Where are our Democratic Leaders?

[Roxy66]

The only Democratic leader I have seen on T.V. as of late is Presedent Clinton. But where the hell are all of our Law makers!!? The other day I was watching MSNBC and they had a Repug on and a Dem Senator (I cant remember who...not prominent though). When the anchor introduced the Dem, she asked him why it was so hard to find a Democratic Senator to come on to state their side and all he said was he was there and could not answer to why no one else would come on. I mean, what the hell is going on and how the hell do they expect to get their message out if they are too afraid to go on National t.v. and stand up to these thugs!!!!!> I am so sick of this shit!! Sorry for the rant, but, this is insane!! :mad: :banghead: :rant:


O.K....I'm better now.

[ClassWarrior]

1. "Hard to find a Democratic Senator to come on??"

:rofl:

The Corporate Media are yanking your chain.

NGU.

[Roxy66]

5. Fine...yes the media sucks...but he had no answer for her ..

He didnt say...."What are you taking about? There are plenty of Senators that wanted to come on...who did you ask"? He should have taken them to task if it wasnt true.

[ClassWarrior]

6. They never ask the ones coherent enough to answer their lies.

You should realize that by now.

NGU.

[dkofos]

45. How, or better yet why are these incoherent Politicians

being elected and reelected??

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

2. Better Response might have been

"Strange, I know many Democrats who would love a chance to break the media stranglehold on our message. Why don't you give me a list of who all you have invited and declined and I'll be SURE to speak with them and find out a reason? Perhaps you have a few names for me at this moment?"

[OneBlueSky]

3. Democrats are afraid to take a stand on anything . . .

so they don't . . . they seem to live by the old saw that when you don't do anything, there's only one thing you can be criticized for: not doing anything . . .

[ClassWarrior]

9. Ahhh, the blame-the-Democrats-first mob is out in full force today.

NGU.

[Roxy66]

10. No...dont accuse me of such things...I just want to know why they are

not all all over the place right before the election....you cant tell me they cant find a single station that would put them on.

[ClassWarrior]

13. You hold up a "not prominent though" Senator as spokesperson for...

...the entire Party, and you can't even be bothered to remember HIS NAME? Give me a break. If this isn't just a self-destructive bitch-fest, why don't you offer a concrete plan for addressing this?

NGU.

[Roxy66]

15. Sorry if I'm not as articulate as you.... cant I ask an honest question?

Can you honestly say the Dems are doing all they can to get their message out? I have a feeling not. I thought this site was to have debate on how to improve our Party standing and to "Round Table" on how to best help our country. Please don't bash me for asking a question that I think is legitimate.

[ClassWarrior]

18. My point exactly.

This site IS to have debate on how to improve our Party standing and to "Round Table" on how to best help our country.

And, IMHO, that didn't start happening till post #12 below.

:shrug:

Just sayin...

NGU.

[blm]

22. It was Evan Bayh - and he's considered a prominent Dem in DC.

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[Roxy66]

27. No, it wasnt him...and I'm sorry I cant remember.

I just thought of it this morning in the shower and I've been trying to remember all morning. I can see his face....just...cant ...remember..:dilemma:

[blm]

28. Bayh was also on, though. Jack Reed, perhaps?

He's been popping up on military issues.

[Roxy66]

30. Yes..I think it was him and, yes he is prominent. Thanks n/t

[Raffi Ella]

32. yeah,

I've noticed that today too.It is sad and scary how incredibly easy it is for the MSM nooz to get the public to echo back any mantra they put out there.

I understand people who are new to DU not realizing that media is corporately bought and paid for but DU regulars singing the "Dems have No Plan" sentiment...?It's disheartening at best.

[Roxy66]

39. Yes, at some point they need to step and take a stand

....we cant blame the media forever

[Dr.Phool]

4. Isn't that considered an oxymoron?

Democratic Leaders?

Military Intelligence, Jumbo Shrimp?

[Roxy66]

7. it's starting to seem that way n/t

[Roxy66]

8. Where are our Leaders on the Torture issue?....

They should be yelling and screamming at this point!!

[Mandate My Ass]

11. Keeping their powder dry

WASHINGTON - Congressional Democrats are sitting out an explosive debate on how to treat the nation's most dangerous terrorism suspects, bypassing a chance to challenge President Bush on a proposal that has infuriated international law experts and human rights groups.

The reasons are fraught with politics: They don't have to join in, and they could regret it if they did...

Influencing their strategy are memories of the 2002 defeat of Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga., who was ousted by Republican Saxby Chambliss following a TV ad campaign that attacked Cleland's patriotism. Cleland, a severely wounded Vietnam veteran, had voted against creating the Homeland Security Department.


http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/28-09212006-716038.html

Let's let the Republicans once again frame the debate so that anybody who speaks out against torture is labeled unpatriotic. :eyes:

[blm]

23. When Kerry did just that in two speeches over the last two weeks, few in

the media even reported it. I suppose if his hairdresser raised his price from 75 bucks to 85 bucks for a haircut we'd have heard about it.

[bigtree]

12. That's a load. They don't make the decisions on who gets airplay

That criticism is a weak and undeserved slap at our party leaders who have been actively engaging this administration's every utterance and action. If you can't find their efforts you're not looking too closely. I've highlighted many of them here as have others. You need to bother to look in on their efforts by pulling up the leadership sites and helping to dissiminate their initiatives and actions to the wider media. It's OUR party, It's OUR country. If we want the media to pay attention to those who intend to lead us, we have to challenge them to do so every day.

Here's a good place to start:

DUERS FIVE-STAR ACTIVISTS' RESOURCE THREAD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x8816


Here are some sources for Democrat's efforts:

US Senator Harry Reid for Nevada
http://reid.senate.gov/

Democrats.senate.gov - Senator Harry Reid, Democratic Leader
http://democrats.senate.gov/

Official web site for Representative Nancy Pelosi (D - CA).
http://www.house.gov/pelosi/

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
http://www.democraticleader.house.gov/

U.S. Newswire Current Headlines
http://releases.usnewswire.com/default.asp

NewsNow (Use Auto-Updating Headline Search and NewsFeeds, including Politics, Military, etc.)
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/

[Roxy66]

14. I know they are speaking out....but most in this country get their news

from sound bites and news shows. I watch C-Span religiously, read "The Hill", read blogs, etc..... But the general public does not put that much effort into finding out what we stand for. I want to see them on the "Today Show", GMA (even though I wont watch ABC anymore), CBS Morning show, even Larry King.

[ClassWarrior]

16. I believe it's MoveOn that has a media activism list.

I'll find the details and post them here later. They target lack-of-balance in the Corporate Media. You should join and help.

NGU.

[bigtree]

19. use the resources provided

get more involved in spreading the information

[Nimrod2005]

25. Then can call a press conference, stand together, & present their fucking

ideas...It is that simple.

[ClassWarrior]

26. They do. Often. Usually only C-SPAN cameras show.

NGU.

[bigtree]

40. They (fucking) do that all the time

Nimrods refuse to acknowledge that? Whose fault is it when folks are uninformed about the constant and current activities of their own party? Is our ONLY responsibility just showing up to vote? Or is there more WE could be doing to promote the efforts of our party?

[Roxy66]

41. It's interesting how Rangel got mass coverage for defending Bush

I just wonder why they aren't calling these press conferences daily to denounce Bush(harshley...with startling words...and don't tell me the media wouldn't play it over and over if the Dems REALLY went after Bush)

[Roxy66]

43. At some point we need to USE the media!!

[Wiley50]

17. Short Answer: The strong ones don't get on Corporate TV

It's all propoganda, all the time.

They do put the weak ones on
just so they can slap them down

Every now and then they misjudge
and who they thought were weak
says something strong

But very rarely

[opihimoimoi]

20. Flaming our Dem Leaders at this time is counter productive....

see #12.

We should be looking for ways to bond, gather, and focus. Our adversaries are to the Right.

[oasis]

21. Try looking for leadership at your local Democratic precinct. Maybe YOU

can get busy doing something.;-)

[opihimoimoi]

29. Hey there Regg

Sup Guy?

The Local Level is where the action is. This is where your imput is of most import.

Look at things from all perspectives...be objective...

Look for the Best and strive toward it...

The Dem Party is a coalition of Good Ideas as opposed to the Pubs. Look to the Big Picture

[oasis]

34. Hey Opi

:hi:

With his 50 state strategy, Howard Dean got the local Dem machines up and working. That's how Chimpy's plan to privatize social security was defeated. In the trenches, where the action is.

Democrats must get to work at the local level and not wait for some guru on the teevee to tell them what to do.

BTW, I'm still on the mainland. I'll get back to you on the Case/Akaka situation.

Aloha for now.

[opihimoimoi]

37. Yo, Message rec'd ......ovah n out

Is that Sulfer I smell........? Yikes!!!!

[Nimrod2005]

24. See this post from earlier today...We need to lobby them!!!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2838731&mesg_id=2838731

[wiggs]

31. I'll tell you what...this torture/detention issue should be a frick'n

EMERGENCY and we should be hearing from dc dems every day....because RIGHT NOW someone is being tortured in your name. They are not only on the right side of the issue, but there should be a sense of urgency here that would demonstrate our humanity, our difference with GOP, and that dems take a stance.

This issue is completely worthy of Rule 21 invocation, of filing injunctions, of organizing marches, of standing on the floor of congress and screaming...whatever. This is an emergency and I hope any congressman who sleeps well at night but doesn't champion humane treatment of others gives this another thought.

Their relative passivity (relative to its importance) is disturbing.

[Roxy66]

33. Do they really think not speaking out and letting the GOP fight it out

is actally effective?

[wiggs]

36. ...or moral? nt

[Generator]

35. If you don't know where they are you don't have them

It's pretty simple.

[Roxy66]

38. This conversation is very relevent to this thread....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2191654

Thanks BattyDem

[Roxy66]

42. I bet K.O. would put them on "Countdown" in a second!!!

He has had a few on, but they could probably be on nightly. They need to use the resources they have when they can!!

[ProfessorGAC]

44. "Our Leaders"????

What is the deal with this? First Skinner. Then you. I've seen about all of this "our leaders" stuff on DU as i want to.

Liberals do NOT need "leaders". We do our own thinking. We need REPRESENTATIVES who will carry out a vision consistent with the needs and wants of the people.

Is everyone here going "Borg"?
The Professor

[Roxy66]

46. Yes....We elect them to speak for us!! They need to SPEAK!!

[ProfessorGAC]

47. That Isn't The Same As Calling Them "Our Leaders"

I agree with the need for them to speak up. I want them to get a bullhorn and climb to the top of the capitol bldg. steps and scream it. But, that doesn't mean they lead me anywhere.

It seems to "Bushbottish" to call them "our leaders". Party leadership, ok. "Our leaders" gives me the creeps.
The Professor

[Roxy66]

48. Call them what you want.....But, they can effect the electorate

and they are not grabbing the Bullhorn and screaming at the top of their lungs, but somehow they find a Bullhorn to scold Chavez ( of which whom I could care less about), but they cant find the Bullhorn to go after these thugs. If they use provocative language they will get the medias attention...they just need to stop being cowards and do it!!

[ProfessorGAC]

49. We Agree!

They are not doing enough. We concur completely.
The Professor

[Roxy66]

50. Anybody else watching C-Span now? Callers are pissed...

People calling in about all the corruption in the Administration.....We need to act now!!