Ahmadinejad Meets With Jews Who Agree With His Views On Israel

[ECH1969]

WCBS-TV gained exclusive access to the event, held at the Intercontinental Hotel in Midtown. There, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad railed against Zionists, meaning the Israelis.

"They have no respect for the lives and dignity of the Jews," Ahmadinejad said through a translator. "If they could they would destroy 6 billion people in the world."

And then he made a chilling prediction about the future of Israel. "But their time is ending. God willing," he said.

Ahmadinejad once again questioned the existence of the Holocaust. And the rabbis, some of whom lost relatives in the war, suggested it was all a Zionist conspiracy. The rabbis, who believe Israel's founding violated God's will, couldn't have been happier. One even went so far as to praise the controversial leader.

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_264190553.html

[knowbody0]

1. Holy Crap!

[ECH1969]

3. That was my response

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Maybe you can be more specific.

What, precisely, do you think is the import of this story?

[rockymountaindem]

2. This doesn't surprise me in the least

There has always been a small group of Jews who are virulently opposed to the existance of Israel on theological grounds. Read Chaim Potok's "The Chosen" to learn a little about them if anybody's interested. But let me just say, they are very committed to their belief that Israel is an offence against God, and they will tell it to anyone who will listen.

I have my own opinions about them, and about any Jew who says that the Holocaust was a "Zionist conspiracy", or God's just judgment on an unholy branch of the Jewish people, but I'll try to keep my mind and heart free of those kind of emotions on the eve of Rosh Hashana.

[davidinalameda]

4. since I'm not Jewish, let me express some of my own emotions

they're just as guilty as the Nazis during WW2 and the terrorists killing Israelis today

I see the same thing in the gay community-some people have internalized the bigotry and hatred of others to such an extent that they become bigots themselves

[rockymountaindem]

5. I don't understand what you're saying

Who's guilty like the Nazis?

[davidinalameda]

6. the Jews who deny the Holocause or blame it on the Jews themselves

clear enough?

[rockymountaindem]

9. Yeah

I didn't know if you meant them or people like Ahmadinejad. But yeah, I agree with you.

[razors edge]

7. I think I remember

it as having something to do with Jews not holding israel by force. Not Jewish so I may be wrong.

[rockymountaindem]

10. Well, their argument

is that Israel should only be restored in Messianic times by the Messiah, and that any attempt by ordinary people to establish it in ordinary times is heresy and an offence against God and the prophets.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

8. This has GOT to violate some kind of...

...public health or safety regulation on the number of religious maniacs in one room.

[ShaneGR]

11. Another psycho, no better than Bush... nt

[Warren DeMontague]

12. What kind of "rabbi" says the Holocaust was a "zionist conspiracy"?

I call bullshit.

[ECH1969]

13. My sister met a Jew that opposes Israel's existance

He based his views on theological grounds according to my sister. He believed the Zionists are violating God's will and he even said he wouldn't shead one tear if one day the state of Israel simply ceased to exist.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Okay. So I ask again. What kind of "rabbi" says the Holocaust

was a "Zionist Conspiracy"?

[Behind the Aegis]

16. A fundamentalist religious zealot.

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Ah, my favorite. nt

[ECH1969]

27. bingo

[sabra]

28. there's a group who think Jews shouldn't be in Israel until the Messiah

returns...

[Behind the Aegis]

14. This will be used as the fodder it is.

I am sure many of the anti-Israeli groups are salivating after reading this.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. It proves nothing except that with 6 billion people in the world

you can even track down one or two Holocaust-denying idiots who happen to be wearing Yarmulkes.

[Behind the Aegis]

19. I didn't say it "proved" anything. I said how I felt it would be used.n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

22. I think most people know that Ahmadinejad is an ass.

I think most people tune the fuck out when they hear someone calling the Holocaust a "zionist conspiracy". I know I do.

[Behind the Aegis]

23. Don't be so certain.

This link is from earlier today. I didn't know what it (the earlier thread) was in reference to, but I am guessing it was this particular conference.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Oh, there's a few here who want to make him into Ghandi.

Yawn. He's a fundamentalist whackjob using fear to manipulate his populace. Reminds me of someone else.

[rockymountaindem]

25. What a messed-up thread

Stuff like that makes me ashamed to be at DU, but I stay because I might as well argue with nutcases like that here as anywhere else.

[geek tragedy]

26. I am sure that some PInheads will slobber all over this. eom

[Nutmegger]

21. It sounds on of Bush's town-hall shindigs!!! [nt]

[ECH1969]

29. lol