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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:46 PM
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NEW RFK JR. ARTICLE TO EXPLORE IF 2006 ELECTION CAN BE HACKED!
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 01:59 PM by kpete
New RFK Jr. article will explore if 2006 election can be hacked

RAW STORY
Published: Thursday September 21, 2006

In the upcoming issue of Rolling Stone, environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr., along with award-winning writer Dick Russell, deepens his investigation into America's electoral process, according to a press release received by RAW STORY.

In the article, Kennedy interviews former Diebold consultant, Chris Hood, who "reveals to what extent our right to vote is at risk."

Excerpts from article which will be online tomorrow at Rollingstone.com:
http://rollingstone.com/

Chris Hood remembers the day in August 2002 that he began to question what was really going on in Georgia. An African-American whose parents fought for voting rights in the South during the 1960s, Hood was proud to be working as a consultant for Diebold Election Systems, helping the company promote its new electronic voting machines. During the presidential election two years earlier, more than 94,000 paper ballots had gone uncounted in Georgia – almost double the national average – and Secretary of State Cathy Cox was under pressure to make sure every vote was recorded properly.

....

In late July, to speed deployment of the new machines, Cox quietly signed an agreement with Diebold that effectively privatized Georgia’s entire electoral system. The company was authorized to put together ballots, program machines and train poll workers across the state – all without any official supervision. “We ran the election,” says Hood. “We had 356 people that Diebold brought into the state. Diebold opened and closed the polls and tabulated the votes. Diebold convinced Cox that it would be best if the company ran everything due to the time constraints, and in the interest of a trouble-free election, she let us do it.”

Then, one muggy day in mid-August, Hood was surprised to see the president of Diebold’s election unit, Bob Urosevich, arrive in Georgia from his headquarters in Texas. With the primaries looming, Urosevich was personally distributing a “patch,” a little piece of software designed to correct glitches in the computer program. “We were told that it was intended to fix the clock in the system, which it didn’t do,” Hood says. “The curious thing is the very swift, covert way this was done.”
..................

According to Hood, Diebold employees altered software in some 5,000 machines in DeKalb and Fulton counties – the state’s largest Democratic strongholds. To avoid detection, Hood and others on his team entered warehouses early in the morning. “We went in at 7:30 a.m. and were out by 11,” Hood says. “There was a universal key to unlock the machines, and it’s easy to get access. The machines in the warehouses were unlocked. We had control of everything. The state gave us the keys to the castle, so to speak, and they stayed out of our way.” Hood personally patched fifty-six machines and witnessed the patch being applied to more than 1,200 others.



Rolling Stone's prior article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "Was the 2004 Election Stolen?" can be read at this link.
http://rollingstone.com/
more AT:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/New_RFK_Jr._article_Will_election_0921.html



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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:46 PM
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1. Can't wait til Monday when my RS will be in the mailbox
I love that magazine!
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:34 PM
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35. No waiting til Monday for Rolling Stone if you want to use THIS LINK HERE:
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:50 PM
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2. OOh! You mean Diebold could have rigged the 02 GA election???
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:56 PM
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8. Sure helps explain a lot of the voting irregularities in that election...
... there really is no adequate explanation for what occurred in GA during that election.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:15 PM
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14. A popular Dem governor and a popular Dem senator BOTH LOSE THEIR SEATS?
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:16 PM by blm
And Terry McAuliffe didn't think there was anything wrong with that, did he?

Let me guess - he blamed the governor, the senator, and 9-11, and ignored the signs of machine fraud?
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:32 PM
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25. But of Course
This really, really pisses me off about these Beltway Dems, their equivocation in the face of obvious, massive electroal fraud. How dare they? They have no right to do so under the Constitution.

Remember that little piece of paper guys?

Anyboday who buys the official spin that there couldn't possibly be fraud having occurred in the last eight years is a traitor, if you ask me.

That's my two cents.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:11 AM
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45. Why don't we PROVE IT and rig the election in November? Send all the
votes to Guy Fawkes.

It's the only way to truly prove to these freaks that the election is stained and tainted with fraud and crime.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 PM
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3. Yee-haw! 5th rec.
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 PM by Kurovski
Now I'm off to actually READ it!:-)

Edit: Raw Story has excerpts, but I can't find anything on the article at the Rolling Stone link. :shrug: Is it hidden in full view somewheres?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:15 PM
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18. The Magazine I don't think goes on the stand until this weekend
I know Monday is the day it's delivered in the mail
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 PM
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4. OMG
*sigh*

Hood was surprised to see the president of Diebold’s election unit, Bob Urosevich, arrive in Georgia from his headquarters in Texas. With the primaries looming, Urosevich was personally distributing a “patch,” a little piece of software designed to correct glitches in the computer program. “We were told that it was intended to fix the clock in the system, which it didn’t do,” Hood says. “The curious thing is the very swift, covert way this was done.”

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:53 PM
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5. Lookie here...Urosevich was personally distributing a “patch,”
Went right up to the top, didn't it.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:57 PM
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9. Yes, a patch that did not do what it was supposed to.
huh?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:17 PM
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19. Well, actually it did EXACTLY what it was supposed to do.
I think you get my point.................
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:22 PM
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22. Ah yes,
I do.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:54 PM
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6. Pay Attention! Insiders will bring Diebold and others down.....
....all we need are a few Diebold workers like Mr. Hood, who still have a conscience and believe in their country, to come forward and tell where the bodies are buried. Same for ESS and the other electronic voting machine companies.

This will go down as a time when democracy was subverted, elections stolen, and amoral politicians made sure it happened.

Where are the others? If you want to live under a democracy you need to come forward while there is still time.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:55 PM
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7. In a democracy, there can be no higher crime.
Theft of the last three elections has resulted in the loss of over 100,000 lives.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:01 PM
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11. Absolutely.
This is treason.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:18 PM
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20. You got that right. Sedition, too, maybe??? And in the case of
the 2004 presidential election, it's TREASON IN WARTIME.

Hang 'em high.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:09 PM
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12. In what was a democracy, I submit it ceased being one in 2000.
As soon as the voters will was subverted, we lost the right to refer to our Government as a "Democracy". 2002 definitely ended it as this this testimony shows. We have been gamed by a bunch of determined crooks, whether they think they are doing this for the good of the Country (doubtful) or self enrichment (certainly, at the highest levels). These revelations add to my general sense of depression over the loss of our freedoms and my increasing certainty that we will never regain what we have had taken from us.

Homeland Security is all about suppressing the Citizenry, keeping the oligarchy safe from us, not from some nebulous foreign menace. I believe that will become increasingly apparent in the days ahead as the new crowd suppression technology is "tested" on domestic crowds fulfilling the Secretary of the Air Force's wet dream that all the Congress people deny any knowledge of.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 PM
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10. WOW!!! I LOVE RFK!!!
I've been waiting for someone like Chris Hood to speak out! Someone give that man a medal of honor for speaking out! I wonder if he is one of the whistleblowers involved in RFK's stolen election lawsuit. Apparently there are two Diebold whistleblowers. This is perfect timing right on the heels of the Princeton study!

Definitely K&R!!!!!! :woohoo:

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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:14 PM
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13. Excellent
Thank you for cheering my day. This is great news - the empire is really starting to crumble, just not soon enough. Go get 'em, RFKJr.! I'm off to subscribe to The Rolling Stone (gonna buy 5 copies for my brother).
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:20 PM
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15. K&R! Way to go Bobby Jr.!
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:38 PM by Independent_Liberal
:patriot:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:01 PM
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16. Kick(nt)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:02 PM
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17. K & R I cannot wait! nt
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:21 PM
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21. OK this is awful.
But we keep getting the word about what was DONE. What do we DO??? It's not happening fast enough. This is the only way the Dems won't take over congress in November.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:26 PM
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23. Okay, so I believe this is happening, you believe this is happening,
Lou Dobbs believes this is happening . . . now what? I don't see our elected representatives making moves to rectify the situation. There should be outrage on the floor of the Senate and an emergency bill mandating paper ballots, effective immediately.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:35 PM
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26. The Democrats
Are drunk with power and asleep at the wheel of the vehicle that they are driving while intoxicated.

Time to pull them over, throw 'em in the back seat, and take them to the drunk tank for, oh, about ten years or so. Then see if they can win an election when real Democrats have been in office during that period.

It's time for (all of them) to go.

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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:36 PM
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27. Oh...
And not to short-shrift the Republicans. They are either idiots or fascists.

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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:45 PM
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37. It's long past time to start cleaning house, but there are good Dems
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 06:46 PM by FighttheFuture
around. Promote the ones who actually practice Democracy and get rid of the rest, like Joe "Suck Face Whiner" Lieberman.
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Thoreau-Ly Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:22 AM
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49. Right You Are.
Feingold is the utter opposite of Revoltin' Joe.

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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:27 PM
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24. Excellent.
Look fwd to the article. k&r
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:51 PM
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28. Looks like BRADBLOG has some additional excerpts
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:06 PM
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29. FULL ARTICLE NOW AVAIL AT:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:33 PM
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34. and also available at this link
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:04 PM
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30. And here is a queston of a very superficial nature........
what is the reason that RFK speaks with such a breathy quality? Did he have some kind of medical problem?
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:56 PM
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32. About RFK Jr's voice...
"what is the reason that RFK speaks with such a breathy quality? Did he have some kind of medical problem?"

It's explained in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy,_Jr.">this Wikipedia article about him:
Kennedy currently co-hosts Ring of Fire on Air America Radio with Mike Papantonio, despite suffering from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasmodic_dysphonia">spasmodic dysphonia, a disorder that makes speech difficult and causes the voice to sound quavery and strangled.

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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:14 PM
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33. Thanks!
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:26 PM
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38. After about 15 minutes, you don't even think of it.
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 07:30 PM by NastyDiaper
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:36 PM
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31. WOO HOO! RFK Jr. for President!
Great idea via DUer blm: Buy a copy and after you read it leave it somewhere so others will read it! :bounce:
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FighttheFuture Donating Member (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:42 PM
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36. Short answer, yes! It can and will be hacked for 2006!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:16 PM
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39. MSM Owes Citizens of Georgia an Apology for saying they were Dumb
enough to be swayed by the Max Cleland/Osama ads. In the same election the incumbent Dem Gov of Georgia had a double digit lead over his GOP opponent and the Governor did not have his picture taken with Osama! I think maybe the illegal patch "robgeorgia.zip" that was installed by Diebold employees somehow managed to turn that double digit lead around. And I think it did the same to the decorated war veteran Cleland, too. For the last 4 years, people in this country have assumed that people in Georgia are morons who will fall for stupid ads like the Cleland/Osama one. All they fell for was the promise of E-Voting.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:30 PM
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40. Again I say HAND COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS COUNTED AT THE PRECINCT
LEVEL WITH FULL PUBLIC WITNESS!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 09:31 PM
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41. One of my favorite quotes from article below ... Yet the Naysayers
maintain the'04 Presidential election was not heisted.. PLUULEEZZE, they need to get a clue...


Electronic voting machines also caused widespread problems in Florida, where Bush bested Kerry by 381,000 votes. When statistical experts from the University of California examined the state's official tally, they discovered a disturbing pattern: "The data show with 99.0 percent certainty that a county's use of electronic voting is associated with a disproportionate increase in votes for President Bush. Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 and 2004." The three counties with the most discrepancies - Broward, Palm Beach and Miami-Dade - were also the most heavily Democratic. Electronic voting machines, the report concluded, may have improperly awarded as many as 260,000 votes to Bush. "No matter how many factors and variables we took into consideration, the significant correlation in the votes for President Bush and electronic voting cannot be explained," said Michael Hout, a member of the National Academy of Sciences.

Charles Stewart III, an MIT professor who specializes in voter behavior and methodology, was initially skeptical of the study - but was unable to find any flaw in the results. "You can't break it - I've tried," he told The Washington Post. "There's something funky in the results from the electronic-machine Democratic counties."

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doctor_garth Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:25 PM
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42. if?????
it has already been hacked, Mr. Kennedy, sorry to be the one to tell you. These things are planned for months, years, come election night, the criminals will be home watching the 'results' on CNN.

The only relevant question is, what will Democrats do to reverse it, will they show some SPINE this time?

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:05 AM
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44. I think he knows that, but the fact is that it's difficult to prove when
a hacker has scrubbed their tracks and the machines and programs are protected from inspection due to the proprietary nature of corporate ownership.

It's something of a journalistic device. The information is layed out and we get to decide.

Welcome to DU, doc!:hi:
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:20 PM
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43. A little background info on family Urosevich
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 11:21 PM by jen4clark
From Who's Counting -- The Companies Chapter, ES&S Section:

Todd Urosevich, current Vice President of aftermarket sales at ES&S, along with his brother Bob, was originally staked into the election business (Data Mark) by wealthy Republican supporters, the Ahmanson family. Howard Ahmanson, who had major holdings in ES&S since its earlier incarnation, then called “AIS”, is a Christian Reconstructionist who has stated in the Orange County Register his goal of instilling Biblical Law throughout America in place of current Constitutional Law. His openly advocated and radical plan for the theocratic takeover of America includes --death penalty for homosexuals, stoning of sinners, banning women from public office, and citizenship excluded for all non-Christians in America. Again, more than half of the Urosevich’s startup capital was funneled from the Ahmansons. (ESS- Ahmanson link)



McCarthy Company bought the Ahmanson’s shares out in 1987.



Let’s back up a step and trace the convoluted outline of the company’s history. A Texas election company-- “Cronus Industries”-- morphed into “Business Records Corp” or BRC. A former BRC owner was Carolyn Hunt, of the Hunt oil family, which provided start up money for the Council for National Policy / CNP. Some CNP members include Oliver North, former Klu Klux Klan member Richard Shoff, Major General John Singlaub, and other Iran-Contra notables, along with Reverend Jerry Falwell, Jesse Helms, Trent Lott, Ralph Reed, Jeffrey and Joseph Coors, Tim LaHaye, Paul Weyrich and Grover Norquist. BRC and three other companies were later purchased by AIS (American Information Systems) in 1997 to form--- ES&S.



Now Todd Urosevich, bankrolled with Ahmanson money, had started in the election equipment business in the 1980’s at Data Mark with his brother, programmer Bob Urosevich. (For added irony, the Urosevich brothers happen to be second generation Ukrainians...) For some time, Bob ran Diebold Election Systems (see below), the company often quoted along with Sequoia, as the number two in the field. In fact, Bob is one of the characters credited with oversight of Diebold’s original software development. Stay with me, because this is where the plot begins to thicken! When Bob Urosevich departed from ES&S and headed over to Diebold, he was replaced by, none other than...Chuck Hagel.


~Read on at Who's Counting

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redaestcyr Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 04:15 AM
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46. THE LAST STOLEN ELECTION FOR BUSH
I am so thankful to Mr. Kennedy for this very important deed. Bush and his merry gang of thugs are not going to allow Americans to have a fair election because he knows we will never vote for him as we did not all the other times.

That is why he keeps control of this lousy media so as they will tell us we did vote republican and you will never see any evidence other then what they say, just like all the other times.

Stealing elections is getting good to these clowns because that is the only way they will ever win an election

We just have to decide what the hell we will do about this if he again pulls this crap in Nov.


We are going to have to come to terms with the outcome of another stolen election because surely we cannot tolerate these thugs in office beyond that time

We have ever thing to lose if we allow these thugs to continue in office taking control of our money and our country and leaving our children with nothing as this crook will steal everything he can get his nasty ass hands on and then some.

We need to make Nov 7,2006 the end of the road for these thugs as we prepare our road trip to DC to clean house.

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dave420 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 05:49 AM
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47. It won't change a thing
Until the masses actually give a flying fuck that they haven't been in control for over half a decade, it doesn't matter who screams what in whichever magazine they happen to scream it in. Surely we'll all feel upset, but nothing will actually happen.

Maybe the people deserve the government they have? The democrats sure as hell aren't doing anything to fix the situation, and are practically identical to the right-wing asshats on the other side.

A new revolution is the only way out, but no-one gives a shit. yay america.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:45 AM
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54. "Maybe the people deserve the government they have? "
um...no dave. i don't think so. i don't deserve *this* government and this fu*khead for a president, my kid doesn't deserve it. do you? no--of course you don't. no one does.

and hopefully--a battle cry will be resound from the masses. ("i'm as mad as hell and i'm not going to take this anymore!")

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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 09:34 AM
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48. This info just needs to penetrate the average American's mental forcefield
somehow.


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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:23 AM
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50. The full article is up online now
Haven't even had a chance to read it, but here it is

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/11717105/robert_f_kennedy_jr__wil
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:42 PM
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51. It pushes "paper trail" solutions that won't work, but good description
of some of the problems and getting word out about them. The Brennan REport, cited by Kennedy, details several major ways to hack the paper trail, so I'm not sure why that issue is ignored and paper trails presented as the clear solution
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 06:06 PM
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52. Kicked (but unable to recommend - thread too old)
Great article!!!

Only circumstantial evidence leading to the conclusion that election fraud took place, but boy that's a LOT of very damaging circumstantial evidence.

I'm absolutely convinced that election fraud took place, and I'm certain that it will happen again this November. We need thousands of people watching, taking pictures, documenting what's happening, maybe there's hope that a smoking gun will appear and people like Urosevich will see prison time.

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woodsgirl Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:09 PM
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53. watched
some beltway pundits today on TV. Putting Chavez down...he
doesn't allow anything negative about him in Venuzuela's
MSM..Meanwhile back at the ranch...We have had 3 stolen
elections. Lou Dobbs, Keith Olberman and RFK Jr. have
addressed the subject. What does that make US. We have made
attempts to overthrow Chavez....tried to kill him.Pat
Robertson has called for his assasination... Kidnapped the
president of Haiti...I think Chavez's speech was right on
target. Chomsky's sky rocketing book sales proves WE are not
in agreement with the pundits.Don't usually watch the Sunday
news shows. Won't make that mistake again.  
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