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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:16 AM
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Poll question: "Bush Did Nothing To Prevent 9/11": Will The Dems Run With It?
Bill Clinton ripped Chris Wallace a new one:

"But at least I tried. That's the difference in me and some, including all of the right-wingers who are attacking me now. They ridiculed me for trying. They had eight months to try, they did not try. I tried. So I tried and failed. When I failed, I left a comprehensive anti-terror strategy and the best guy in the country, Dick Clark, who got demoted."

This refutes the very crux of the Rethuglican argument that they are stronger than the Dems on defending our country.

Will the Dems use this as a cudgel in the coming elections?

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:20 AM
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1. Bush FAILED to protect America.
The guy got the Aug. 6, 2001 PDB and told the guy, "OK, you've covered your ass," turned around to cut brush or golf or whatever for his month-long vacation.

When Andy Card told hhim "America is under attack," Incurious George sat there listening to kids read "My Pet Goat."

Gephardt was right: Bush is a "miserable failure."
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 08:28 PM
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17. Bush threatened to bomb the Taliban into the stone age
and the Taliban struck first on 9-11-2001

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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:20 AM
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2. You mean like they did in 2004?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:21 AM
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3. No, no, that's way too inflammatory. n/t
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:29 AM
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5. But it's factual. I bet most Americans don't even know that
after Bush received the 8/6/01 PDB about bin Laden being determined to strike in the U.S., he looked at the CIA briefer who briefed him on the PDB, and said "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

The President of the United States had just received a PDB about the world's most notorious terrorist being determined to strike our homeland, and the only thing he could think of to say to the person who had briefed him, was "All right. You've covered your ass, now."

In other words, Bushie was basically telling the briefer to get the hell out of his face so he could get back to his vacation.
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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:59 AM
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7. That´s not all
Have a look at this :

"1996-2001: Federal authorities have known for years that suspected terrorists with ties to bin Laden were receiving flight training at schools in the US and abroad. One convicted terrorist confessed that his planned role in a terror attack was to crash a plane into CIA headquarters.

(...)

1998: An Oklahoma City FBI agent sends a memo warning that "large numbers of Middle Eastern males" are getting flight training and could be planning terrorist attacks. A separate CIA intelligence report asserts that Arab terrorists are planning to fly a bomb-laden aircraft into the WTC (World Trade Center).

(...)

Sep 1999: A US intelligence report states bin Laden and Al-Qaeda terrorists could crash an aircraft into the Pentagon. The Bush administration claims not to have heard of this report until May 2002, though it was widely shared within the government.

(...)

2000 – 2001: The military conducts exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties. One imagined target is the WTC. Another is the Pentagon.

(...)

June 13, 2001: Egyptian President Mubarak through his intelligence services warns the US that bin Laden's Islamic terrorist network is threatening to kill Bush and other G8 leaders at their July economic summit meeting in Italy. The terrorists plan to use a plane stuffed with explosives.

(...)

July 10, 2001: A Phoenix FBI agent sends a memorandum warning about Middle Eastern men taking flight lessons. He suspects bin Laden's followers and recommends a national program to check visas of suspicious flight-school students. The memo is sent to two FBI counter-terrorism offices, but no action is taken. Vice President Cheney says in May 2002 that he opposes releasing this memo to congressional leaders or to the media and public.

(...)

Summer 2001: Intelligence officials know that al Qaeda both hopes to use planes as weapons and seeks to strike a violent blow within the US, despite government claims following 911 that the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks came “like bolts from the blue.”

Summer 2001: Russian President Putin later says publicly that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US of suicide pilots training for attacks on US targets.

Late summer 2001: Jordanian intelligence agents go to Washington to warn that a major attack is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. Christian Science Monitor calls the story "confidently authenticated" even though Jordan later backs away from it.

(...)

Sep 11, 2001: In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, a US intelligence agency (the National Reconnaissance Office or NRO) was all set for an exercise at 9 AM on September 11th in which an aircraft would crash into one of its buildings near Washington, DC. Four wargames were also in progress at the time of the attacks. "

http://www.wanttoknow.info/911coverup10pg


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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:30 AM
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11. Plus
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 11:31 AM by k-robjoe
If you have a look at this :

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=43926

Just one example :

"NEWSWEEK: In the Months Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Highly Classified Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S."

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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:23 AM
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4. I wish
They could also top it off with a few more facts: Republicans have always been weak against 'terra'. Reagan cut and run when the "islamofascists" blew up 240 Marines in 83. He then sold weapons to "islamofascists" in order to raise money to fund Latin American right wing--fascist terrorists.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 10:38 AM
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6. Yeah, Harry Reid Will Shout It From The Rooftops, Yeah, Right ...
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:24 AM
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8. they had it in '04
they did not use it then.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:27 AM
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9. Clenis said it, nobody believes the Clenis
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:28 AM
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10. If they wanted to win, they would have been saying that since:
September 12, 2001.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 11:58 AM
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12. Dem leadership is idiotic not to use it--along with the fact that Bush has
to be dragged kicking and screaming to do anything about domestic security.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 12:59 PM
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13. No, they only bother to lift their heads off of their drool-soaked
pillows to condemn Hugo Chavez. Then it's back to their stupor.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 01:02 PM
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14. I'm sorry to say the Dems don't have the nachos to play hardball.
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 01:03 PM by AtomicKitten
They could annihilate this administration without breaking a sweat, but won't. They are perpetuating the generation of gentleman politics; that is tantamount to bringing a nerf knife to a gun fight. Feh.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 08:23 PM
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16. The only way I can explain the Dems' complicity with the Bush
program is:

1. Peak Oil is for real. Planners forecast economic and social chaos
in ten years or so. Everyone agrees we need a totalitarian state to
keep order.

2. Everyone agrees we need to seize the remaining oil reserves.

3. The Democrats lack the stones for the job, so they leave it to a
rogue cowboy element of the Republican party that can be plausibly
dismissed as incompetent.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 01:29 PM
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15. "We'll that's President Clinton's opnion. I think he was just upset."
That's be the likely response.

Sorta the Jack Murtha treatment.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 09:22 PM
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18. They should but they won't
After 16 of smearing Clinton with every single lie they could come up with, it appears they have finally pushed him too far. I have never seen President Clinton so angry. In fact, I can't recall ever seeing him angry.

It appears they've launced their campaign on lying about Clinton's terrorism record. I have no doubt that that little weasel fucker in the White House had some involvement in that ABC crockumentary.

I've always admired people who try to take the high road in political campaigns. Unfortunately, that just can't be done when you're dealing with the slimeballs currently running the country. They're already trying to outdo 2004 as the most sleazy election in American history so we have to hit them we're it hurts.

That's unlikely to happen though as our current Democrat leaders simply lack the nerve to do so. They're more eager to attack Hugo Chavez than people who constantly accuse them of being anti-American and on the side of the terrorists.

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:22 AM
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19. the winning issue is in front of our faces
bush did nothing to protect America.

iraq has made things worse.

blast out ads Dems - the repugs would do no less and embellish them to.
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