Suppose we win control of Congress, and impeach Bush - what then?

[BushOut06]

Let's say that we manage to impeach Bush, and the Senate votes to convict. What then? It would the first time in American history that a sitting president had been forced out (Nixon left under threat of impeachment, but still left on his own). I honestly can't see Bush or Cheney stepping down. So what happens if Bush refuses to abdicate? What are the chances that he would issue some executive order declaring "emergency powers during time of war", and try to remain in office? I don't think the Founding Fathers ever envisioned a scenario in which this could happen.

[Horse with no Name]

1. I honestly think that we have other priorities other than

impeaching Bush. There are investigations that should take precedence.
I'd rather see some REALLY productive work done--like figuring out how to get our troops out of Iraq, repealing the Patriot Act, shutting down the Gulags, etc.

[BushOut06]

25. NONE of which will happen as long as BushCo remains in power

If we don't clean out the WH, none of the other things you mention are going to happen.

[Jack Rabbit]

2. That's why you impeach Cheney, too

If we can impeach Bush, we can impeach Cheney. He's guilty of many of the same high crimes and misdemeanors, such as lying about the threat posed by Iraq, the circumvention of the Geneva Conventions and the Convention against Torture and the Plame outing. In addition, Cheney shepherded the post-war reconstruction contracts for Halliburton, of which he was once CEO, through the procurement process on a non-competitive basis. That sounds like conflict of interest to me.

[serryjw]

7. ....and we have pResident Hastert??

Talk about a Constitutional crisis.

[Jack Rabbit]

8. No, we have President Pelosi

This isn't going to happen until the next Congress sits in January.

[serryjw]

12. Lets talk on November 8th

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3467

[Jack Rabbit]

15. Fine with me.

I don't know where this thing is headed, but if a Republican-controled Congress has been reluctant to investigate Bush up to now, there's no reason to think they will before the Democrats take control in January.

[serryjw]

18. Did YOU READ what I sent you?

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

19. Did you PM me?

I haven't received anything.

[serryjw]

20. READ the link under #12

n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

23. I am skeptical that will work for the Republicans this year

They may try, but they will fail.

That plan is doomed as long as the polls show that the Democrats are expected to win at least the House and possibly the Senate. Mr. Bush was reported to have enjoyed a bounce in the polls this week that evaporated as soon as Washington press whores reported it. It's back to Bush approval ratings in the mid-thirties and the Democrats hold a 15% lead over Republican in party preference for November. If we are still expecting that result by election day and suddenly and mysteriously we get something else, especially in Congressional districts where votes are counted by machines without a ballot-level paper trail, then we simply should not accept the result.

My response to your link in post 12 is this. And, no, I'm not kidding.

[mikelewis]

3. Sure they did... it's called the Declaration of Independence.

Before the Constitution, there was the Articles of Confederation which was an abysmal failure. That Government faltered and was replaced... if necessary, so can this one... though that is not a decision that should be made lightly. This Constitution is being tested... hopefully it can survive Bush.

[NNN0LHI]

4. We start work on cleaning out our own Democratic party

All turncoats and corrupt Democrats have got to go.

That will be job one for me.

Don

[Itchinjim]

5. Well the first thing I'M going to do is get happy drunk.

And then I'm going to sleep a lot better.

[rwenos]

6. What Happens if Georgie is Impeached? And Removed?

Iago becomes President.

[ThsMchneKilsFascists]

9. Iago's already defacto president

* is merely the mascot

[rwenos]

10. Agreed, But

if Iago were to take over, the tone would change. (I saw a production of Othello once in SF, done in modern dress -- Iago was a thin, bearded white guy who spent the whole play smoking thin cheroots and plotting in a quiet voice, alone on stage. VERY chilling.)

[Jack Rabbit]

17. See post number 2

We have plans for Iago.

I look down towards his feet; but that's a fable.
If that thou best a devil, I cannot kill thee.
--Othello, 5.2.282-83

[EST]

11. I, too, expect some last-ditch effort to rescue their dying

cabal. I've been expecting martial law and there have been several hints and pushes out ot the inner sanctum that broached the subject. While this was possible a year ago, I don't think it will be doable at this point.

The machinery, as regards key personnel, hs deteriorated to the point that they lack the coordination.

I doubt there will be an impeachment: just too much trouble for the return. Either house falling into democrat hands will be sufficient to stop * and his confederates, although not enough to reverse him on any large scale.

[rwenos]

13. Agreed - Streaming Subpoenas

Seems like the best strategy is for the Dem's, if they take the House (Hosanna!) string out the subpoenas, about two a week, cresting with impeachment voting in October 2007.

One can only fantasize . . . .

[EST]

24. Indeed, if handled correctly, the bush calamity could be used,

during the remainder of his term. to assure a veto proof majority in both houses and a real possibility of tuning the system such that the coup, pulled off by the publiklowns, would never again be possible, short of a national catastrophe.

I do like the "first one hundred hours" proposals of the democrats as opposed to the "hundred days" proposals from elsewhere. The country cannot continue as it is now.

[fed-up]

14. Remember Remember the Fifth of November

edited to add I just noticed this is my 1,000 post here on DU!

They had better leave peacefully when * and company are impeached. I am just so tired of being angry, disgusted, outraged at every horrendous deed this administration has done. I was really ticked tonight when gas went down to $2.59 here in CA. Such blatant manipulation, to do what win an election, distract from the fact that OUR GOVERNMENT wants to (retroactively) LEGALIZE TORTURE. I am soooooo, sooooo fed-up. anyway, back to our regular programing:

Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...


http://www.rhymes.org.uk/remember_remember_the_5th_november.htm
Remember Remember
the Fifth of November

Nursery Rhyme & History

Guy Fawkes & the Gunpowder Plot
Words of "Remember Remember" refer to Guy Fawkes with origins in 17th century English history. On the 5th November 1605 Guy Fawkes was caught in the cellars of the Houses of Parliament with several dozen barrels of gunpowder. Guy Fawkes was subsequently tried as a traitor with his co-conspirators for plotting against the government. He was tried by Judge Popham who came to London specifically for the trial from his country manor Littlecote House in Hungerford, Gloucestershire. Fawkes was sentenced to death and the form of the execution was one of the most horrendous ever practised (hung ,drawn and quartered) which reflected the serious nature of the crime of treason.

The Tradition begins...
The following year in 1606 it became an annual custom for the King and Parliament to commission a sermon to commemorate the event. Lancelot Andrewes delivered the first of many Gunpowder Plot Sermons. This practice, together with the nursery rhyme, ensured that this crime would never be forgotten! Hence the words " Remember , remember the 5th of November" The poem is sometimes referred to as 'Please to remember the fifth of November'. It serves as a warning to each new generation that treason will never be forgotten. In England the 5th of November is still commemorated each year with fireworks and bonfires culminating with the burning of effigies of Guy Fawkes (the guy). The 'guys' are made by children by filling old clothes with crumpled newspapers to look like a man. Tradition allows British children to display their 'guys' to passers-by and asking for " A penny for the guy".



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

The night is closely associated with the popular rhyme which begins:

Remember, remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I see no reason why the gunpowder treason
should ever be forgot.

The full rhyme, rarely used, continued:

Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes,
'twas his intent
to blow up the King and the Parliament.
Three score barrels of powder below,
Poor old England to overthrow:
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, make the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!
Hip hip hoorah!

These verses are usually left out of modern day recitations of the poem:

A penny loaf to feed the Pope.
A farthing o' cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A faggot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah!
Hip hip hoorah!

The rhyme was often started 'Please to remember the fifth of November'.

[Occulus]

16. War crimes trials. n/t

[samsingh]

21. he goes to jail, as do many other repugs

we turn to the world and ask for forgiveness for all the destruction these criminals and traitors have caused.

[berni_mccoy]

22. The ENTIRE ADMIN needs to be IMPEACHED and REPLACED; PELOSI becomes Pres

It will send an unprecendented message to the GOP and will ruin any chances of them regaining power in the near future. And remember, if Dems regain both houses, Pelosi will be speaker, NOT HASTERT. Pelosi would become the next President.