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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:32 PM
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NBC: Bush and McCain reach deal on enemy combatant tribunals
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:33 PM
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1. CNN has reported it too
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:33 PM
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2. good now the democrats can step up and can this shit.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:34 PM
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3. How does one compromise on the Geneva Conventions?
??
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:35 PM
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4. it's something like being a little bit pregnant. n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 01:39 PM by gkhouston
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:37 PM
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6. McCain has proven that he can't be trusted.
He does it over and over again. Anyone who is willing to back a SOB that tried to destroy him personally and politically is nothing but a sellout. He's not a hero. He's a traitor.

I guess I'm a little angry. Thanks for giving me a place to rant...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:40 PM
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9. Over and over again n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:39 PM
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7. very easily
if you are a compliant repuke who has lost all respect for the rule of law and the constitution and humanity and the american people and america's reputation all for the ability to kiss bush ass.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:23 PM
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20. A senator who has been tortured is willing to bend laws on torture
in order to get the chief torturer off the hook.

Disgusting
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:26 PM
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24. way beyond disgusting
I am hummiliated to be an american. Where can I give up citizenship? :(
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:36 PM
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5. How much did McCain cave (not that I'm pre-judging or anything)?
I sense a great disturbance in the Force...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:40 PM
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8. I knew they would get McCain to switch his decision
KKKarl probably threatened him with torture if he did not cave. He already knew what it was like and said better them than me and gave poor little pissy pants his way.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:45 PM
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10. Then Bush puts a signing statement on it and PS - I cannot be convicted.
Dems, don't let this pass.
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The Cleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:47 PM
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11. Sur-prise, sur-prise, su-PRISE.
Well it looks like a little arm-wrangling and maybe a little good 'ol fashioned blackmail went on between yesterday and today.

First the House Judiciary Committee votes to approve retroactive immunity for Bush war crimes that they KNOW were committed by the U.S., and now this.

Without knowing all the details, I have an inkling McCain caved substantially, having been whipped back in line by Bush/Cheney regarding the continuation of torture.

THIS CANNOT STAND. Why isn't the international community OUTRAGED?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:55 PM
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12. Big Deal
Unless everyone else on the committee rolls over like McCain the bill's still dead.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 PM
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13. No habeas corpus
So it's all a sham. McCain is a total weasel. And he's going to be your next president, ladies and gentlemen. He'd turn his grandma (and damn McCain's grandma would be old!) over to Gitmo for that.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:20 PM
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14. Hey McCain...last time you compromised you got a big
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 02:20 PM by fooj
SIGNING STATEMENT #555 shoved up THIS COUNTRY'S ASS! Damn you.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:30 PM
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15. ohn McCain Hypocrite
John McCain Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:32 PM
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16. gee looks like McCain saw some internal GOP polls about him
and has decided to but the base above principles.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:34 PM
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17. Now all that's missing is the
kiss poster for that traitor.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:34 PM
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18. McCain, a former POW, agreeing to compromise on torture.
How much more ironic can you get?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:35 PM
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19. come on now, he's thinking about primaries.
:D what a sorry day this is.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:25 PM
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21. Barry Goldwater he ain't
McCain has dishonored the military.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:33 PM
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26. It is so bad now that I'd welcome Goldwater Reps into the fold!
THAT'S how bad it had gotten IMO. I love Ike and wish we would have followed his advice. At least Barry G. would have stood up to Bush/Cheney and their wargasms.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:25 PM
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22. Have they decided to drop it??
That is the only compromise the people will tolerate
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 03:35 PM
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23. Torturing was a wedge issue
gone awry. I was watching on of the Sun morning news shows and someone mention that * may have brought up the torture issue to paint Dems as soft on terra, because there is no way Dems would support what he was doing. But think about it, why would * declassify classified info on the CIA gulags right before mid-term elections.

The so called mavericks are now realigned with the program as things should be and things are alright with the world.:sarcasm:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:29 PM
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25. Bush knows he needs to have this geneva thing to fade away FAST!
Too negative and too little time before elections - McCain operating with eye dead on 2008 election = George, let's be friends!
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