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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:31 AM
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US federal judge declares boating illegal in all US navigable waters

http://www.ibinews.com/ibinews/newsdesk/20060814154923ibinews.html


In a rather bizarre ruling that has marine industry officials worried, Judge Robert G. James of the United States District Court, Western Division of Louisiana, has said that it is criminal trespass for the American boating public to boat, fish, or hunt on the Mississippi River and other navigable waters in the US.

In the case of Normal Parm v. Sheriff Mark Shumate, James ruled that federal law grants exclusive and private control over the waters of the river, outside the main shipping channel, to riparian landowners. The shallows of the navigable waters are no longer open to the public. That, in effect, makes boating illegal across most of the country.

"Even though this action seems like a horrible pre-April fools joke, it is very serious," said Phil Keeter, MRAA president, in a statement. "Because essentially all the waters and waterways of our country are considered navigable in the US law, this ruling declares recreational boating, water skiing, fishing, waterfowl hunting, and fishing tournaments to be illegal and the public subject to jail sentences for recreating with their families."

Last month, James rejected the findings of the Magistrate judge who found earlier that the American public had the right under federal law and Louisiana law to navigate, boat, fish, and hunt on the waters of the Mississippi river up to the normal high water line of the river. Judge James Kirk relied on the long established federal principles of navigation that recognized the public navigational rights "…entitles the public to the reasonable use of navigable waters for all legitimate purposes of travel or transportation, for boating, sailing for pleasure, as well as for carrying persons or property for hire, and in any kind of watercraft the use of which is consistent with others also enjoying the right possessed in common."

"MRAA is working with the Coast Guard, state boating law administrators, and NMMA to fight this onerous ruling," said Glen Mazzella, MRAA chairman, in the statement
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what's next - only commercial trucks can be on interstates
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:42 AM
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1. I don't believe it
I read on another blog that this only had to do with a lake which was surrounded by private owners. When the level of the nearby level went above flood stage it was possible to boat from the river to the lake. The question was whether the lake was still private property.

Navigable waters have always generally been public and non-navigable waters generally belong to private owners.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:56 AM
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2. that's not what the article says
nt
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:03 PM
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3. Dubya Bush Legal Appointee?
Is this judge a Dubya Bush legal appointee, one with particularly extremist views on property rights?

Such a ruling ought to bite recreational boaters who voted for Gee Dubya in their arses.
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Taoschick Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:22 PM
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8. Nope
He was nominated January 27, 1998.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:08 PM
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4. This has been debunked six ways to Sunday.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:12 PM
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5. I posted this already this AM thread includes actual court ruling
It's probably on page two by now
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:17 PM
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6. kick it back to pg. one so more people can read it
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:21 PM
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7. Just another democrat hatin' on the boaters. nt
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:55 PM
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9. Okay, let the private owners of the Mississippi
pay for the privatized annual dredging that costs taxpayers billions of dollars ...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 09:56 AM
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10. "All your navigable waterways are belong to us." - Republicon Cronies
"What, you have no land? Only scumbag terrorist boaters have no land. Off to the gulag with you for a couple of months of torture." - George AWOL BushCo and rich land-owning republicon cronies
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