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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:36 PM
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Pentagon: Able Danger did not identify any 9/11 terrorists before attack
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:39 PM
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1. Interesting - tell that to Kristen Breitweiser - Jersey Girl.
She writes a lot about this in her new book.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:40 PM
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2. Sure ... how convenient ... how neat ... how f'ing unbelievably amateurish
PROPAGANDA! :puke:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:49 PM
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3. the declassified report is also missing many pages...
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:01 PM
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4. 'Able Danger' Stopped From Informing FBI (August 17, 2005)
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 04:04 PM by seafan
Liars. Every single one of them.


'Able Danger' Stopped From Informing FBI

By KIMBERLY HEFLING,
Associated Press Writer

Wednesday, August 17, 2005


An Army intelligence officer said Wednesday he told staff members from the Sept. 11 commission that a secret military unit had identified two of the three cells involved in the 2001 terrorist strikes more than a year before the attacks.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, who said he was associated with the "Able Danger" unit, said that during a 2003 meeting in Afghanistan, he mentioned that the unit had identified Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta along with three other hijackers as terrorist suspects.
Three months later, in January 2004, Shaffer said he was back in the United States and offered to follow up with the commission, but his offer was declined.

"I just walked away shocked that they would kind of change their mind, but I figured someone with equal or better knowledge ... probably came and talked to them, so they must've taken care of it," Shaffer said.
Shaffer said he was told the commission obtained only two briefcase-size loads of documents from at least 15-plus boxes of information on Able Danger.

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A statement last Friday by former commission chairman Thomas Kean and vice chairman Lee Hamilton said the commission did not obtain enough information on the operation to consider it historically significant.
Shaffer said Able Danger identified Atta and three other Sept. 11 hijackers in 2000, but that military lawyers stopped the unit from sharing the information with the FBI out of concerns about the legality of gathering and sharing information on people in the U.S.
"The lawyers' view was to leave them alone, they had the same basic rights as a U.S. citizen, a U.S. person and therefore the data was kind of left alone," Shaffer said.
Shaffer said he and a Navy officer disagreed with that and tried to set up meetings with the FBI, but each time the idea was rejected by lawyers from the Special Operations command.
"There was a feeling ... if we give this information to the FBI and something goes wrong, we're going to get blamed for whatever goes wrong," Shaffer said.

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Shaffer said Able Danger identified the terrorists using data mining techniques. His relationship to Able Danger was first reported Tuesday night by The New York Times and Fox News Channel.
Shaffer's lawyer, Mark Zaid, said Wednesday that Shaffer does not have documentation related to Able Danger because his security clearance was suspended in March 2004 because of "petty and frivolous" reasons. They include a dispute over mileage reimbursement and a charges for personal calls on a work cell phone, Zaid said.
Shaffer, an Army reservist, has been on paid administrative leave for the past 16 months, Zaid said. He was an active Army major during his involvement with Able Danger, Zaid said.

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Kean: *We don't WANT to know.*

Wonder who sanitized the records given to Kean?

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:17 PM
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5. Conclusion points E thru J are quite interesting as well.
As well as recommendation VII.

Could you post these as well? Can't get the text tool to function..

Thanks for posting this information.
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