks when we say such-and-such is a red state we mean everyone is a Republican.

Most people understand that in calling a state a "red state" we are saying the number of people who voted for the Republican candidate was greater than the number of people who voted for the Democratic candidate.

[aikoaiko]

10. Thank you. Its less than 60-40 in most states either way.

red state, blue state, that only makes sense when talking about electoral college votes.

we're trying hard to win in GA.

[mwb970]

14. It seems to me that the cities are blue and the countryside is red.

States with more, bigger cities end up "blue" in the Electoral College. States with more countryside end up "red".

[brentspeak]

5. This thread is totally against DU rules

Flamebait, meant to divide red state and blue state DUers.

[BLUSH]

6. No it's not.

It's not about people here on DU, but about VALUES. Conservative versus Progressive.

There are many people in the blue states with "red state values" as there are many people in the red states with "blue state values."

When those with red state values outnumer those with blue state values (i.e., conservatives outnumber progressives), you have a RED STATE.

And what are the traits that distinguish these two sets of values? That's the question.

[MadHound]

9. Funny how your post claims that Blue states promote tolerance

And yet the post itself is quite intolerant. Intolerant, misguided, promoting stereotypes, insulting, and biased, among other things. The irony and hypocrisy are just dripping off this post. And frankly, it's sad, quite sad that a so called liberal and progressive such as yourself is exhibiting such a lack of knowledge, tolerance and regard for their fellow human.

You do realize that in most states, the number of voters who are in the majority are only a few percentage points ahead of the minority opinion? You also realize that the status of a state as "red" or "blue" is a very fluid thing don't you? Take for instance Missouri. Sure, we went for Bush by a few percentage points in the past couple of elections. However the previous two elections we threw our support behind Clinton, by a much larger percentage than we supported Bush. Hmm, what does that make us?:shrug:

Or then there are "red" states like Ohio and Florida(and probably others unknown) who actually went for Bush's opponent, yet due to vote counting shennanigans, they were listed as actually being in Bush's column.

And remember, this bullshit characterization you've concocted is based on a demographic model that polls less than half the population in any given state. Most people in this country don't vote, thus their opinion isn't registered. And studies have shown that the vast majority of non-voters in any given state are actually liberals and progressives. Hence your model is full of shit since your method of collecting data(voting patterns) is hugely flawed.

This is nothing more than more devisive, flamebait bullshit. Why you feel the need to insult your fellow citizens, liberals and progressives in this manner, I don't know. But I would suggest that you examine your own morals, ethics and values before you presume to comment on the morals, ethics and values of others. For from where I sit, you are sorely lacking in those qualities that you ascribe to liberals and progressives.

[yurbud]

12. It is more often urban vs. rural or even appealing to a specific

personality.

I have had a lot of Latino and even some black students who have that angry, zenophobic bent that the GOP appeals to, and they buy into it even though they are themselves the targets of the zenophobia.

[The Revolution]

13. Completely Agree

The post is extremely insulting. Honestly, it makes me wonder why I should even try. I might as well just vote for republicans since that's what people will assume either way. No matter what I do, my fellow "liberals" are going to attack me just because of where I live.

The way your state voted in the last presidental election is the only thing that matters. Or rather, (as you pointed out) the way your votes were counted. And it doesn't matter that the great blue state of California, Minnesota, and New York have republican governors. Or that someone like Tom Harkin is from Iowa.

The irony and hypocrisy in this post is indeed stunning. And what's really sad is that usually liberals are able to see though this kind of media-created bullshit. But for some reason many have bought into this completely.

[yurbud]

11. Shrinking (ANIMATION)

[Moderator]

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