Please Lord, take Osama out by indisputable natural causes.

[Armstead]

Osama's sick. Osama's dead. We know where he's hiding and we're gonna git him. Karl Rove is waiting until October....etc. Lotta rumors going around.

My wish is simple. That Osama die immediately (or has already died) of natural causes, and that it is verifiable that it was natural causes.

1)It will deny Bush the credit, and remove any potential crowing by the GOP and right wing. (Although we know that they'll take credit anyway. "It was our plan to put him under so much stress for so long that he'd get sick and die. It was part of our plan in the War On Terror all along.)

2)It would avoid, or at least reduce, the inevtitable counter-reaction of anger towards the US in the Muslim world. If we capture or kill him, it'll create some really rocky moments.

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Yes let's prey

oh excuse me, pray that Osama pulls a Ken Lay.

[Taxloss]

6. Would you prefer him to live?

Why?

[mnhtnbb]

2. Probe into bin Laden death leak --French Secret Service!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5374160.stm

[treestar]

3. I understand completely

And the Muslims being upset about whatever treatment Osama would get would be directed at the US treatment of the Muslim world since 911, and any disproval they may have of Osama's tactics will get buried in that and taken by the freepers as justification that all the Muslims "want us dead."

[Cleita]

4. I believe he's dead and I also think Bush knows where his

body is. His body is probably being kept in Saudi Arabia probably in an unmarked grave. There is a deal between Bush and his hand holding Saudi prince friends to keep this a secret so that Bush can put out threats from Osama any time he needs to scare the American people. It's a possibility anyway.

Another possibility is that the CIA has his body on ice somewhere in secret and we won't know he is dead until the time is ripe for Bush to trot him out for a photo op. "We killed Osama and here's his body," kind of thing.

When we put Bush on trial we should force him to answer to this and many other unanswered questions.

[wellstone dem]

7. exactly

this was supposed to be the "october surprise."

[tridim]

22. I just don't get why Rove would announce that it's coming

If it was Osama's dead body, wouldn't that be verification that he has been on ice and BushCo already knows about it? How would that help them?

I think Rove still has something else up his sleeve.

[Armstead]

8. That's why my post said Indisputable natural causes...

Since this is fantasizing at this point, I would hope that it be brought out by those on the Muslim side, with verification from legitimate medical sources, to avoid any room for such illusiory credir or fudging by the GOP.

[Cleita]

25. That would be how it should be done.

I hope any Muslims who can effect this will read your post.

[xxqqqzme]

10. the started defrosting

him earlier in the week. Probably the day before saurove announced what until you see this cycles 'October surprise'.

[Taxloss]

5. I would rather he was captured and tried.

It's a bit late for it to be an unalloyed victory for Bush now, as the five years that it took (well, 13 years really) mean that any Republican gloating would ring pretty hollow.

Even the small bounce the capture gave Bush would be worth it to secure Osama as an information source. We could learn a terrific amount from him, and neutralise a potent propaganda figure for extremists without martyring him in combat.

Furthermore, I think the psychological effect of his capture, trial and execution would be very important for the American people. It gives a bit of closure to 9/11; the rationale behind monotonous continuation of the "war on terror" would crumble without this scarlet pimpernel. I think demands for peace would grow.

Well, it's a thought, and as valid as any other scenario.

[Armstead]

9. I can't envision Osama becoming a canary

And unfortunately, there are enough Americans who would be convinced that this would mean they should support the GOP, and thge media would trumpet the "Bush regains trust and support of Amereicans after his great victory."

[Taxloss]

13. Well, like I said, it's just a scenario.

However hard the media spins it for Bush, the fact is that the propaganda value of a dead/captured Osama wanes by the day. People know that every day that has passed is a failure for Bush, and attempting to turn it into a huge success has the potential to really backfire for him, I think. All those months of downplaying Osama's importance, and now his capture is a huge victory? I don't put anything past Bush or the media, but that's quite a spin there. Maybe if Bush caught Osama in the act of lighting the fuse to gunpowder barrels under the White House after following that shifty-looking gardener that Clinton hired ...

As for Osama turning canary, he's quite the ego and bigmouth, as we've learned from his tapes. He'd relish the platform, I'd expect. In terms of operational details we'd probably learn next to nothing, Ozzie probably knows nothing about them, but given the opportunity to boast about how he planned past attacks? We could learn a lot that way. He'd also go to a lot of trouble to embarrass Bush.

But, as I say, just thinking out loud.

[Armstead]

18. I'm just wishing aloud too

But I really do dread the prospect of Bush holding a press conference in October and saying (in the words of Paul Bermner):

"Ladies and gentleme...We got him."

[Scoot420fla]

12. You really think

that with the millions he's been paid off to be our sworn enemy that he's going to reveal all that? At least if he's dead the best the bushies can say is "we avoided another attack until bin laden died", but they still can't say that he was captured/killed by us or our 'allies'. The natural death of bin Laden is Bush's worse nightmare...Rove's as well.

[Taxloss]

14. Why pay him off?

He seems happy to play the bogeyman for free.

[Scoot420fla]

15. ok

think what you will

[hlthe2b]

16. I don't want a vengeance orgy... we already have a torture-seeking

torture craving, torture-defending populace. Enough. If there is any hope of bringing this nightmare to an end, I agree with the OP. We don't need for his followers to make more of a martyr of him--at our hands. Let Osama be determined (without doubt) to be dead of natura causes. Let it end there... This is worth a prayer, I'd say...

[Taxloss]

19. That's fair enough.

I think a death by natural causes would be eminently satisfactory, BTW, but the jurist in me hankers for due process.

[JI7]

11. i wish he would, but i don't think he is dead yet

i think he is such a major figure among some, and in that area that if it was true there would be a reaction from the people in the area.

not some secret reports of who said what .

[HereSince1628]

17. Alive he is a thorn in the side...dead he is a martyr for al-Qaeda

Assasinated he is a martyr with a death to be vindicated. Dead from natural causes he is a martyr and the guy who replaces him will have to demonstrate his determination and power with attacks.

I don't see much good in any direction. This is the problem with falling into a shit hole, it's just shit everywhere you turn.

[opihimoimoi]

20. Osama is alive and well in Tahiti on some remote Island sipping Mai Tais

wid the little umbrellas.

His death is staged....IMHO

[Armstead]

26. Maybe he's in Hawaii

You could make a quick few million $$$$$ if you find him.

[opihimoimoi]

27. LOL, Money is not everything.....If he was here...he would be hiding in

the caves on Kauai....with the Menehunes. :toast:

[Leopolds Ghost]

21. He's very sensitive to stress, he is.

He's not dead, He's resting.

[madrchsod]

23. it took franco years to die...

isn`t sharon still alive? bin boy is still around but he could be very ill because of his medical an life style choices

[kurth]

24. Looks like he got typhoid fever and died on the shitter

kinda like Elvis.