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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:36 AM
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FACT: Majority of Iraqi Resistance is Sunni not "Foreign Terrorists"!
and 3/4 of Sunni Iraqis support them. This is a must read for members of congress who swallow whole the nonsense that bush spews daily about "Iraq being the central front in the War on Terra"!

http://www.juancole.com/

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The US Department of Defense has done some opinion polling that indicates that 3/4s of Iraqi Sunnis now support what the Pentagon calls the "insurgency". When the DoD started doing polling on the subject in 2003, they found that 14 percent of Sunni Arabs supported the insurgency. If there are 5 million Sunni Arabs, let us say that 1.5 million are less than 15 years of age. Of the 3.5 million left, half are women and less likely to actually engage in violence, though they might offer support for it. So that is 1.75 million men. At 75%, that is 1.3 million male supporters of the guerrilla movement.

Of the 147,000 US troops in Iraq, a very large number of which now seem to be in and around Baghdad itself, I don't know exactly how many are fighters. The traditional rule of thumb is 10%, but I read somewhere that the percentage is much higher in this war. A reader who served over there challenged the latter assertion and said that no, it is just 10%.

If we really just have 14,700 fighters facing 1.3 million Sunni guerrilla supporters, it isn't any mystery why things in Iraq are as they are and why Gen. Casey openly admits that we are not there to win, just to keep a lid on. I can't imagine how they could hope even to keep a lid on. Given the figures released today, I'd say it isn't much of a lid (though remember that the death figures could easily be twice or ten times as bad.)

The other thing to remember is that the Sunni Arab areas have been under US military occupation for the past over 3 years, and that this vast increase in support for the guerrilla movement is therefore in some large part the fault of bad counter-insurgency tactics by the US military. They were all reading that stupid, racist tract, Raphael Patai's The Arab Mind, which says you can control Arabs by humiliating them. What Patai didn't tell them is that yes, you can for a short while, but then in order to recover his self-respect, the humiliated Arab has to spend the rest of his life trying to kill you, and so do his 5 brothers and 25 cousins.

(And so much for "we are fighting the terrorists there" BS!)....

Majority of insurgents in Iraq are Sunnis, not Jihdists

Abu Dhabi, Sept 21 (NNN-WAM) A sweeping majority of the insurgents in Iraq are waging the guerrilla war against the United States and allied forces to serve their interests on the domestic Iraqi scene, according to a major United Arab Emirates (UAE) daily.

They have no interest in pursuing an anti-US armed offensive outside Iraq, said the Sharjah-based Gulf Today.

"Most of them are Iraqi Sunnis who fear that their interests would be totally undermined by the Shiite-dominated government. They are seeking to realise concrete, local political goals and are not running a terrorism campaign against the US", said the paper in its Wednesday's editorial comment.

The paper expressed its hope the US would listen closely to the message that came from Monday's meeting in Jeddah attended by nine Middle Eastern countries. The worsening crisis in Iraq, the paper notes, does not bode well for the region because Iraqi sectarian and ethnic tensions could spill over the country's neighbours.

http://www.indianmuslims.info/news/2006/september/21/muslim_world_news/majority_of_insurgents_in_iraq_are_sunnis_not_jihdists_uae_daily.html

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:58 AM
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1. Thank you. We keep ignoring the numbers which are overwhelming.
The only way to hold the Middle East is to mass murder millions AND IT STILL WON'T WORK. Because, once we've beggared ourselves clearing the land of population, China, India, the European Union, Russia or any combination thereof will rush in as saviors and take it over. And they WILL get the flowers. Because after us, anything will be an improvement.

But we will NEVER be allowed to control that oil.

So maybe we should think about getting out and getting home.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:01 AM
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2. and spending the hundreds of billions
on renewable energy!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:06 AM
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3. Thanks for this
We know but lies need to be debunked.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:06 AM
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4. What, you are seriously telling me that people in America are told that
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 06:07 AM by Random_Australian
the Iraqi resistance is mainly from foreign forces?

:wtf:

What next? Finding WMD? Insurgents building a Death Star?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:37 AM
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5. apparently
you have been lucky enough to have missed the chimperor's latest terror speeches. He is trying for Iraq War justification # 2701 by linking the US occupation to "The War on Terror". He repeats ad nauseum: "We are fighting the terrorists there so we won't have to fight them here" and "Iraq is the central front in the war on terror"! And believe it or not. our congress people repeat it as well! Pretty scary eh?
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:45 AM
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6. Yes, I was lucky enough to miss Pretzledent's latest.
And pretty much all of the ones previous. (Except what I hear on DU)

I mean, did you hear John Howard's latest speech? (Well, I didn't either, but nobody cares about him. This is Australia after all - respect for authority figures just does not mesh)

What I was really suprised by though was the idea that the resistance in Iraq was done by terrorists who where not from Iraq rather than the locals who are pissed at bieng shot at.

So, did I misread, or do people really say that? (Please don't post more McChimpy quotes - I have no fucking idea what he is saying)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 08:05 AM
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7. our congress people really say that
it is indeed mind boggling. Of course our fox news readers repeat it as well. And yes a small proportion of the population (bushbots) believe it.

I have not listened to Howard since the chimp insulted him the last time he was here. They both are disgustng.
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