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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:25 AM
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Able Danger report to be released in a few days

Pentagon to release report on September 11 claims

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon's inspector general will release a report in the coming days that is expected to refute claims that an Army intelligence unit had information that could have thwarted the September 11 attacks, officials said on Wednesday. snip

Former members of the data-mining unit code-named Able Danger and their Republican champion in Congress, Rep. Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, have maintained for over a year that Able Danger uncovered intelligence on September 11 mastermind Mohamed Atta and others in 2000 that should have been a tip-off of the attacks. snip

Two officials familiar with the contents of the report said it substantially undermines claims put forward by Weldon and former Able Danger members. snip

But an earlier exhaustive Pentagon search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to the operation failed to corroborate the claims.

Officials with House and Senate intelligence oversight committees have also said there is little substantiating evidence.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:37 AM
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1. a rethuglican fabricating information????
who woulda thunk it?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:00 AM
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2. Here is a Curt Weldon quote for future reference
With the exception of the New York Times, Fox news, and Lou Dobbs of CNN, and talk radio, the rest of the mainstream media has basically been silenced like a bunch of dumb monkeys.

Curt Weldon
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 02:48 AM
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3. So, 9/11 could have been prevented, eh? Pentagon response: nuh-uh!
Basic schoolyard fighting. Pathetic really.

It's possible that our Congress is actually worse than our President.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 10:40 AM
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4. Man, I can remember when Able Danger threads were real popular
I wonder what happened?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:10 PM
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5. NSA Whistle-blower Says He Has Lost His Livelihood
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 12:19 PM by seemslikeadream

NSA Whistle-blower Says He Has Lost His Livelihood
September 21, 2006 11:16 AM

Vic Walter and Krista Kjellman Report:

NSA whistle-blower Russell Tice says his choice to reveal what he says were unlawful acts at the National Security Agency while he was working there "has cost me my career and livelihood."

In a letter to Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), Chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services, Tice asks Duncan to "include real whistleblower protections to national security employees in the 2007 Defense Authorization Bill."

"My case, from beginning to end, is a testament to the utter and complete failure of whistle-blower protections for federal employees that work within the most crucial aspects of national security," Tice writes.

Tice, a former NSA intelligence officer, told ABC News this past January in a Nightline report that he saw unlawful and unconstitutional acts at the NSA while working there. He said the number of Americans subject to eavesdropping by the NSA could be in the millions if the programs used by the agency were employed to their full capacity.
Rep. Christopher Shays, a Connecticut Republican and chairman of the
national security subcommittee that held the hearing, told Provance: "It
takes a tremendous amount of courage for someone of your rank to tell a
general what they may not want to hear."

Asked what his current military duties are, the former computer specialist
replied," The only thing I've been doing since being demoted is picking up
trash and pulling guard duty."

Russell Tice, a former National Security Agency analyst who was a New York
Times source for its reporting on domestic wiretapping, told of having been
classified as mentally ill and then fired in connection with an earlier
episode at the espionage agency.

Tice said he would have to testify in closed hearings about the details of
the eavesdropping program, which President Bush authorized soon after the
Sept. 11 attacks. But under questioning by lawmakers, Tice suggested that
other NSA programs also raised concerns for him.

"Some of the programs that I worked on I believe treaded on illegalities
and, I believe, unconstitutional activity," Tice said.

In one of the hearing's most dramatic moments, Tice read aloud the Fourth
Amendment of the Constitution, which protects Americans against
"unreasonable searches and seizures" without a court warrant. Tice also read
an NSA policy that limits the signals agency to monitoring foreign

Published on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 by the Sacramento Bee (California)
National Security Whistle-Blowers Allege Retaliation
by James Rosen

WASHINGTON - Military and intelligence officers told spellbound lawmakers Tuesday that their careers had been ruined by superiors because they refused to lie about Able Danger, Abu Ghraib and other national security controversies.
Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, wearing a crisp olive Army uniform with the Bronze Star and other awards, delivered his first public testimony about his central role in Able Danger, a Pentagon computer data-mining program set up long before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to infiltrate the al-Qaeda terrorist network.

Shaffer told a House Government Reform subcommittee that he and other intelligence officers and contractors working on the top-secret program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Mohammed Atta, ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks, but were prevented from passing their findings to the FBI.

"I became a whistleblower not out of choice, but out of necessity," Shaffer said. "Many of us have a personal commitment to ... going forward to expose the truth and wrongdoing of government officials who - before and after the 9/11 attacks - failed to do their job."

Shaffer contradicted recent statements by Philip Zelikow, former executive director of the Sept. 11 commission, who denied having met with Shaffer and other Able Danger operatives in Afghanistan in October 2003.

"I did meet with him," Shaffer said. "I have the business card he gave me. I find it hard to believe that he could not remember meeting me."

The commission set up by Congress to probe the Sept. 11 attacks didn't mention the Able Danger project on al Qaeda in its final report in July 2004.

Curt Weldon maybe a wack job that doesn't mean Able Danger didn't exist

and no one in our government would ever lie to us, would they?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:21 PM
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6. just in case someone has no idea what ABLE DANGER is
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 12:22 PM by seemslikeadream
It is WAY more than Curt Weldon





DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.


Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking

Able Danger: Short Time-line

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?

Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005

Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing

Condi in Middle of Able Danger Cover Up"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger will shake the country to its roots."


If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Spans Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? Thats the big question right now, we have to ask that. I dont know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, Im a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger. Thats what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, Im talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.

Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader

Specter Wants Answers About 'Able Danger'

NYT/Reuters: Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist

NOW - ON CAPITOL HILL - Able Danger Inquiry CSPAN3 9:30am et

Able Danger ties Condi Rice to Chinese espionage! (really!)

VIDEO-the Senate Judicial Committee ABLE DANGER saga ?

Official: (Curt Weldon) Attack on Cole foreseen (ABLE DANGER)

New 9/11 Timeline update, with new Able Danger page ?

Weldon seeks Defense testimony on al-Qaida

Weldon rips 9/11 commission over intelligence failures

General gave OK for Able Danger (confirms al-Qaida mission prior to 9/11)

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:24 PM
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7. Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow
Yea believe them, two very trust worthy individuals Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 12:31 PM
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8. The "Able Danger" story is a myth...
It all originated with some jackass associate of Manucher Ghorbanifar. It is a GOP/MIX ploy to get the Clinton Adminstration blamed for 9/11 and to tie Iran with Bin Laden.

"June 8, 2005

In his new book, Countdown to Terror, Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA), the vice chairman of the House Homeland Security and Armed Services Committees, accuses the CIA of dismissing an informant who he says has valuable information on Iran. Weldons source claims to have knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is in Iran and that Irans supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, ordered a terrorist assault on the US called the 12th Imam attack. But according to Bill Murray, a former CIA Station Chief in Paris who met with Weldons source on four occasions, the information provided by the informant was believed to have originated with Manucher Ghorbanifar, a known fabricator, familiar to the CIA since the 1980s (see December 9, 2001 and December 2003). Murray compares Ghorbanifar to Ahmed Chalabi, whose false claims about Iraqi WMD were fed to US intelligence, Congress, and the public during the lead-up to war with Iraq. "
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 01:03 PM
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Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.

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