"Terror suspects deal leaves ambiguities " BBC News Immunity granted

[Solly Mack]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5370482.stm

"The upshot is a complicated and at times ambiguous series of understandings that will have to be tested in practice.

The proposals will outlaw what they call "grave breaches" of Common Article 3 including, as the president's national security adviser Stephen Hadley put it, "torture, cruel or inhuman treatment".

Banned practices will be laid out in law but the president will be left to decide whether others do not amount to "grave breaches" and that is an area of dispute already.

Waterboarding confusion

Other measures include allowing prisoners in front of military commissions some chance of being told, in some form, of certain evidence used against them, and giving CIA and other personnel immunity from prosecution for previous violations."

[sutz12]

1. Substitute "creates" for "leaves" and I think you have it....

:evilgrin:

[Solly Mack]

3. Creating confusion where none exist is a gift of theirs

[annabanana]

2. Sadly, we have to go over seas to get the details

of what particular kind of screwing we're getting now.

(nominated)

"the president will be left to decide". . . that's a stopper, right there. NO ONE will be able to challenge whatever his fevered little brain (or those of his handlers) can come up with.

[Solly Mack]

4. I've been looking for articles that explain more fully

and came across the BBC one.

If anyone finds another that gets into more details, please post!

But yeah, this one and one from MTV (posted on another thread) get into the most detail so far.

[annabanana]

5. evening kick. . . . . . . . . .n/t

[Solly Mack]

6. Have you seen this yet? Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2200575&mesg_id=2200575

Beyond disgusting