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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:50 AM
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Giuliani: Peace is achieved through strength, not weakness

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Giuliani discussed how military power is the only true bargaining chip in the War on Terror. "Whenever America is reluctant or unwilling to use power, you got nothing. Ronald Reagan ended communism because they were afraid of him," he said. "He use to get criticized so much by the New York Times and liberal media," especially for labeling the Soviet Union as the "evil empire."

The increased military spending during the 1980s, Giuliani reflected, was necessary in order to defeat the Soviet Union by bankrupting the power. The Soviets "realized that he wasn't going to stop until he spent them into oblivion," he said.
Peace is achieved, "through strength, not weakness That is how we have to deal with terrorism," Giuliani said.

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:59 AM
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1. Consider the sourse...absolutely NO CREDIBILITY
We should believe him...why????? GOP has been proven wrong on virtually every single issue so why believe them now?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:00 AM
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2. indeed. He is essentially saying war = peace
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:03 AM
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3. Peace is achieved through diplomacy, not arrogance.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:05 AM
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4. Can he explain why we're weaker today than we were six years ago?
Since 9-11 the US has gone from a position of power to one of weakness. We're weaker in our alliances, the military is oveextended and demoralized, we're broke and our adversaries no lomger take us seriously.

We're WEAKER under the GOP -- Not stronger, Rudy.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:09 AM
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5. Tell me Rudy - how much peace have you negotiated?
How many foreign treaties have you signed? How many diplomatic missions have you been on?

Wait... you're telling me that the only office of import you've held is mayor of one city and that you haven't an ounce of foreign policy experience? Oh, and you're also telling me that Reagan had NOTHING to do with ending the Soviet Union and that communism still exists? Interesting... :eyes:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:12 AM
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6. yes, Ghandhi certainly proved this
with his massive arsenal of welts & hunger strikes.

giuliani, you are stupid.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:12 AM
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7. Last time I had checked NYC under Giuliani pre 9/11
folks were getting shot for putting their hands in the pockets!

Is that how he finally got his divorce, by negotiating using strength? Cause that would be the only think I can think of that he negotiated anyways!

Peace through "strength my ass! :eyes:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:16 AM
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8. "Peace through strength" Orwell must be spinning in his grave.
Does giuliana not get it? Or worse yet, does he get it and agree?

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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:17 AM
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9. In light of the billions Americans spend on Weapons America . . .
Should be the MOST PEACEFUL nation on the planet - according to that logic.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:17 AM
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10. Ghouliani, wouldn't you LOVE having your finger control the red button?
Too bad, asshole.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:21 AM
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11. Only to a point Rudy
While excessive weakness is an invitation to every wannabe Pol Pot and the like. Excessive and unreasonable strength breeds fear in your neighbors. Unchecked fear and distrust can be far more deadly than not having the biggest baddest military in the solar system.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:00 PM
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12. The Reagan Method?
Well since the US is outspending the 'terrorists' as well...then they should have been defeated by now, no?



Raygun Honouring His Anti-Commie Buddies



Not just the NYTimes, Rudie!
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:26 PM
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13. G is a saber rattling, war mongering * clone. History disproves him.
He wants us to believe that we're asleep. He should be in jail with the rest of the criminals this administration has produced.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:39 PM
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14. Oh, get lost, you slug
Don't you have a presidential campaign to launch, based entirely on thousands of dead people who probably thought you were a damn disgrace when they were alive?
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:42 PM
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15. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Now, sit down and shut up, your ignorance is showing
"...Ronald Reagan ended communism because they were afraid of him..."

Puleeeezeee! :nuke:
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:46 PM
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16. Giuliani is an uncontrolable bully. Don't let him ANYWHERE near
the White House.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:37 PM
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17. did he say that for free or from one of his 100K speeches?
ka-ching ka-ching.... being the Saint of 9-11 is a profitable biz....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:39 PM
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18. So we could have won in Vietnam if the chickenhawks had shown
up?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:51 PM
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19. These guys are creepy
Reminds me of a line from "The Substitute 4: Failure Is Not an Option" The one with the neo nazis.
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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:51 PM
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20. well then, so much for "Blessed are the meek...
for they shall inherit the earth." Oh yeah, that's so NEW Testament...
War is peace.
Peace through torture.
Spend them into oblivion?

I'm changing my signature line.
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