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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:04 AM
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"Democratic leaders said they will go along with the compromise" news
segment on abc just announced this. talking of compromise reached by rebel Repugs and WH.

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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:05 AM
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1. I refuse to EVER vote for anyone who is for torture.
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:05 AM
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2. What a surprise......NOT!
:eyes:
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:05 AM
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3. This is sick, sick, sick. I am just sick to my stomach.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:07 AM
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4. Aaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh!
Is there anyone anywhere with any conscience?

What is Clark's position? He's been pretty quiet lately. :mad:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:09 AM
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6. i have not heard
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:20 AM
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18. If the ABC report is true, the answer is no.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:29 AM
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24. ABC? True? In the same sentence?
:rofl:

What does that google bomb say at the bottom of your post?

:eyes:

NGU.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:09 AM
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5. Do we have any news on this that hasn't been filtered through...
...a Corporate network spokesmodel? I'd like to hear our reps in their own words.

NGU.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:10 AM
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7. i have not heard what Russ Fiengold thinks either, have you?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:25 AM
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21. Nope. I'm keeping my ears open.
NGU.


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:11 AM
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8. k
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:11 AM
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9. Well surprise, surprise.
I guess I have to reassess my affiliation after the upcoming elections. I have no choice but to elect as many dems I can right now but I'll probably change to independent and just work for progressives and people that defend the constitution afterwards. I took a pledege in the 70's to protect and defend the constitution and I will not waiver.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:13 AM
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11. I guess we are now officially a banana republic run by a tin-hat dictator.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:26 AM
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22. Yes, because we all know that ABC is trustworthy and honest...
...and would never make something up and promote it as the truth.

:eyes:

NGU.


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:12 AM
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10. But we don't know what the compromise is yet?
Are they willing to go along in the blind?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:18 AM
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17. Political expediency? Maybe. We'll have to wait to hear.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:28 AM
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23. vague talk in articles about the provision to grant immunity retroactively

to the 'professionals' also.





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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:13 AM
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12. I'd like to see a link about the story before we go assuming stuff
Hell I could start a post saying "ABC just announced Democrats willing to pardon anyone associated with Tom Delay" thread and people will jump in and assume 100% that it's true and democrats must be vilified.

Let's find a link, who said it and how others in the party support it. For all we know it's Joe Lieberman and the press still assumes he speaks for the democratic party
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:17 AM
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16. I'll wait for final judgement. I'm nervous that our future
is entirely up to us however with no large organizational help.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:24 AM
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20. I'm expecting several democrats to support the repukes
hell we could probably name the names here.

But I'm not ready to vilify the party until I have the facts
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:15 AM
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13. Well, that is on ABC. Maybe a reliable source would be better. eom
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:16 AM
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14. So let's see, what's the Dem leadership's message to America this week?
1) Bush is not a devil...or at least should not be called one by other countries' leaders. We're waiting for clarification on that.

Check.

2) Torture is okay, as long as it's only this much. We're still waiting for clarification on how much this much is.

Check.

....

Shameful.
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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:17 AM
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15. Why?????
Why are they giving up the moral high ground? Do they think they will win if they look like Pukes? This is one to fight and if we win the mid-terms, this leadership bunch MUST GO!
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Imperialism Inc. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:21 AM
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19. Consider the source.
Plus the story supposedly came from ABC.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:36 AM
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25. Several folks on this thread
have stated we don't know if this is true - we need to wait for link - can't trust the source. But honestly folks given the Democrats actions over the past almost six years - would the fact that the Dems would cave on this be a surprise to you. So if I was a betting person I bet the Dem leadership will fall in line behind this "compromise"

We are lost folks - we have NO REAL OPPOSITION to these criminals - and I for one am sick and tired of folks here saying the Dems can't do anything - they are not in power - blah blah blah - Many of the Dem leadership SUCK SUCK SUCK and have been almost as harmful to this country as the Devil in chief because of their enabling -

Every single time during this administration when there has been a glimmer of hope - it has been ripped out from under us - We're lost folks - we're not going to win in November - these criminals will get away with their crimes - and our country as we knew it is history.....

With that said I still hope that I am wrong and we will win in November and we will get our country back - but I'm beyond bummed and discouraged
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:43 AM
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26. We CAN'T give up!
Like one DUer said recently, it's like a funeral around here. Everybody wants to throw in the towel.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:59 AM
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28. You're right
but like I said I'm very bummed and discouraged - and it just seems to get worse everyday....and I know we all feel so helpless...but there is still a small spark of hope in me - so I will make calls to Senators today - at least that way I know I tried....
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 09:15 AM
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29. It has gotten slowly... incrementally... better... I know that's...
...not good enough for the "instant gratification consumers" around here, but it's the best we got, and I for one am not going to throw it away because I'm impatient. (And believe me, I'm as impatient as anyone!) I personally am trying to help build some momentum for it. As are a lot of people out there: PDA, MoveOn, True Majority, DFA, and all of their individual grassroots members.

So snap out of it! B-) We need your help!

Never Give Up.


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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:14 AM
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30. Snap out of it
Believe me I'm trying.....
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 08:50 AM
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27. politicians who stand for nothing will fall for anything! ABC boycott is
apparently dead as well, I see.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:17 AM
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No way they will vote on it next week.
Mark my words, bet me even.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:17 AM
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31. Harry Reid is a complete failure....
What a fucking wimpy bastard he is...

Just sit on your fucking ass all damn week Harry. Let McCain pretend to be doing what YOU should have been doing.

Now Reid looks like the ass he is.

I'm tell you, sometimes it's hard to continue supporting these fucking frauds...
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